[fumanchurocks]

I know that official support for WIN98SE will end from Microsoft after June 2006....So does anyone know if Microsoft will still allow you to download updates from their website? Just curious.

[Acheron]

Microsoft extended support will end on 30 june 2006.

After that all existing updates and information will be available for download for at least 1 year. I don't know about Windows Update.
However there will get no new critical updates released to patch vulnerabilities, and you can't acquire any hotfixes from Microsoft from that point.

[fumanchurocks]

Well, the reason I bring this issue up is mainly for IE 6.0. Now I know there are a few D/L out there where you can get this individually, but they weigh around 80MB. With what I install for IE 6.0 it D/L's about 14.5MB off the Windows Update. Also off a clean install and installing Gape's SE SP, there are a lot of Updates you need to D/L that are not included in Gape's SE SP:

IE 6 SP1
Cumlative Secuirty Update IE 6 SP1 (KB905915
Security Update for DX 9 (KB904706)
Security Update WMP 6.4 (Q320920)
Security Update Nov 20th 2001
Security Update Microsoft VM (816093)
Outlook Express 6
Cumlative Security Update Outlook Express 6 SP 1(KB837009)
Windows Address Book
Security Update WMP 9 (KB885492)

Here's how I do a fresh install for WIN98SE:

1. Install WIN98SE
2. Install IE 6.0 SP1
2. Install DX 9.0c
4. Install Device Drivers
5. Install MSOffice (version 2000)
6. Install SE SP 2.1a
7. Install Critical Updates
8. Install Add'l Windows and MSOffice Updates

[Acheron]

You can store alll these files on local HDD or CD-ROM. There is no reason to download those files over and over again

This post has been edited by hp38guser: 18 December 2005 - 04:54 PM

[fumanchurocks]

How? Where are these files stored? Please explain.....

[Petr]

fumanchurocks, on Dec 19 2005, 03:12 AM, said:

How? Where are these files stored? Please explain.....

These files are stored where you downloaded them :-)

Updates that are available via Windows Update only can be downloaded by using Windows Update Catalog

Full Internet Explorer 6.0 SP1 can be downloaded (you can choose the platform(s)) by the following command:

"ie6setup.exe" /c:"ie6wzd.exe /d /s:""#E"

(you have to download ie6setup.exe at first)

Is this all you need? Anything unclear?

Petr

[fumanchurocks]

Hello Petr,

Yes. It's a little unclear what you've described. Basically I would be looking to somehow install IE 6.0 SP1 w/o having to connect to the Windows Update site. I want to be able to install IE 6.0 SP1 off a CD like when I do a clean install of WIN98SE. I am aware of iesetup.exe, which is like 540k or something, but that still requires d/l off the internet. I have a dial-up connection, so it's kind of a pain in the a** to d/l around 14.5MB to install IE 6.0 SP1. Any advice helps! Thanks!

[Petr]

fumanchurocks, on Dec 19 2005, 07:06 PM, said:

Hello Petr,

Yes. It's a little unclear what you've described. Basically I would be looking to somehow install IE 6.0 SP1 w/o having to connect to the Windows Update site. I want to be able to install IE 6.0 SP1 off a CD like when I do a clean install of WIN98SE. I am aware of iesetup.exe, which is like 540k or something, but that still requires d/l off the internet. I have a dial-up connection, so it's kind of a pain in the a** to d/l around 14.5MB to install IE 6.0 SP1. Any advice helps! Thanks!

OK, so then you will just run the command

"ie6setup.exe" /c:"ie6wzd.exe /d /s:""#E"

All items needed for installation are then downloaded to the folder you will choose.
Then you can install IE just by running ie6setup locally, it will use the downloaded files and will need no connection to the Internet.

Petr

[fumanchurocks]

Hello Petr,

Ok, so I understand the command line "ie6setup.exe" /c:"ie6wzd.exe /d /s:""#E", but I still don't understand how a 481k file (ie6setup.exe) is going to install 14.5MB worth of IE 6.0 SP1 w/o having a connection to the internet. Now I've done a search in my windows directory and found a folder "Windows Update Setup Files", which contain zip files like IE_S1, IE_S2, IE_S3, etc. So, would I like have to copy this entire folder to a CD if I wanted to install IE 6.0 SP1 on a clean WIN98SE install w/o having to connect to the internet? Sorry if I seem stupid about this, but I do want to learn how this is done.

