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#1 User is offline   logan1 

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  Posted 01 January 2006 - 12:16 PM

I read through this site yesterday and created a bootable XP pro CD with slipstream dirvers using nlite. now i have 2 HDD's. the cd seems to work fine with my western digital 200GB SATA HDD (it recognizes the HDD when it is the only hdd connected to the system ). I am wanting to install XP pro on my new HDD which is s western digital 250 GB SATA II HDD, but the new HDD is not being recognized by xp. if i have both the HDDs connected then the setup says it cannot detect any HDDs connected to my system.
i am unable to fix the problem, any help would be much appreciated.


My system:

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (newcastle)
Asus K8V SE Deluxe
ATI Radeon X800XT PE
200GB WESTERN DIGITAL SATA
250GB WESTERN DIGITAL SATA II
Audigy 2 + Megaworks 650 6.1
OCZ EL 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200
Kingwin KT-424-BK-WM Aluminum Mid-Tower ATX
TTGI FS-550TS 550W Mirrored Power supply


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Posted 01 January 2006 - 01:09 PM

Sounds like XP is not seeing the driver for the SATA II drive, or when the two drives are connected that it is getting a conflict. I have an SATA drive that works fine with one of the drivers supplied (si3112 driver) but when i add the si3112r raid driver it no longer works. The only solution i found was to add both drivers on a floppy disk and press f6 to install both, or to only have one driver integrated into the win xp cd.

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 02:08 PM

well the reason i switched to slipstream is because my floopy drive has stopped working. for some reason my floppy drive won’t recognize any floppies, I bought a new floppy drive of newegg.com and installed it thinking the old one might have gone bad, but even the new one won’t recognize any floppies. I know the floopy is good cause it works on my external USB floopy drive and i dont think i can use the USB floopy drive while installing windows.

do i need a seperate driver for SATA II. while making my XP CD i just used the driver packs provided on this forum.

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 02:50 PM

You should get a driver disk with the hard drive. Not sure but you might need a seperate driver for the SATA II.

Wit your floppy drive, are you sure the cable is connected correctly. Sometimes you can connect the cable upsidedown, this puts the led on but wont recognise the floppy drive properly.

Are you adding the SATA driver to the i386 folder or are you just using the spilstreamed driver pack?

On the problem with yur two hard drives being connected at the same time. I had a similar problem where i had to change the physical connectivity of the hard drives as it was trying to boot a blank SATA drive beofre the SATA drive with the OS. It kept getting a conflict between the drives.

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 03:29 PM

ok i took my whole computer apart and removed all the dust and put it back together and the floopy drive started working. thanx

as for teh SATA II driver, i checked ASUS's site and they dont have anything up. so i have to presume that you dont need a seperate driver for SATA II.

As for trying to load the SCSI controler using a floopy. I did it and still no luck on XP detecting my new HDD.

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 03:35 PM

Only thing i can think of is you dont have SATA II on the motherboard to ineract with the HDD.

When you say a western digital SATA II drive i assume you mean WD2500JS or WD2500KS drive.

http://support.wdc.com/download/index.asp?...n&pid=15&swid=9 is the download for th Silicon Image Controller chip

http://support.wdc.com/download/index.asp?...&pid=15&swid=10 is for the Western Digital Controller chip

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 06:28 PM

nope that did not work either.

do i need a special card or something to run SATA II on my mobo.

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 06:56 PM

Just looked at the spec's for the motherboard and cant see SATA II support so you will have to get a SATA II controller card that goes in a PCI slot or the PCIe slot.

Asus Site: http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=K8V%20...Deluxe&langs=01


SATA II Cards:
http://www.cooldrive...ii3gra4p64.html

The problem i found is that you might not find a PCI card, most cards I found with a SATA II controller are PCIe (PCI express). Have a look around and see what you can find that will help you out further.

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 07:46 PM

o crap i guess i gotta talk to newegg customer support about trading this for a SATA then.

thanx for the help, it is much appreciated.

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 08:22 PM

It should be noted that a SATA II hard drive WILL work on a SATA I port, there is no need to trade the hard drive. Installing Windows XP on your SATA II hard drive depends on how you've connected your hard drive and how the BIOS is configured. If you've connected your hard drive on the south bridge, it's simply a matter of setting your bios to emulate as IDE. If you've connected your hard drive on the Promise controller, you will need to put the drivers for the Promise controller on disquette and hit F6 to install them during the XP text mode setup.

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 10:52 PM

well just found a way around it. there is a jumper setting that lets me run teh HDD as a SATA and not a SATA II. It worked but i will only get 1.5gb/s transfer as oppose to teh 3gb/s of sata II.

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Posted 02 January 2006 - 08:28 AM

jcarle: You are quite right, it will work on the SATA controller (if the BIOS is set correctly) but will still only work at 50% of its speed (SATA II being 2x the sped of SATA). If hes going to have a hard drive in his machine, maybe he should stick to having SATA, after all why pay for an option you cant use :)

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Posted 02 January 2006 - 09:02 AM

SATA II hard drives do NOT transfer at higher speeds then SATA I. It's already been proven that the physical limitations of current hard drives do not exceed the bandwidth that SATA I provides. They simply aren't fast enough. The advantages of SATA II come with Hot Plugging, NCQ, Staggered Spin-Up and better power management. Also, if you check prices, SATA II hard drives are becoming cheaper then their SATA I equivalents. It's always best to go for the newest possible technology when possible as it avoids upgrade headaches in the future. :)

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Posted 02 January 2006 - 01:52 PM

The invention of SATA and its release into the wild, so to speak, opens up all sorts of avenues.

I wanted to upgrade to a SATA drive but my mobo would not support it.
SO, I got a SATA controller card from Buslink. (About $30)
I was able to get my new SATA drive up and running on that little PCI card with only a minimum of difficulty.
I was even able to add a second SATA drive and RAID the two drives together.
The RAID configuration ate up both SATA ports and two drives and didn't give me the scorching speed I was looking for. So I dismantled the RAID setup and went back to a single SATA drive.

Then, I found the IDE to SATA adaptor. I just installed it on the back of my old IDE drive and plugged it into my SATA controller with a SATA drive cable. I was astounded and amazed to see that it made my little 60 gig Maxtor (IDE) drive run just like a new SATA drive. I saw data transfer speeds of 1.5mbpm.

So there's just one more option available to someone wanting faster performance from their IDE drives.\

It just gets better and better,

Good Luck to all,
Andromeda43

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Posted 02 January 2006 - 01:55 PM

Promise SATA II PCI controller

http://shopping.msn....itemId=45579868
or a two port version
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16816102060

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