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#51
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mraeryceos, so to confirm, if one wishes to install a PDF printer such as the opensource PDFcreator, we need to keep system restore service only?

Cheers,
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mraeryceos, so to confirm, if one wishes to install a PDF printer such as the opensource PDFcreator, we need to keep system restore service only?

Cheers,
James
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I think that is correct, but I am not using nLite. I am using JdeBoeck's method for taking out components. His site is gone, AFAIK.

Something else I have not removed is Windows Management Instrumentation, but I have done this for other reasons previously, not for the purpose of obtaining printer driver functionality. I should also note that I have the file framedyn.dll copied over via $OEM$, but again, I don't know if it makes a difference or not. Someone would have to try without it.

An aside... someone before mentioned starting a WIKI. I disagreed at first, but now I think it would be a good idea... I could just post a link to it on the first post, so the WIKI web address would be known to all. My objection to the WIKI was that it wouldn't be here at MSFN, but with the link FROM MSFN... well let's just say that sometimes I need to have the obvious shown to me.

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Hi,

fo you have any idea what file's missing if i cant play macromedia flash file? actually it is not that i cant play the whole file but the sound is missing, so if let say im accessing one of youtube video, the video will play well but there will be no sound at all...

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I'm not a big multimedia buff, but "windows media lite" might help:
http://www.codecguid...nload_other.htm

If you have nlited, or otherwise removed all traces of players and codecs, you can also rebuild with:
k-lite codec package (standard)
real alternative
quicktime alternative

If you have not nlited, or not removed all traces of players and codecs, adding additional codecs on top of existing codecs is not a good idea, so this will likely help you only if you are in this game.

Edited by mraeryceos, 14 September 2006 - 10:53 PM.


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mraeryceos, so to confirm, if one wishes to install a PDF printer such as the opensource PDFcreator, we need to keep system restore service only?

Cheers,
James
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actually you can remove system restore service, and PDFCreator (Version 0.92-0.93) still keep working without any problems, at least it works for me.

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actually you can remove system restore service, and PDFCreator (Version 0.92-0.93) still keep working without any problems, at least it works for me.

Have you tried with other printer drivers?
There have been many threads whose conclusion is that Adobe Acrobat pdf printer driver depends on system restore. Are you saying that you remove system restore AFTER installing PDFCreator?

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Okay, so now I am a little confused - please confirm what is required in order to use PDFcreator.

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mraeryceos, so to confirm, if one wishes to install a PDF printer such as the opensource PDFcreator, we need to keep system restore service only?

Cheers,
James
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actually you can remove system restore service, and PDFCreator (Version 0.92-0.93) still keep working without any problems, at least it works for me.


I'd swear I also used PDF printers with that service removed. :whistle:

Gonna re-use a VM soon.

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actually you can remove system restore service, and PDFCreator (Version 0.92-0.93) still keep working without any problems, at least it works for me.

Have you tried with other printer drivers?
There have been many threads whose conclusion is that Adobe Acrobat pdf printer driver depends on system restore. Are you saying that you remove system restore AFTER installing PDFCreator?


I never tried with real printers, but for virtual printer, they work totally fine without restore serveice, even Adobe Acrobat Printer. Here is my thought: i used to install a acrobat 5.0 pdf virtual printer on my OS, which was modified by a ealier version of nlite to remove restore service, and the printer did NOT work, also any other virtual printer like FreePDF XP and PDFCreator. So i guess it is only a little dependency mistake appeared in the ealier version of nlite and i don't know why there are still so many threads talking about not removing restore service to keep virtual printer working, they are wrong.

btw, i of course remove restore service BEFORE install PDFCreator, otherwise it's a issue of how to use XPlite :D

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And, If by some unknown factor, The file SFC_OD.DLL is missing... Where would I find it?

I had to reformat because someone who used my computer download a bunch of crap and filled the pc with spyware and a few viruses. Upon it coming back up Somewhere, the file SFC_OD.DLL was deleted seicne im getting the error messages.

Id Just like to know where I could find a way to repair whatevers missing.

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It would make me all too happy to know which files are required, rather than having to put in system restore.