[Petr]

fumanchurocks, on Dec 19 2005, 07:32 PM, said:

Hello Petr,

Ok, so I understand the command line "ie6setup.exe" /c:"ie6wzd.exe /d /s:""#E", but I still don't understand how a 481k file (ie6setup.exe) is going to install 14.5MB worth of IE 6.0 SP1 w/o having a connection to the internet. Now I've done a search in my windows directory and found a folder "Windows Update Setup Files", which contain zip files like IE_S1, IE_S2, IE_S3, etc. So, would I like have to copy this entire folder to a CD if I wanted to install IE 6.0 SP1 on a clean WIN98SE install w/o having to connect to the internet? Sorry if I seem stupid about this, but I do want to learn how this is done.

This command line will download all necessary components, so next time ie6setup will use the already downloaded files and will not try to connect to the Internet. Yes, there will be files like IE_S1.CAB, IE_S2.CAB, IE_S3.CAB and many others. You can choose if you want to download files for Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows NT 4 or Windows 2000 or all of them.

I don't know what you have in the folder you have mentioned but it is possible that it already contains all necessary files - just try it.

Petr

[fumanchurocks]

Hello Petr,

I tried the command line "ie6setup.exe" /c:"ie6wzd.exe /d /s:""#E", but it doesn't work (I tried with and w/o the quote marks.) I've searched my HD for the ie6wzd.exe file, and I don't have it anywhere. ie6setup.exe is found in two places: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer & C:\Windows\Windows Update Setup Files. Please help.

[Petr]

fumanchurocks, on Dec 19 2005, 10:13 PM, said:

Hello Petr,

I tried the command line "ie6setup.exe" /c:"ie6wzd.exe /d /s:""#E", but it doesn't work (I tried with and w/o the quote marks.) I've searched my HD for the ie6wzd.exe file, and I don't have it anywhere. ie6setup.exe is found in two places: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer & C:\Windows\Windows Update Setup Files. Please help.

ie6wzd.exe is inside the ie6setup.exe file, it is OK.

What means "it doesn't work"? What is the error message?

Just to be sure that everything is correct. Please download the ie6setup.exe file from this location:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6...US/ie6setup.exe
to any folder, switch to this folder and type:
ie6setup.exe /c:"ie6wzd.exe /d /s:""#E"
The "Accept license should appear", then you have to enter the folder where the installation files should be downloaded, "C:\WINDOWS\Windows Update Setup Files" is the default, then you have to select the type of the system, for Windows 98 the size of all files is 19.3 MB, if you want to download installation files for all platforms, it will be about 46 MB.
Then you press next, and after short delay the download will begin.

If I remember correctly, all files in the destination folder will be erased prior the download.

Petr

[erpdude8]

hp38guser, on Dec 18 2005, 03:00 PM, said:

Microsoft extended support will end on 30 june 2006.

After that all existing updates and information will be available for download for at least 1 year. I don't know about Windows Update.
However there will get no new critical updates released to patch vulnerabilities, and you can't acquire any hotfixes from Microsoft from that point.

According to the Extended Support page on Windows 98 & ME posted here:
http://support.micro....com/gp/lifean1
any existing updates posted at Windows Update [WU] will be available through June 30, 2006.

so the WU site (including WU catalog) should work indefinitely for Win98 & ME, even past 6-30-2006.

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 20 December 2005 - 05:49 PM

[Petr]

erpdude8, on Dec 21 2005, 12:47 AM, said:

so the WU site (including WU catalog) should work indefinitely for Win98 & ME, even past 6-30-2006.

Maybe yes, maybe no.

Even at present many updates adversised by WU are missing on the WU server - just try to download all W98 updates from WU catalog and you will see long list of updates that were not possible to download.

