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98 SE SP 3.19 Mar 11, 2013 Rate Topic: ***** 1 Votes

#1161 User is offline   PROBLEMCHYLD 

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:22 PM

Well my father - in - law just bought a new IPAD. His wife has a IPOD.
I'm not sure if this is the way to go far as testing. It worth a shot.


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Posted 23 March 2012 - 05:31 PM

View Postmcv93us, on 21 March 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

Hello, look at the SP I noticed that the file jpegim32.flt is present in both Sp3.cab that Supp.cab,

I also found new versions of the following files:
ohci1394.sys from 4.90.3003.1 to 4.90.3004.1 (q284837) --> http://www.mdgx.com/files/ME284837.EXE
shdoclc.dll from 6.00.2800.1106 to 6.00.2800.1443 (q834158) --> http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q834158.EXE
and the QFE version of 2482017 (urlmon.dll from 6.00.2800.1662 to 6.00.2800.1663, wininet.dll from 6.00.2800.1662 to 6.00.2800.1663).

Think they'd be an interesting place in the SP also HOSTS file? (ex: MVPS HOSTS)
Thanks and see you soon.

Mcv'93
Because PROBLEMCHYLD makes all his components optional, I don't see any harm in adding another option for a host file.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 10:37 PM

In my opinion there is no point in adding a host file as it will become outdated and irrelevant in a very short time. This is a job for your virus checker or similar if you feel the need for one as the virus check is regularly updated.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 10:59 PM

And different people will have different hosts files they will prefer to use. It can also be changed easily once the system is installed, so putting it in the SP doesn't make sense to me.

Cheers and Regards

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 11:35 PM

View PostHu$tle, on 23 March 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

Because PROBLEMCHYLD makes all his components optional, I don't see any harm in adding another option for a host file.

View Postpjmelect, on 23 March 2012 - 10:37 PM, said:

In my opinion there is no point in adding a host file as it will become outdated and irrelevant in a very short time. This is a job for your virus checker or similar if you feel the need for one as the virus check is regularly updated.

View Postbphlpt, on 23 March 2012 - 10:59 PM, said:

And different people will have different hosts files they will prefer to use. It can also be changed easily once the system is installed, so putting it in the SP doesn't make sense to me.

Cheers and Regards
I will not add a host file.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 06:57 AM

Thank you all so very much... :yes:

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:25 PM

@PROBLEMCHYLD
I'm making an installer Administrative Office 2000 and found deficiencies relating to these items:


http://support.micro...kb/324628/en-us
http://support.micro....com/?id=324520

Apparently you need MDAC 2.8 which I think took away from SP3. If convenient might add ...

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 09:36 PM

View Postgerislamico, on 25 March 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

@PROBLEMCHYLD
I'm making an installer Administrative Office 2000 and found deficiencies relating to these items:


http://support.micro...kb/324628/en-us
http://support.micro....com/?id=324520

Apparently you need MDAC 2.8 which I think took away from SP3. If convenient might add ...
I don't use MS Office products on Win98, I use them on WinXP.
I can still add the core files from MDAC 2.8 SP1 + Unofficial updates.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:13 AM

@PROBLEMCHYLD
I was wrong. Updated my copy incorrectly, or that failed MDAC.
Firms Verify deigitales, order updates and the problems disappeared. regards

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:35 AM

View Postgerislamico, on 26 March 2012 - 08:13 AM, said:

@PROBLEMCHYLD
I was wrong. Updated my copy incorrectly, or that failed MDAC.
Firms Verify deigitales, order updates and the problems disappeared. regards
If anyone actually needs MDAC 2.8 SP1, I can add it later. I already have most of the files in place.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 06:54 AM

There a reliable way to add this menu to folders in Windows 98.
Customize Menu
Posted Image
(Whenever you implement Win98 am very unstable) :(

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 11:35 AM

View PostPROBLEMCHYLD, on 26 March 2012 - 09:35 AM, said:

If anyone actually needs MDAC 2.8 SP1, I can add it later. I already have most of the files in place.

Yes please :thumbup

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:28 PM

I like to thank all you guys who supported me in this endeavor. I could have not done it without all of you guys.
I decided not to add the KernelEX option due to lack of feedback. If I add the two options
Windows Image Acquisition 1.1 (WIA)
Microsoft Data Access Components 2.8 SP1
SP3 will be marked as FINAL! Unless you guys discover newer compatible files or MDGx releases new updates it will be FINAL!
I'll give you guys some time to come up with suggestions/improvements. I believe adding the two options above would make the pack complete. There will be nothing else to add because all compatible unofficial/official updates are included.