I am using XP SP1, with JdeBoeck's removed files for system restore, while you guys are using XPLite and Nlite. Files taken out by JdeBoeck are:

filelist.xml
rstrui.exe
sr.inf
sr.sys
srclient.dll
srdiag.exe
srframe.mmf
srrstr.dll
srsvc.dll
sysrestr.hlp
sysrestw.chm

I had taken out system restore, so to make the pdf printer install, I had to right-click-install "sr.inf"

sr.inf contains:
[version]
Signature="$CHICAGO$"
SetupClass=BASE
LayoutFile=layout.inf

[DefaultInstall]
CopyFiles=SRFlt_files,SRSvc_files,SR_files
AddReg=SRFlt_addreg,SRSvc_addreg,SR_addreg
ProfileItems=SRProfile
RegisterDlls=SR_register
DelReg=SRSvc_delreg

[DefaultInstall.Services]
AddService=sr,,SRFlt_service,SRFlt_event
AddService=srservice,,SRSvc_service,SRSvc_event

[Uninstall]
DelFiles=SRFlt_files,SRSvc_files,SR_files,SRWmi_files
DelReg=SRFlt_delreg,SRSvc_delreg,SR_delreg
UnregisterDlls=SR_register

[Uninstall.Services]
DelService=sr
DelService=srservice

[DestinationDirs]
SRFlt_files=12
SRSvc_files=11
SR_files=11,Restore

[SRFlt_files]
sr.sys,,,0x10000

[SRSvc_files]
srclient.dll,,,0x10000
srsvc.dll,,,0x10000
srrstr.dll,,,0x10000

[SRSvc_files.Security]
"D:P(A;;GRGX;;;BU)(A;;GA;;;BA)(A;;GA;;;SY)(A;;GRGX;;;WD)"

[SR_files]
filelist.xml,,,0x10000
rstrui.exe,,,0x10000
srframe.mmf,,,0x10000
srdiag.exe,,,0x10000

[SR_files.Security]
"D:P(A;;GRGX;;;BU)(A;;GA;;;BA)(A;;GA;;;SY)(A;;GRGX;;;WD)"

[SRProfile]
Name=%SR_UI_Link_Name%
CmdLine=11,restore,rstrui.exe
SubDir=%SR_UI_Link_SubDir%
InfoTip="@%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe,-2078"
DisplayResource="%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe",2048


[SRFlt_service]
DisplayName	= %SR_Filter_Name%
ServiceType	= 2	
StartType	  = 0	
ErrorControl   = 1	
ServiceBinary  = %12%\sr.sys
LoadOrderGroup = "FSFilter System Recovery"

[SRSvc_service]
DisplayName	= %SR_Service_Name%
Description	= %SR_Service_Desc%
ServiceType	= 0x20  
StartType	  = 2	 
ErrorControl   = 1	 
ServiceBinary  = %11%\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
Dependencies   = "RpcSs"

[SRSvc_event]
AddReg=SRSvc_event_addreg
DelReg=SRSvc_event_delreg

[SRFlt_event]
AddReg=SRFlt_event_addreg
DelReg=SRFlt_event_delreg

[SRFlt_addreg]
HKLM,"system\currentcontrolset\services\SR\Parameters","FirstRun",0x10001,1
HKLM,"system\currentcontrolset\services\SR\Parameters","DontBackup",0x10001,0
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\sr.sys","",0x00000000,"FSFilter System Recovery"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBoot\Network\sr.sys","",0x00000000,"FSFilter System Recovery"

[SRSvc_addreg]
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SRService\Parameters","ServiceDll",0x00020000,"%11%\srsvc.dll"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\SRService","",0x00000000,"Service"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBoot\Network\SRService","",0x00000000,"Service"

[SR_addreg]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore","DisableSR",0x10001,0
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore","CreateFirstRunRp",0x10001,0
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore\Cfg","DiskPercent",0x10001,12
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore\SnapshotCallbacks"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run","SRFirstRun",,"rundll32 srclient.dll,CreateFirstRunRp"

[SRSvc_event_addreg]
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EventLog\System\SRService","EventMessageFile",0x00020000,"%11%\srsvc.dll"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EventLog\System\SRService","TypesSupported",0x00010001,7

[SRFlt_event_addreg]
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EventLog\System\SR","EventMessageFile",0x00020000,"%11%\IoLogMsg.dll;%12%\sr.sys"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EventLog\System\SR","TypesSupported",0x00010001,7

[SRFlt_delreg]
HKLM,"system\currentcontrolset\services\SR\Parameters","MachineGuid"
HKLM,"system\currentcontrolset\services\SR\Parameters","Disabled"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\sr.sys"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBoot\Network\sr.sys"

[SRSvc_delreg]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SvcHost","SRGroup"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\SRService"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBoot\Network\SRService"
HKLM,"SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore\FilesToSnapshot"

[SR_delreg]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore"

[SRSvc_event_delreg]
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EventLog\Application\SRService"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EventLog\System\SRService","EventMessageFile"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EventLog\System\SRService","TypesSupported"

[SRFlt_event_delreg]
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EventLog\System\SR","EventMessageFile"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EventLog\System\SR","TypesSupported"

[SR_register]
11,,srclient.dll,1

[Strings]
SR_Filter_Name  = "System Restore Filter Driver"

SR_Service_Name = "System Restore Service"
SR_Service_Desc = "Performs system restore functions. To stop service, turn off System Restore from the System Restore tab in My Computer->Properties"

SR_UI_Link_Name	= "System Restore"
SR_UI_Link_SubDir  = "Accessories\System Tools"



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what not to remove for hamachi ? (www.hamachi.cc)

Edited by monohouse, 21 September 2006 - 01:44 PM.