Many downloads were cancelled by Microsoft already. IE 5.5 SP2 for example seems to be still available at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&displaylang=en
but in fact for other platforms than Windows Me it is available in Slovak and Slovenian only because there is no IE6 for those languages. Microsoft has achieved this limitation just by removing the first files from the download server (IE_S1.CAB, Iew2k_1.cab, Ient_s1.cab), all other files remained untouched.

Also some older patches are no longer available for download although the download pages still exist:

Try to download the following updates for IE 5.0:
http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/iebuil.../en/jsredir.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/iebuil...n/servredir.htm
Updates for IE4.01SP2 or for IE5.01 are still available, but for IE 5.0 (part of Windows 98 SE) not.
Nobody at Microsoft will repair these broken links.

So I'd very careful in thoughts what will be available from Microsoft and what not.

Petr

[Acheron]

I was wrong about downloading after june 30 2006. I assume Microsoft only keeps the documentation online. You better start downloading and backing up stuff now.

[CLASYS]

While I haven't tried to download IE 6.0 SP1 lately as I already have all of the relevant files, which I believe is MORE than 40-something MB, more like 55 MB, this is how I came by them:

Just obtain and run IE6setup.exe and run it from a 98SE system already up and running a lesser IE, such as 5.0 standard with the release.

You are given the option of supposedly obtaining a download-only of ALL of the files and the ability to specify an alternate download directory of your choice. While this sounds good, it's somewhat of a lie.

In actuality, you get about half of the available files you might need. Once you actually constructively install IE 6.0 SP1, you again run IE6setup.exe. Depending on the options you choose, you might get a message essentially asking if it has your permission to download additional files from an Internet download server of its choice. You should respond affirmatively and let it locate one from the list. However, I have never seen more than one such server, at least from North America, which is what it was choosing for me, etc.

In fact, you should choose ALL features of IE 6.0 SP1, so that ONLY ONCE you will get each and every file. Thus, in my case, this raised the downloaded files in my choice of directories from about 1/2 of the about 55 MB of files to just about all of them.

My numbers are slightly contaminated, because I also added on a few more by additionally taking the entire collection to other machines running XP pre-SP1 and WinME which causes a few more files to be requested.

Petr is effectively wrong on his guess about deleting the files, although I cannot vouch for expressly if this is because of the method he suggested being perhaps different from mine. In any case, doing it PRECISELY this way deletes none of the files you already have. Thus, the collection merely grew, never shrank, etc. About the only discrepancy between my collection and MS releases could perhaps be if NT4 or W2K needed any additional files, since I don't run these systems, etc.

So, limiting ourselves to obtaining any and all files you might ever need for IE 6.0 SP1 itself, just actually do the install of literally every option, and you will have all of the files you will ever need regardless of which options you might select in the future, etc. If you feel you have over-installed IE, just uninstall it and then reinstall choosing only the options you actually want. In any case, you have all the files to do a maximal install for the future.

I would suggest doing this NOW instead of waiting as indeed as others have suggested, sloppy support and the approaching end-of-life in June means that it's all downhill from here; indeed we may need to support each other in terms of supplying "missing" files, etc.

This is part of why I am one of the proponents of the Service Pack including support for IE 6.0 SP1. This would encourage a CD package for anyone needing the "whole thing" once MS starts letting us down even further than ever; remember, this entire forum is dedicated to doing what MS SHOULD have done, but never did! Clearly, the IE 6.0 SP1 problem represents a significent portion of the overall problem. If it were not for the efforts of Gape, Erp, MGDX and others [me too a little!], we might be far worse off than where we are today.

The collection of files need not be in any particular directory. If any files are needed from the Internet, they are just added on to the directory where IE6setup.exe was run from presently. If you get all of the files, it could be burned onto a CD, since effectively no additional downloads happen, thus no attempt to write out new files, etc.

cjl

[Petr]

CLASYS, on Dec 21 2005, 12:35 PM, said:

In actuality, you get about half of the available files you might need. Once you actually constructively install IE 6.0 SP1, you again run IE6setup.exe. Depending on the options you choose, you might get a message essentially asking if it has your permission to download additional files from an Internet download server of its choice. You should respond affirmatively and let it locate one from the list. However, I have never seen more than one such server, at least from North America, which is what it was choosing for me, etc.

