[onelovekir]

anybody?..... i really dont want to use a wga fix or anything like that cuz i did pay for this and i would like to be genuine on my own. please can somebody help.... thanks

[Bezalel]

onelovekir, on Sep 17 2007, 01:18 AM, said:

meaning a backup copy of Media Center but its not the original recovery disk from dell

Do you mean you have a copy of the generic CD set?

If so you can use the key on the sticker and use Phone Activation method. If you want to use the OEMBIOS method you will have to find a SLP key somewhere else.

[onelovekir]

yeah its the generic 2 cd set from MSDN and it didnt accept my key from my cpu. so what SLP key will work for MCE so i can do an unattended or even not an unattended install? how can i reactivate my software through phone activation if its already activated with the non-genuine key?

[ZaForD]

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yeah its the generic 2 cd set from MSDN and it didnt accept my key from my cpu.

MSDN disks use a Retail CD key, which is why the one on the COA won't work.

You'll need to use an OEM disk set to use the COA key or a SLP key.
But if you use the COA key you'll still have to phone MS to activated your PC, as they don't activate online anymore.

This post has been edited by ZaForD: 18 September 2007 - 10:33 AM

[onelovekir]

oh man.... thats what i was afraid of.... i guess i will call now. that sucks cuz i usually do a clean install on my computer about 2 or 3 times a year. thnx anyways

[dagon]

this is an interesting topic

ive read through most of the 8 pages and pretty much understand what the purpose and point to all of this is.. but i honestly don't recall after going through the 8 pages if this question/thought is answered (ive been at work all night, and have been drinking some very alcoholic beverages since i came home, so i dont recall too much of what ive read) :

what is the purpose or significance of needing or the requirement to have a "holographic" CD from the factory? if using this method produces four required files (not including the winnt.sif here, only the oembios.* files) could these files be used in a generic OEM cd to essentially recreate the pre-activated installation? by "generic" i mean an ISO created from one of the forementioned 9 in 1 or 11 in 1 "warez" internet releases.

are there other modified files on the factory cd that are required to make use of this function that would not/may not be present on a generic cd?

i only ask this out of educational interest and not because i am trying to anything "illegal". i have a brand spanking new Dell system that has come with an XP reinstall CD, but i have not used it nor do i know if it "restores" the activation or if it is a straight XP install disc that I would have to use my COA key on or if it is built in with the SLP key.

i had already started to test the "9in1" OEM ISO with these oembios.* files when I got to the page in the thread that said it would not work in a virtual machine since the VM's bios would not match. I dont want to waste CDR's and my already-activated system by testing to see if the 9in1 OEM would work or not.. don't ask me why I didn't just make an ISO of the restore cd, there's no answer for that... i just didnt.

as i write this lengthy post, i'm testing this method on my Toshiba laptop using the oembios.* files from it and the SLP key to see if it comes out pre-activated or not.


second question

how does using this method differ or how is it different than the "OEMScan - Automated Multi Manufacture Pre-Activation Utility" thread? or does it not differ?

from the sound of it both methods get the SLP key, and create the oembios.* files... is this correct?

Ultimately what I want to accomplish is to be able to create a custom install CD using nLite/etc that is already activated--which normally would not be possible unless you started with a VLK source/key--on my laptop (which legit coa, slp, etc) and my Dell desktop (ditto on the legit). I have a restore cd for the Toshiba that restores it to factory, including the activation, but also including all the junk software. And as I said, I'm not sure what the Dell restore CD is... if it's just a straight XP install of it its an actual "restore" cd..

Sorry for the long winded post, I tend to blab on and on when I've been drinking.

Thanks.


-- Edit

The Toshiba reinstall using the generic OEM cd is not accepting the SLP key. Dont know if I did something wrong or not (and ive wasted a cdr on this). Looking at the Toshiba restore CD its a ghost image so it would not be easy to work with.

This post has been edited by dagon: 19 September 2007 - 08:28 AM

[Bezalel]

dagon, on Sep 19 2007, 10:13 AM, said:

what is the purpose or significance of needing or the requirement to have a "holographic" CD from the factory? if using this method produces four required files (not including the winnt.sif here, only the oembios.* files) could these files be used in a generic OEM cd to essentially recreate the pre-activated installation? by "generic" i mean an ISO created from one of the forementioned 9 in 1 or 11 in 1 "warez" internet releases.