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I made an INF that installs/uninstalls the 16-bit Subsystem so those who thought they didn't need it can reinstall it, but I have one snag: I don't know where C:\WINDOWS\system\setup.inf is located on the XP CD. It might not be an important file but just to be sure. If not I will publish the INF with setup.inf included.

The INF works very well.

Nevermind, I found it

--

Alright here it is.



To restore the 16-bit subsytem:
RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection NTVDM_nlite.inf,Ntvdm.Install

To uninstall the 16-bit subsytem:
RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection NTVDM_nlite.inf,Ntvdm.Remove

Insert the path to an un-nLited CD or other source when prompted. A restart should not be required. I've only tested on XP SP2 though.

sep 22, 4pm edit; Refined file list

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Edited by redxii, 29 September 2006 - 10:38 PM.


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And, If by some unknown factor, The file SFC_OD.DLL is missing... Where would I find it?

I had to reformat because someone who used my computer download a bunch of crap and filled the pc with spyware and a few viruses. Upon it coming back up Somewhere, the file SFC_OD.DLL was deleted seicne im getting the error messages.

Id Just like to know where I could find a way to repair whatevers missing.



sfc_oS.dll cannot be missing.

Edited by Camarade_Tux, 22 September 2006 - 03:05 PM.


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so using nlite it is possible to place an exception list of dlls and other files not to delete? even if we check off to remove a specific functionality?? how and where do we do this? so basically, i could incorporate all of bold fortune's exceptions into nlite and it would not delete them?

can anyone help with this question of mine, i am curious as to this functionality of nlite.

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Um, I have a problem with MSN Live Messenger, wont save my specialchars (swedish åäö ÅÄÖ) when I rename my groups, put it in my username and so on. Its like messenger dont support unicode when it saves the information of my username and groupnames. It works when I change it and have the process running tho. Here is a list of my nLited winxp

OMG in swedish ;p


Customized by nLite v1.2 beta - www.nliteos.com

Components removed:

Fil och inställningsguiden
Guidad tur
Guiden för skrivbordsrensning
Konverterare för FAT till NTFS
Manuell installation och uppgradering
Mediahanterare för skalet
Remote Installation Services (RIS)
Sökassistenten
VB-skript för Administratörer
Webbvy
Verktyg för Save Dump
ClipBook Viewer
Hjälpmedelsinställningar
NT Backup
Pinball
Portfölj
Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM)
Bandenheter
Bildskärmskort
Flerfunktionsenheter
Grafikkortsdrivrutiner (äldre)
IBM PS/2 TrackPoint
IBM Thinkpad
ISDN
Logitech WingMan
Nätverk (LAN)
Scanners
SCSI/RAID
Serial Pen Tablet
Sony Jog Dial
Toshiba DVD-dekoderkort
Trådlöst nätverk (WLAN)
Brother-enheter
Gravis Digital GamePort
Smart Card
Stöd för Bluetooth
Stöd för Firewire (1394)
Stöd för FireWire-nätverk
Stöd för flera processorer
Windows CE USB Host
Exempelmusik
Gamla CD-Spelaren och Ljudinspelaren
Media Center
Movie Maker
Muspekare
Tablet PC
Talstöd
Windows-ljud
Client for Netware Networks
Comtrol Test Terminal Program
Guide för Internetanslutning
MSN Explorer
Netmeeting
Outlook Express
Synkroniseringshanteraren
Tillägg för Frontpage
Web Folders
Windows Messenger
Albansk tangentbord
Arabisk (101) tangentbord
Arabisk (102) AZERTY tangentbord
Arabisk (102) tangentbord
Arameisk skrift tangentbord
Armenisk (västlig) tangentbord
Armenisk (östlig) tangentbord
Azerbajdzjansk (kyrillisk) tangentbord
Azerbajdzjansk (latinsk) tangentbord
Belgisk (komma) tangentbord
Bengali (Inscript) tangentbord
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Bulgarisk tangentbord
Dansk tangentbord
Devanagari - INSCRIPT tangentbord
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Estnisk tangentbord
Finsk med samiska språk tangentbord
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Fonetisk arameisk skrift tangentbord
Fonetisk divehiskrift tangentbord
Fransk (belgisk) tangentbord
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Fransk (kanadensisk, gammal) tangentbord
Fransk (schweizisk) tangentbord
Fransk tangentbord
Färöisk tangentbord
Gaelisk tangentbord
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Grekisk (220) Latin tangentbord
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Grekisk (latinsk) tangentbord
Grekisk (polytonisk) tangentbord
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Gujarati tangentbord
Hebreisk tangentbord
Hindi (traditionell) tangentbord
Irländsk tangentbord
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Italiensk 142 tangentbord
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Japansk tangentbord
Japanskt indatasystem (MS-IME2002) tangentbord
Kanadensisk (flerspråkig standard) tangentbord
Kannada tangentbord
Kazakisk tangentbord
Kinesisk (förenklad) - amerikanskt tangentbord tangentbord
Kinesisk (förenklad) - Microsoft Pinyin IME 3.0 tangentbord
Kinesisk (förenklad) - NeiMa tangentbord
Kinesisk (förenklad) - QuanPin tangentbord
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Kinesisk (traditionell) - Big5-kod tangentbord
Kinesisk (traditionell) - ChangJie tangentbord
Kinesisk (traditionell) - DaYi tangentbord
Kinesisk (traditionell) - fonetisk tangentbord
Kinesisk (traditionell) - matris tangentbord
Kinesisk (traditionell) - ny ChangJie tangentbord
Kinesisk (traditionell) - ny fonetisk tangentbord
Kinesisk (traditionell) - snabb tangentbord
Kinesisk (traditionell) - unicode tangentbord
Kirgizisk kyrillisk skrift tangentbord
Koreansk tangentbord
Koreanskt inmatningssystem (Hangul) (MS-IME98) tangentbord
Kroatisk tangentbord
Latinamerikansk tangentbord
Lettisk (qwerty) tangentbord
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Litauisk IBM tangentbord
Litauisk tangentbord
Makedoniska tangentbord
Malayalam tangentbord
Maltesisk (47 tangenter) tangentbord
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Maori tangentbord
Marathi tangentbord
Mongolisk kyrillisk skrift tangentbord
Nederländsk (belgisk) tangentbord
Nederländsk tangentbord
Norsk med samiska språk tangentbord
Norsk tangentbord
Persisk tangentbord
Polsk (214) tangentbord
Polsk (programmerare) tangentbord
Portugisisk (Brasiliansk ABNT) tangentbord
Portugisisk (Brasiliansk ABNT2) tangentbord
Portugisisk tangentbord
Punjabi tangentbord
Rumänsk tangentbord
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Samiska språk (utökad, Finland-Sverige) tangentbord
Samiska språk (utökad, Norge) tangentbord
Serbisk (kyrillisk) tangentbord
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Slovakisk (qwerty) tangentbord
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Tamilsk tangentbord
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Thailändsk Kedmanee (utan ShiftLock) tangentbord
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Thailändsk Pattachote (utan ShiftLock) tangentbord
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Turkisk F tangentbord
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Ukrainsk tangentbord
Ungersk 101-tangenters tangentbord
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Vietnamesisk tangentbord
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so using nlite it is possible to place an exception list of dlls and other files not to delete? even if we check off to remove a specific functionality?? how and where do we do this? so basically, i could incorporate all of bold fortune's exceptions into nlite and it would not delete them?

can anyone help with this question of mine, i am curious as to this functionality of nlite.


Search a bit more in the remove components page.
(will post a screenshot later)



@phiber0ptik, couldn't find.
I have to say the characters you're mentionning do not necessarilly need unicode.

And one day, I'll make my lastsession.ini translator. :P

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Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition requires the Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS)

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So does Microsoft's .NET Framework 3.0

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FreeDownloadManager seems to be dependant on DCOM Laucnher.

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According to what happened with me
the file ODBCCP32.DLL is required to run media monkey, so keep it.
Thanks

Edited by MGadAllah, 15 November 2006 - 04:58 AM.

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X-teq X-Setup requires Visual Basic

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i found that to connect to my nt4domain i need net logon

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what not to remove for hamachi ? (www.hamachi.cc)


its dhcp client

-done a lot of testing and i'm pretty sure it only relies on this

Edited by bledd, 23 January 2007 - 08:27 AM.


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Honestly, I'm pretty disappointed that this is a Sticky.

Don't get me wrong, the concept is excellent. But the post itself is quite disorganized, and somewhat incoherent.

Some suggestions:
1) Why not place the list of applications in alphabetical order?
2) You could also make an alternate list with the files (in order) and the programs affected by them. It would be much easier to sift through that way.
3) Why not also include Windows components that shouldn't be removed for certain apps, not just particular files.

I don't know. Just a little more info (maybe a better explanation/intro at the top of the first post) and organization, guys.

Adding BB Code also helps make it more readable. ;)

PS: I'd be glad to help out if you like. (This is a 'real' offer, not a 'sarcastic' one. Really. I'll help.)
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