In fact, you should choose ALL features of IE 6.0 SP1, so that ONLY ONCE you will get each and every file. Thus, in my case, this raised the downloaded files in my choice of directories from about 1/2 of the about 55 MB of files to just about all of them.

If you us the command described several posts before (ie6setup.exe /c:"ie6wzd.exe /d /s:""#E") you will have no choice to select any feature - just all files necessary for later installation will be downloaded.

It shall be noted that the current IE 6.0 SP1 available on the MS website is stripped down version, some components are no longer parts of the setup, like Microsoft VM, Direct Animation, Uniscribe, etc.

Petr

[CLASYS]

Since this thread is about IE 6, I don't expect anyone to object to a further discussion of the updates beyond the basic installation. [This does not mean that I in any way acknowledge the right of others to either obstruct or object to this discussion in other threads merely because RECENTLY it wasn't being done while HISTORICALLY it was.].

There apparenly are some misconceptions about the updates to IE 6.0 SP1. Attempting to add order to the chaos already here:

1) Some of the updates in this thread are technically not part of IE. You certainly can update DirectX for example, but merely independently of IE version or update level.

2) There are more updates than posted so far. Since I have been virtually unavailable for 98SE subjects since this last summer, and only recently have precious little time now, I am speaking largely from the vantage point of what was available as of July or August 2005. However, apparently there is at least one recent update, perhaps more. It would be helpful to me personally, perhaps others, if someone can post on this thread ANY AND ALL updates available since say April or May, 2005. I can then compile a more authoritative list of "all" of the updates.

3) It is true that SOME of the updates are cumulative. It is a falsehood to claim that they ALL are. Given MS's clearly sloppy history, I will not accept without proof that even the claimed cumulative updates are actually cumulative unconditionally.

4) There are two main accumulations. One is for IE 6.0 SP1. The other is for the associated release of Outlook Express intertwined in the installation of IE 6.0 SP1. To repeat, I remain skeptical until reasonably proven wrong that these two separate cumulative streams are such that you merely need the latest of each of them to totally obsolete any and all previous ones connected to their respective accumulations. In any case, clearly one accumulation does not obsolete the other accumulation.

5) There are clearly additional updates not in any way related to the two accumulations. They generally are bug fixes while, at least in the case of the IE collection as opposed to the OE collection, the accumulation is concerned primarily with security updates.

6) Some of the updates, at least in the case of the accumulations, introduced bugs while attempting to fix security problems. While I don't remember the update numbers, I do remember the symptoms: If a specific security-oriented update was installed, some scroll-bar functionality was corrupted! This is quite counter-intuitive, as one would assume that scroll bars is a portion of the gui interface, not a security issue, yet it is true that installing that particular update broke part of the IE gui, etc. To my knowledge, a newer-still member of the IE accumulation remedied this problem. Thus, installing all of the updates in a reasonable order leaves you with net no newly introduced problems of this sort, AFAIK.

7) With the exception of -- I believe the number is KB870669 -- all updates to IE and/or OE will be indicated within Internet Explorer Help/About explicitly. Once you install IE 6.0 SP1, the updates indicated are merely SP1; Introducing these additional updates will show Qxxxxxx where xxxxxx is the KB article number of the applied update appended on the end of this display.

The updates that can accomplish this are any for either IE or OE. There are several additional points of interest:

#i) Q313829 is indicated if you apply the KB313829 SHELL32.DLL security patch after you install IE 6.0 SP1. The effects of this update are part of Gape's SP2.x package. But to get the indication in IE help/about you have to apply the actual MS update and this must be done AFTER installation of IE 6.0 SP1, as IE installs clear the list.

While it could be argued this is NOT an update to IE 6.0 SP1 or even OE 6, it none-the-less is genuine MS update behavior. I would argue that if the SP 2.x is updated to include IE 6.0 SP1 support which I strongly recommend in general, it would make sense to maintain this nomenclature to authentically install the update, etc.

#ii) Some versions of the SP in the past erroneously applied Q240308 to IE 6. The problem is that this update is NOT relevant to newer versions of IE, just IE 5.0 or so. These SP releases even applied the correct implementation of the help/about information! Hopefully, this is not currently the case with the latest 2.x which should bypass this update for IE 6.0 or IE 6.0 SP1.

