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Tricking WU think Messenger 4.7 is installed

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Just as my title says, Im trying to trick Windows Update think that Messenger 4.7 is installed, I want WU to show no updates available, but i do not want Messenger on my system, any ideas?

Edited by twizt3d, 12 December 2005 - 05:51 PM.



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I think it has already been posted that this cannot be done...

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Just hide it and save DataStore.edb to be copied during unattended setup. That should work.
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sorry for my stupidity, but could you be more clear on how to hide it lol?

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RyanVM's trademark is to be a bit cryptic so that you will have to do some reasearch on your own... That way you learn more...

I learned the same way that the file DataStore.edb in %SystemRoot%\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore stores the information of Windows / Microsoft -update. On a fresh install, run WU/MU once and HIDE whatever you want to hide and then immediatly close IE. Now grab DataStore.edb and place it in $OEM$\$$\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore.

PS. DataStore.edb will be IN USE by system after you run WU/MU and therefore you might have to boot to safe-mode to copy/replace it.

Next time you install win, it will remember the settings (this method also skips initial MU welcome process and default IE Tools>>Windows Update to microsoft update page (IF INSTALLED)).

Edited by BoardBabe, 23 December 2005 - 07:42 PM.

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wait a min, wouldnt runing wu again just over right that and say that its not installed?

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Uh, no?

Just try it and see for yourself, it works...
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by hide you mean install correct? So basically i install xpsp2 then go to wu and install windows messenger 4.7, restart in safe mode and copy the datastore file, then copy it into $OEM$\$$\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore, and when i install using my UACD messenger wont be installed but windows update will think it is. Did i get that correct? i guess the only way to find out is try, but please correct me if im wrong.

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arite well that didnt work, someone wanna clarify for me?

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He told you to hide it... not install it!
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again i ask, how do i hide something???

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Why are you guys making it so complicated? Just go to Windows Update then Hide the update in question and you won't be bothered anymore.

(only screenshot link I could find: http://support.gatew...09594su32.shtml)
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Uh, read the previous posts :P

@jcarle: The question is how to make it stick to the next format, so its still hidden. and its answered in the prev. posts.
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Cant you use an sfx to put the file there ?

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Sure you could use sfx, but why not just put it in $OEM$?
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Why are you guys making it so complicated? Just go to Windows Update then Hide the update in question and you won't be bothered anymore.

I reinstalled on 26 machines last night. I was my privilege to walk to each of them, open MU and choose custom install, and then hide six non-critical updates so that my students won't inadvertently install them "because they're there." Thank goodness all of the machines were in the same room. I've incorporated this routine in the past, but need to stay on top of it as the updates roll in. Lesson learned, the hard way. Lest we forget, the name of the game is unattended.
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If you have that many machines to maintain, you should be running Update Server which is free and you should be managing which updates they can install from the server. :)
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