The Hologram CD ensures that you have the rest of the required files and that everyone is starting with the same files. Starting with a different source may or may not work. (Also warez distibutions cannot be discussed on this forum and they often have other illegal cracks that may interfere with the procedure)

dagon, on Sep 19 2007, 10:13 AM, said:

i only ask this out of educational interest and not because i am trying to anything "illegal". i have a brand spanking new Dell system that has come with an XP reinstall CD, but i have not used it nor do i know if it "restores" the activation or if it is a straight XP install disc that I would have to use my COA key on or if it is built in with the SLP key.

If you have the Dell CD you don't need this. In setting up this procedure I compared a Dell CD to a hologram CD and wrote a program that would generate the files that were different.

dagon, on Sep 19 2007, 10:13 AM, said:

how does using this method differ or how is it different than the "OEMScan - Automated Multi Manufacture Pre-Activation Utility" thread? or does it not differ?

OEMScan is an offshoot of this method. The differances are as follows:

• This method will only work with 1 manufacturer and OEMScan will work with multiple manufacturers
  
• This method replaces the files before Windows is installed and OEMScan changes them after Windows is installed
  
• This method doesn't require any additional software to be run or configured on the target PC

dagon, on Sep 19 2007, 10:13 AM, said:

from the sound of it both methods get the SLP key, and create the oembios.* files... is this correct?

Yes.

dagon, on Sep 19 2007, 10:13 AM, said:

Ultimately what I want to accomplish is to be able to create a custom install CD using nLite/etc that is already activated--which normally would not be possible unless you started with a VLK source/key--on my laptop (which legit coa, slp, etc) and my Dell desktop (ditto on the legit). I have a restore cd for the Toshiba that restores it to factory, including the activation, but also including all the junk software. And as I said, I'm not sure what the Dell restore CD is... if it's just a straight XP install of it its an actual "restore" cd..

If you want your CD to work for multiple manufacturers use OEMScan, otherwise use this procedure

[onelovekir]

i called MS to activate but they couldnt tell me how to change my key to the COA key that i have on my system (it doesnt help that everytime i called MS that i get a foreigner on the phone who is so anxious to just hang up on me). they said i have to contact dell on the issue. this creates a problem cuz how can they tell me when my warranty is finished? i dont know.... this whole thing just p***es me off.

[ZaForD]

onelovekir said:

i called MS to activate but they couldnt tell me how to change my key to the COA key that i have on my system

Even if this was possible and the guy kenw how to do it, he couldn't tell you. Without lossing his job.
I don't know if this would be classed as piracy, but it would definitely violate your licence agreement.

onelovekir said:

it doesnt help that everytime i called MS that i get a foreigner on the phone who is so anxious to just hang up on me

If you were asking me to put my job on the line. I'd be trying to hang up on you.
But then again as you can see by my nationality on the left, I'm a foreigner too.

onelovekir said:

they said i have to contact dell on the issue.

As you said in your post, you bought this PC [and its OS] from Dell. So they should really be the people your talking to. Because they're the ones that took your money.
But no company is gonna tell you that outright.

The only way your gonna solve this is to get/find/buy/borrow/steal a Genuine Dell or Holographic OEM CD. As thats the only disks that will accept your COA number.
That may not be the answer your after, but its the right best your gonna get from this foreigner.

[Bezalel]

ZaForD, on Sep 20 2007, 09:50 AM, said:

The only way your gonna solve this is to get/find/buy/borrow/steal a Genuine Dell or Holographic OEM CD. As thats the only disks that will accept your COA number.
That may not be the answer your after, but its the right best your gonna get from this foreigner.

Google is your friend.

[andrewwan1980]

Bezalel, on Sep 19 2007, 07:23 PM, said:

If you have the Dell CD you don't need this. In setting up this procedure I compared a Dell CD to a hologram CD and wrote a program that would generate the files that were different.