#iii) KB870669 was created to counter the infamous "Russian" 0-day attack of June, 2003. It makes IE incompatible with certain proprietary MS applications involving I believe certain MS exchange server implementations, but prevents this deadly effect from happening again. For some reason it is considered an MDAC update, even though clearly it effects IE itself. It is NOT shown in IE Help/About, but does show up as an installed program in the control panel add/remove programs area.

This update should be added to any IE installation collection; Can someone confirm that the SP 2.x currently does implement the same results as 870669? To my knowledge, it is merely a registry patch underlying all of the overhead, etc.

8) In other parts of this forum, others have erroneously claimed that there NEVER is a need to reboot between updates if you are applying all of them, thus allowing a batching of all the updates followed by one final reboot. These claims are apparently based on theories, NOT actual experience.

I have ACTUAL experience with the updates and can confirm that there is some interaction that REQUIRES a reboot. To not reboot means that an update won't install since it checks to see if some previous update has finalized as a prerequisite for its own installation.

While I don't remember which updates interact negatively in this manner with which other updates, I have solved the problem, albeit crudely, with a toy batch file that in essence forces a reboot after EVERY update, thus ensuring this problem will never happen.

Installing every update will show up in IE help/about every update in the form of Qxxxxxx where xxxxxx is the number of the update for each and every one of them. Clearly there is no downside to installing all of the updates.

To do this manually, especially if rebooting after each as each update usually recommends, is admittedly tedious. My toy batch file is totally automated and unattended. It takes around an hour to self-install, mostly due to the numerous reboots. Due to a quirk of the freeware reboot program I chose, you have to reset the system time [not DATE!] after it has finished. I have to wait for system quiescence before forcing a reboot, and the program I chose has no function such as "wait 30 seconds before reboot" but instead has the function "reboot at exactly the stated time hh:mm:ss". Thus, the batch forces the time to just before the chosen time which gets the job done other than the need to reset the time after all has installed, etc.

[Note: I admit that IF you consider installing updates presumed to be obsoleted by other updates is superfluous AND this is actually correct AND you opt not to update the IE Help/About information with regards to the updates you opted out AND it turns out that the unique updates NOT associated with the cumulative updates don't interact negatively with the latest cumulative updates THEN it IS POSSIBLE you do not need to use something akin to my method. However, I certainly haven't done the research to prove any of this, and I am not even inclined to do so as I personally WANT all of the updates indicated; if for no other purpose, it shows just how patched up IE actually is! Additionally, I would suggest that those suggesting that I am DEFINITELY WRONG have NEVER even pondered the entire list of the updates ACTUALLY AVAILABLE, just the SUBSET they personally are aware of. In any case, any of these suggestions will PREVENT the indications of the updates being applied in IE Help/About as cumulative updates DO NOT indicate what they "replace" in any sense. Please note as a counterexample, when Windows XP was expecting a Service Pack 2 which was horribly late, MS released a rollup of all of the most critical then-current updates; This was clearly a "cumulative update" etc. However, in the case of this update, QFECHECK information for all of the contained updates appeared indistringuishably from installing the actual component updates separately. It even installed QFECHECK information about itself! Clearly this is the desired way to implement a cumulative update. However, in the case of these IE updates, this is NOT the way they install!]

9) Some of the updates interact negatively with 98lite. This is true of at least any of the relatively recent OE updates that are claimed as "cumulative". Apparently they DO accumulate the bad behaviour!

There is a surprisingly complicated remedy for this, but it will work:

a) Pick a shell choice for 98lite. Contrary to the documentation this will be the LAST time you elect to make this change as the consequences of further shell swap are the changes are tantamount to almost a complete reinstall being needed!

