[mraeryceos]

shilyro: vLite? I thought this topic was just for nLite.
Although related, Vlite should have its own "What not to remove for some programs" topic.

[I_Broke_My_MHZ]

I posted a workaround for the IE removal and Steam problem here.

[TranceEnergy]

I_Broke_My_MHZ, on Aug 8 2008, 07:50 AM, said:

I posted a workaround for the IE removal and Steam problem here.

That's really neat, but if you could post in some detail to what you did exactly, it would be easy to replicate the steps deemed necessary.
Not all run xp xpsp3.

[I_Broke_My_MHZ]

Done.

[TranceEnergy]

Devil May Cry 4 = needs wmplayer codecs. At least Wmvcore.dll, i will perhaps do a new install to check this.
btw: I had removed wmplayer and shell media handler and everything codecs from install, even wmplayer compability with nlite 1.4.8, but wmplayer 11 would still install, and game runs fine.
Wmplayer even plays files. Im sure some parts of it is broken, but nothing that is visibile per usage so far.
edit: Needs windows media format 11 runtime.

This post has been edited by TranceEnergy: 12 August 2008 - 06:18 AM

[AgiHammerklau]

Do you really need to have wmp11 installed, or is it possible to use a codec-package and an alternative player ?
Agi

[TranceEnergy]

More DevilMayCry4 checking:
Did a clean real install of windows, had removed wmp and wmp compability but kept "acm core codecs", so i know it isnt that.
Game wouldnt start so installed wmfdist.exe , "Windows Media Format 11 Runtime" . So game needs codecs basically. It worked without wmp11 player installed.

So it would be nice with a pack that includes all wmp11 codecs, but without any of the services and other crap/bloat that it installs. Google away.


Windows Search 4.0

vmware: deleted imapi service with imapi 2.0 being installed, error showing up in event viewer
The protocol handler Search.Mapi2Handler.1 cannot be loaded. Error description: Class not registered
Searching still seems to work tho. i've only removed partially imapi files (1.0 files, not 2.0)

This post has been edited by TranceEnergy: 31 August 2008 - 08:58 AM

[Maxfutur]

NT BackUp Needs Indexing Service and Windows Management Instrumentation Maybe something else.

@nuhi would be nice to see it in nLite.

[TranceEnergy]

NT Backup does NOT need indexing service on my os, nor does it need WMI running at least.

In fact, NT Backup will quite happily run even if you relocate it, meaning you can have it run almost as if it was a portable program (it isnt tho because of registry writes etc).

So please specify what your O.S. is.. Most apps need WMI nowadays anyway, so i wouldnt bother with that. At some point one has to realize that if you remove that kind of service you are going to lose a ton of compability with software. On the other hand it is possible to slim down what nt backup actually uses. You can remove removable storage f.ex and it will still work. Actually i dont need wmi either for it to run now that i think of it.

[Maxfutur]

Maybe depends on the way you work with.

Only leave it there without a problem, have you tried manual/advanced backup?

If i remove indexing services, it stops when the back up starts.

OS is Win XP Pro SP3 plus hotfixes until sept.

To figure out i remove all at services but keep restoring until it works, on each component, 1 install, think the wasted time...

This post has been edited by Maxfutur: 08 October 2008 - 08:45 PM

[OuTmAn]

made several nLited iso, installed them in Virtual PC... but in many, VirtualMachine Additions don't want to install (MSI launches install but does a rollback before the end)...

I already figured that "file and printer sharing" network component is needed in order to execute setup up to the end.