I have a Dell SP1a slipstreamed to SP2 CD. However I do not like the branding and other customised files and wish to OEMBIOS process a generic MSDN SP2 CD. I used Beyond Compare to compare the I386 folders of the Dell SP2 CD & MSDN SP2 CDs. Files differing are:

I386\ACC_DIS.CH_
I386\ACCESSIB.CH_
I386\EULA.TXT
I386\IESUPP.CH_
I386\IEWEBHLP.CH_
I386\MDMSSYS.IN_
I386\MINDEX.DL_
I386\MSISAM11.DL_
I386\MSUNI11.DL_
I386\NEWALERT.WA_
I386\NEWEMAIL.WA_
I386\OEMBIOS.BI_
I386\OEMBIOS.CA_
I386\OEMBIOS.DA_
I386\OEMBIOS.SI_
I386\ONLINE.WA_
I386\OSCHOICE.EX_
I386\PRIVACY.HT_
I386\SETUPP.INI
I386\SUPP_ED.CH_
I386\WMERRENU.DL_
I386\WMIDX.OC_
I386\WMMFILT.DL_
I386\WMMRES.DL_
I386\WMMUTIL.DL_
I386\WMPSTUB.EX_
I386\WMPVIS.DL_
I386\WMV8DMOD.DL_
----------------------

Besides the OEMBIOS.* and SETUPP.INI differing, why do you think the other files would differ? Was it because of Dell's SP1a or Dell's customisation to these files? And back to the main query, is it possible to use Dell OEMBIOS files into MSDN and change SETUPP.INI to accept OEM keys?

[maxXPsoft]

maxXPsoft, on May 9 2006, 07:24 PM, said:

I used an MCE 2 CD set that was not manufacturer specific ; Dell, HP
Mine is a HP but just adding those files and getting all the Hotfixes for Media Center Edition worked for me.
And benefit is NO 40 games they want you to pay for and Trial versions of a bunch of stuff I don't use.
Mine squeaky clean

His getkey.vbs works and makes the basic Winnt.sif which is good for beginner's, yes you can use JellyBean

You sent me a msg andrewwan1980
I used vbs file from original installation and done as above with my UnattendXP application.
I used an MCE 2 CD set that was not manufacturer specific ; Dell, HP had a friend who had the 2 CD set non OEM

[Archigos]

I've mainly just skimmed this... but a quicker way of getting the SLP needed for the OEMBIOS files (this has been checked on different royalty style systems from different companies. Ex. Lenovo TabletPC, Dell XP Pro Desktop)

Open up the following file in notepad or whatever and it's listed under [Version]
C:\Windows\System32\oobe\oobeinfo.ini

By the way... great work guys... It's helping me further my steps in ridding my Tablet of Lenovo's bloatware.

[Archigos]

Hey guys,
I ran into a small problem... I'm trying to create a disc so I can reinstall XP Tablet Edition on my system... (I have a Lenovo X41 Tablet)

I borrowed a legit disc from a friend that has another tablet, changed the setupp.ini to match the one in the recovery files on my system so it would take the oem key and put the oembios files in the i386 directory. I think integrated a bunch of DriverPacks into the disc and again copied over the setupp.ini and oembios files in case they changed. I then used nLite (only for the ISO making, nothing else) and I'm trying to test it in VMWare. It's telling me the product key is invalid... (the one that your getkey file and the one I mentioned above are identical). I assume this is because the VM obviously wont have a Lenovo branded BIOS, but I wanted to check with you because I tried that key, the one on the bottom of the system and the one that he had with the disc and they all failed.

I'm just a little paranoid about formatting the tablet if this isn't going to work since I need the system on a daily basis and formatting the drive will temporarily lock out the recovery partition until you install some of their crap software that modifies the MBR.

(Oh, I'm about to try making an iso that's a fresh disc with just the setupp.ini and oembios files and not put in the driverpacks, to see if that works.)

Any suggestions would be great.

[kmaheshkumar]

i am using assembled pcs in our lab and i am using registered version of windows xp only, what is the perfect method to make the windows as pre-activated
plz help me for this

[ZaForD]

@Archigos,

I won't discuss editing the 'setupp.ini' file here as I think its agasint the forum rules.
But I'd use the 'setupp.ini' from the orignal machine along with the OEMBIOS files and winnt.sif collected with the scripts. As they all come from the orginal machine they should all work.

@kmaheshkumar,

If by "assembled pcs" you mean PC's that you or someone eles have assembled.
You can't pre-active them.
You can only pre-activate pre-assembled OEM machines bought from 'Royality OEMs' like Compaq, Dell or HP.