Initially chose SLEEK [V1] regardless of your choice. Install IE 6.0 SP1 as you wish. However, when asked to reboot do not. As of the current 98lite 4.7 and the 98lite 4.8 beta there is no built-in remedy for the problem, but the author, Shane Brooks, is working on a built-in fix. In the meantime, the following will suffice:

The installation places the file LOADWC.EXE in the \Windows\System directory. Obtain that file, preferably doing all of this before the actual installation from either a dry run or extract it from the IE .cab files, and perform a patch operation to the binary: [I use Norton Diskedit]

Search for the ASCII string "SHELL32.DLL" and patch three bytes to be instead "SHELL32.W98". This is in keeping with how 98lite makes "uncooperative" programs behave under SLEEK [V1] shell. This is the replacement LOADWC.EXE file.

Replace the LOADWC.EXE file just installed by the IE installation with the patched version. Then allow the reboot as in a normal installation.

The reboot will cause the installation to initialize all correct customizations and browser personalizations that were missing from all IE 6.0 installs that are reminiscent of the analogous install details of the IE 5.x era especially when installing on Windows 95. This is a sore point of the IE 6.0 installation because Windows 95 support was arbitrarily removed from IE 6.0 and following. In the process, this part of the installation was also lost! Thus, you get a "better" installation of IE 6.0 or IE 6.0 SP1 if you do it this way, etc.

Please note that if you install IE 6.0 or IE 6.0 SP1 under the CHUBBY or OVERWEIGHT shell in 98lite, you don't make the LOADWC.EXE file replacement, but you also won't get all of these nice "lost" update actions!

c) Now implement your chosen final shell choice [which could be SLEEK [V1] which is the current setting. the recommendation is to chose the shell swap even if to the same shell, etc.].

At this point, it is now necessary to TOTALLY reinstall IE 6.0 or IE 6.0 SP1. If the current shell is SLEEK [V1], you will again have to ensure that the LOADWC.EXE file is the "patched" one, since it could get corrupted by the IE install.

You must REPEATEDLY re-install IE, using the custom choice [as opposed to the "typical" installation] chosing any and all options you want, including those in bold which claim to indicate they are already installed. And of course if this is the SLEEK [V1] shell, replacing the LOADWC.EXE file, etc. This process MUST be repeated until the attempt to install produces a new installation message suggesting that you do not have to reinstall, but DOES give you the option to "reinstall all components" which you should in fact select. It is this installation that finally causes there to be no later corruption of OE caused by later installing the updates.

In the case of the 98SE 98lite SLEEK [V1] installation this will problably succeed on the second install. On Windows ME using CHUBBY, this could be as many as four times to install before the "reinstall all components" message finally appears. In 98SE, after the switch to CHUBBY it appears that two more reinstalls will suffice, not four.

At this point, the shell choice must be frozen. Attempts to install Q330994 or any of the newer cumulative OE updates will succeed. Not heeding this advice GUARANTEES that OE will be corrupted under 98lite unless perhaps SLEEK [V1] shell is avoided. [Note: I cannot guarantee this even works! I always chose the initial SLEEK [V1] shell choice to get the "best" IE installation, then usually swap to CHUBBY. I can vouch for the fact that anything less than this WILL in fact permanently corrupt OE 6 requiring starting all over again by going back to the SLEEK [V1] shell and proceeding as above. Also, once corrupted, a plain uninstall and reinstall will also not work, even if you chose CHUBBY; apparently the corruption can only be removed back at the SLEEK [V1[ shell choice, etc.]

Please note that 98lite greatly predates Q330994, thus this bad OE corruption wasn't seen for quite awhile. There is apparenty some form of .DLL file mixup caused by the Q330994 update itself [and all of the newer-still OE cumulative updates as well!] interacting with something done by 98lite that wasn't known to be harmful before the update release. At this point, the only known remedy is causing IE to believe it is being reinstalled over IE as opposed to a virgin install, thus all of the above became necessary, etc.]

For those faint of heart, I can provide a copy of the patched LOADWC.EXE for IE 6.0 SP1; it is only a matter of patching the three relevant bytes, etc.

10) Some people have objected to including support for IE 6.0 SP1 in the SP 2.x because it would make the download larger. This is simply not true, since the size of the updating scripts would be minimal. However, to avoid the problem, the updates should be made in an alternate package which could amount to a size comparable to the current overall SP! Thus, anyone wanting to NOT update IE is not penalized in any way, while those of us who want the updates just have to download some alternate .CAB file or something containing the rest of the IE-related files.