However, in some cases, after install and a reboot, mouse integration doesn't work, shared folders aren't available, etc. and also cannot uninstall (same problem: try but rollback)!

some iso are working, but they are very very few nLited (ie. remove 2-3 components and no tweak at all)

I know, should do (many) bunch testing try-and-see; but to be honest I'm too tired, I'm busy of nLiting, breaks too many things, not enough infos of "this component is used by X and Y", no real dependencies management... and each test takes a LOT of time espacially on my turtle computer

so I drop, before I become crazy

[TranceEnergy]

What windows is that? Details folks. Chuck Norris doesnt work here xD

[OuTmAn]

Windows XP Pro SP3 - Corporate - English

SP3 directly integrated on SP0 (vanilla) source, then latest RyanVM UpdatePack, then WMP11+hotfixes using WMP11 Slipstreamer, then IE7 addon by OnePiece, using RyanVM/Siginet Integrator

Even on a very little nLited source, Additions can install, but if try to uninstall them, uninstall process fails, however after reboot no mouse integration, shared folders etc. and need to do some heavy registry deletions in order to be able to reinstall Additions and make it working again.

As I said, I'm very very busy of that breaking events... on my working source, I will simply try to remove some components that annoy me, like firewall/ALG, QoS, etc. and see if they're needed for Additions. It can also simply be network tweaks... absolutely no idea as of now...

could try some process/file access monitor on an unmodified source, or step-after-step image comparison... but I'm tired of it and simply don't have time (work+studies...)

[TranceEnergy]

How do you expect that to help with nlite development that you fail to make a proper windows install cd? If you could come up with a detailed problem then that's good.

[visegrip]

I'm new to this forum, have just skimmed through the first 8 pages of this thread and done a few searches on the terms "HID" and "Human Interface Device" and not found an answer. Sorry if I have overlooked it.
In line with this thread's title, what shouldn't be removed during an nlite modification to maintain HID module functionality?
I am running XP with SP3 slipstreamed using nlite.
I apparently removed a component necessary for the HID service. I don't recall seeing it listed in the nlite "Remove components" window.
I just purchased a UPS with a third-party monitoring software that requires this service in order to work. I would like to run the monitoring service software because I live in an area with very unstable electrical transmission and have had an expensive power supply and monitor toasted previously.
Does anyone have information on which other components are necessary for the Human Interface Device service module to be installed and run properly?
If this has been addressed previously, a link would be nice.

[TranceEnergy]

Briefly looking into hid service, it does point to winsta.dll. I remember having the same issue that you have here but i dont recall what was needed to not remove for it to work.

[visegrip]

TranceEnergy,
Thanks for your reply, if you can remember or come up anything on this service and what needs to be kept using nlite for it to be maintained that would be fantastic. I will keep monitoring this thread.

[TranceEnergy]

A last session preset or such would help. Naturally you should stay clear of removing anything USB related to keep HID service working perfectly. Im not sure, but the first thing that popped into my head was terminal services, but that may be totally unrelated. As i said, i can't remember exactly, and my memory can't be forced =( As far as removal of components goes, if things will work or not, is always a question of what hardware the computer has. As a thumb rule, older devices needs things like those under "hardware support", newer devices most likely doesnt. And that again, is of course also dependent on the version of the driver of the hardware.

[Maxfutur]

visegrip, on Oct 19 2008, 01:40 AM, said:

I just purchased a UPS with a third-party monitoring software that requires this service in order to work. I would like to run the monitoring service software because I live in an area with very unstable electrical transmission and have had an expensive power supply and monitor toasted previously.
Does anyone have information on which other components are necessary for the Human Interface Device service module to be installed and run properly?

Maybe (i used translation.txt file to get this) Battery:
S323="Battery"
S324="Microsoft ACPI-Compliant Control Method Battery, HID UPS Battery Driver. Don't remove if you use this installation on a laptop/notebook."

Be carefull because UPS are not (all) power protection enabled, i own a stabilizer (kind of) where the V should stay 110V-120V but it always goes up to 134V.

Have fun!

[TranceEnergy]

Here is a wild guess :

Since i dont have a UPS myself, i dont know, but SURELY some UPS must come with some kind of software for monitoring its condition etc?

This would be very interesting to hear from if anyone has such software. Because the current UPS driver, at least for xp, even x64 in my case, is getting very old nowadays.
What i am getting is that how UPS works and such quite possibly works not according to windows services themselves.