[kmaheshkumar]

ZaForD, on Dec 26 2007, 08:33 AM, said:

@kmaheshkumar,

If by "assembled pcs" you mean PC's that you or someone eles have assembled.
You can't pre-active them.
You can only pre-activate pre-assembled OEM machines bought from 'Royality OEMs' like Compaq, Dell or HP.

thanx for giving reply

[Madeye]

Hi! I've got a License from a Toshiba computer I got on Ebay, I installed and activated it by telephone, using the key from the COA sticker. It worked.

But, now that I had to reinstall XP a couple of times I get tired of phoning Microsoft each f***ing time I reinstalled Windows XP

The problem is, I had to build a home cd from my recovery cd, using the instructions on http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/in...hp/t219260.html and http://forums.techguy.org/tech-tips-tricks...on-cd-your.html
(because my system is no Toshiba Notebook, but I own only the license. This is LEGAL - I looked it up, and Microsoft doesn't deny it!)
I could install and activate it correctly!

But now I read in this thread that I could create a pre-activated cd, I reinstalled the recovery on a free partition and created the files
OEMBIOS.CA_
OEMBIOS.BI_
OEMBIOS.DA_
OEMBIOS.SI_
with the great script on this cd, creating the Winnt.sif with the Jellybean keyfinder from the recovered partition.

I used the I386-folder from the recovery partition and copied the above files over them.

I burned the cd installed the cd without problems BUT I STILL HAT TO ACTIVATE WINDOWS

In another thread it said to include the files
DPCDLL.DL_
OEMBIOS.BI_
OEMBIOS.CA_
OEMBIOS.DA_
OEMBIOS.SI_
PIDGEN.DLL
SETUPP.INI
SETUPREG.HIV
(and maybe the OOBEINFO.IN_)
from the oiriginal cd, but these are already there in the i386 folder on the recovered Toshiba partition!

Should I maybe create them the same way I created the oembios-files ?

Thanx very much for your help!!!

[Madeye]

Hi

I now found out what thw problem was / is.

First, as you may know or not, in Europe it's perfectly legal to buy OEM licenses and install the xp on a different system, than that which the OEM license is from...it may not be so in the USA. It is legal as long as it is only installed once and you got the COA key sticker and CD and booklet.

So, now I got a legal xp home that was activated correctly many times on my PC, never any prob with that when calling Microsoft´s Activation Hotline. The first time, after buying the license and cd I had to answer the usual two questions: 1. is this an OEM license - yes, 2. on how many systems is it installed - 1.

Since then I've installed xp on my system many times and have been able to activate correctly after - recently I formatted 10 GB less on my hard drive when installing and created a second partition with the rest of the system and use the FREEWARE TOOL http://www.drivesnap....de/en/down.htm : Now this is the BEST software for creating backups I've ever encountered:

1. it is only one single, small file
2. You can make a backup of you Windows or Linux system while WORKING:
we even made backups of file servers while they were up and running in the network - never any problem recovering those!
3. The program lets you backup your system for a number of days (I think 30) but from then on you may always RESTORE the system!

Just use the rescue disk described on the homepage or build a Bart's PE or rescue CD. (With BARTS PE snapshot only lets you recover files ON A HARDDISK)

I think it is even better than TrueImage and other programs, because it is free and so easy to use!! Try it

I still think it obnoxious to have to activate my xp each time after installing it, but there seems to be no way to skip the SLP bios check in a legal way, and I want t have a legally activated CD -- I mean, that's what I bought it for.

I used Windows 2000 for a number of years and never had to activate, so I think the xp activation sucks!!

Because my PC doesn't have a SLP-recognized bios the pre-activation won't ever work on my PC - or so it seems. Do you know any way to pass the BIOS lock for regular PCs?

This post has been edited by Madeye: 16 March 2008 - 07:37 AM

[andrewwan1980]

Just curious whether this should work on chinese windows xp systems?

My winnt.sif file came out like:

CScript ¿ù»~: µLªk¬° Script "C:\getfiles\getkey.vbs"§ä¨ì Script ¤ÞÀº "VBScript" ¡C



so am not sure whether the OEMBIOS.* files came out okay :S