This notion could also extend to alternate versions of IE between IE 5.0 and IE 6.0 SP1 that are favored by some people. The scripts to install any associated IE updates would do little to change the final size of the service pack update binary file; the appropriate update file copied into the same directory as the SP installer would get the job done if opted for, etc.

cjl

[CLASYS]

Petr, on Dec 21 2005, 08:44 AM, said:

CLASYS, on Dec 21 2005, 12:35 PM, said:

In actuality, you get about half of the available files you might need. Once you actually constructively install IE 6.0 SP1, you again run IE6setup.exe. Depending on the options you choose, you might get a message essentially asking if it has your permission to download additional files from an Internet download server of its choice. You should respond affirmatively and let it locate one from the list. However, I have never seen more than one such server, at least from North America, which is what it was choosing for me, etc.

In fact, you should choose ALL features of IE 6.0 SP1, so that ONLY ONCE you will get each and every file. Thus, in my case, this raised the downloaded files in my choice of directories from about 1/2 of the about 55 MB of files to just about all of them.

If you us the command described several posts before (ie6setup.exe /c:"ie6wzd.exe /d /s:""#E") you will have no choice to select any feature - just all files necessary for later installation will be downloaded.

It shall be noted that the current IE 6.0 SP1 available on the MS website is stripped down version, some components are no longer parts of the setup, like Microsoft VM, Direct Animation, Uniscribe, etc.

Petr

The original definition within IE6setup.exe was to opt to download "all" of the files and not to install. If this is the command line version of that, then perhaps the same "lie" still applies?

The point is that what you formerly got when asking for a "full" download was essentially only all of what you needed for a medium-sized install, not much different from a "typical" install, etc. The rest of the files had to be post-downloaded only if needed because you invoked some additional option[s].

Thus, IE6setup.exe was NEVER prepared to get "all" of the files ultimately needed in every install scenario. Is this the current situation? Or perhaps it's a coincidence because you cannot ask for any options any more associated with the optional files no longer provided? I can't believe this is totally the case.

I suggest you try your method, then attempt to install from the download directory and invoke ALL of the options. This should prove whether additional files are still needed, changing the meaning of "all" to merely "some" etc.

cjl

[Petr]

CLASYS, on Dec 21 2005, 04:41 PM, said:

The original definition within IE6setup.exe was to opt to download "all" of the files and not to install. If this is the command line version of that, then perhaps the same "lie" still applies?

AFAIK it was true for older IE versions, not for IE6

Quote

The point is that what you formerly got when asking for a "full" download was essentially only all of what you needed for a medium-sized install, not much different from a "typical" install, etc. The rest of the files had to be post-downloaded only if needed because you invoked some additional option[s].

Thus, IE6setup.exe was NEVER prepared to get "all" of the files ultimately needed in every install scenario. Is this the current situation? Or perhaps it's a coincidence because you cannot ask for any options any more associated with the optional files no longer provided? I can't believe this is totally the case.

The above mentioned command line downloads all cabinets with exception of:

DirectAnimation
AXA.CAB
AXA3.CAB

Arabic/Hebrew/Japanese/Korean/Pan-European/Thai/Vietnamese/Chinese (Simplified)/Chinese (Traditional) Text Support
IELPKAR.CAB
IELPKIW.CAB
IELPKJA.CAB
IELPKKO.CAB
IELPKPE.CAB
IELPKTH.CAB
IELPKVI.CAB
IELPKZHC.CAB
IELPKZHT.CAB

Japan/Korean/Chinese (Simplified)/Chinese (Traditional) Text Input Support
JAAIME.CAB
KOAIME.CAB
SCAIME.CAB
TCAIME.CAB

Uniscribe
USP10.CAB

Windows Desktop Update for NT4
IE4SHLNT.CAB

Internet Explorer Administration Kit
IEAK6.EXE
IEAK6OPT.CAB

In the attachment is complete list of files.

IE6SP1 does not contain MS VM (Java), the cabinets for build 3805 are for download here:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownlo...AA289DAC0FA.CAB
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownlo...7F715960D22.CAB
Update to build 3810
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownlo...2a04af2b34d.exe

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