Here is a list of the files I didn't add
Unofficial Updates 

SETUPAPI.EXE
Windows Image Acquisition 1.1 (WIA)

Official Updates 

DirectX 9
Internet Explorer
Microsoft Data Access Components 2.8 SP1
NET Framework
Windows Media Player (WMP)


This post has been edited by PROBLEMCHYLD: 27 March 2012 - 01:29 PM


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Posted 27 March 2012 - 03:51 PM

Looks good to me!
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DirectX 9, Internet Explorer 6 SP1, .NET Framework 1 and 2 and Windows Media Player 9 are very large updates which would make the SP unwieldy IMO.
They are readily available elsewhere anyway.
If you add WIA and MDAC that will be pretty complete as regards the important official and unofficial update available for Windows 98SE.
If you go final and "lock" this version as the baseline for SP3, you can still then carry on developing and updating it, but under later version numbers.
Thanks as always for doing this for us.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:25 PM

Agreed with Dave-H. I'd still have some reservations in regard to KernelEx; it's quite unofficial alright, however since most recent software (browsers, primarily) wouldn't install/work under 9x even with latest updates in this Service Pack, it may be beneficial to include it, albeit in a separate section called 'Advanced' or 'Expert', if you want.

Thing is, KernelEx is not an application or utility, but an extension to the system core, namely the kernel; as such, it should be regarded as a core update. Admittedly, there may be occasional problems with certain applications, fine tuning may be required, but with proper documentation and under a well-defined section that appeals to advanced/bold users, it would be of much use for the future. And definitely would be easier for anyone to have an all-in-one package with options to select from, than to pick bits and pieces by hand, from different places.

To be honest, I myself wouldn't conceive a 9x system without Revolutions Pack either, as it makes it more eye-friendly. But I know there are minimalistic guys out there, there's guys that also disable themes in XP and that's fine, because having the option to [...] is most important.

Come to think about it, it might be an idea to build a modular Service Pack, so at download time, people could choose whether they want the Optional pack and/or Expert pack in addition to Basic/Core pack. Additional benefit would be that a subsequent update would alleviate the download bandwitdh usage when only one of the packs has been modified, as opposed to current 'compact' solution. But as I said, it's just an idea.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 11:42 PM

I think PROBLEMCHYLD made wise decisions about what not to include. :thumbup
In particular, I think that WIA (because it may break TWAIN) and .NET (because it may break windows search) are problematic packages, which must be handled with due care, and have no place in an update pack, at least until the known issues get sorted out.
However, if an "Advanced" optional section ends up being created, it should include both KernelEx and the Revolutions Pack. I'm one of those minimalists Drugwash just mentioned, and yet I do use RP (with themes disabled) because it helps a lot (or effectively solves) with the resource limitation, and adds the possibility of locking the taskbar and Tihiy's improved Task Manager, and I deem those three improvements very important for attaining the best possible 98SE experience.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 05:38 PM

Hello, I am happy that the SP has almost come to a final version.
Well I'd love to have a section ADVANCED, where to find the Revolution Pack and KernelEX. :thumbup

By the way, hop found other updates that I had missed last time:
Always QFE version of 2482017: inseng.dll from 6.00.2800.1662 to 6.00.2800.1663 and mshtml.dll from 6.00.2800.1662 to 6.00.2800.1663,
Also you may install the patch shdoclc.dll universal refresh link: http://www.mdgx.com/files/SHDOCFIX.ZIP

BTW, there is a reason why the Jpegim32.flt files should be present in both sp3.cab that supp.cab ? :blink:

Thanks,
Mcv'93

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:05 AM

I have a new update ready. It won't be on mediafire.
They want me to install that Bull$h!+ on my computer, and I aint doing it.
I shouldn't have to download something in order to upload.
What's wrong with people these days. They have something good then screw it up. I need a new reliable host.

This post has been edited by PROBLEMCHYLD: 29 March 2012 - 01:10 AM


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Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:42 AM

View PostPROBLEMCHYLD, on 29 March 2012 - 01:05 AM, said:

What's wrong with people these days. They have something good then screw it up. I need a new reliable host.

I've been using http://ge.tt recently and l'm very happy with it. Much faster than Mediafire and also very light & simple.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 04:42 AM

View PostPROBLEMCHYLD, on 29 March 2012 - 01:05 AM, said:

I have a new update ready. It won't be on mediafire.
They want me to install that Bull$h!+ on my computer, and I aint doing it.
I shouldn't have to download something in order to upload.
What's wrong with people these days. They have something good then screw it up. I need a new reliable host.
Sorry, but what are you talking about? I uploaded files there just a few days ago, and I've never had to install anything.

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