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#2301
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@ tommyp
Many thanks for your interest and advice. I used 7zip to re-compress this addon and the problem does not occur :)
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Whew! Glad it worked out. Thanks geej for the friendly tip!
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hello!

Complete changelog for HFSLIP 1.3.0

Extras:

* DBLBIN*.EXT files are automatically renamed by HFSLIP; the new name includes the Service Pack level
* support for addons in RAR format; requires RAR.EXE from the WinRAR package for Windows in HFTOOLS
* support for addons in ZIP format and any other type that 7za.exe can handle; requires 7za.exe in HFTOOLS

cheers!
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p.s

When I put the reg/cmd file in the folder HFSVCPACK changes will be implemented for all users?

Based on http://support.microsoft.com/kb/328326
1.reg
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoSMConfigurePrograms"=dword:00000001

HKCU,"SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer","
NoSMConfigurePrograms",0x00010001,1

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced] 
"Start_ShowSetProgramAccessAndDefaults"=dword:00000000 

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoWindowsUpdate"=dword:00000001


or

2.cmd
DEL "%AllUsersProfile%\Start Menu\Windows Update.lnk"
DEL "%allusersprofile%\Start Menu\Windows Catalog.lnk"
DEL "%allusersprofile%\Start Menu\Określ dostęp do programów i ich ustawienia domyślne.lnk"



Edited by dziubek, 01 March 2010 - 11:49 AM.

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Personally I use a combo of hfsvcpack reg tweaks, cmd files and post install cmd silent installers/tweaks.

I think the latter should work, but do try one out one at a time and see what happens. Learning from mistakes and success is great. :) If you have more questions regarding system tweaking, please ask in the correct forum. This beta discussion thread is really for, well, beta test results and issues. So, please keep this thread on topic. Thanks.
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hello!

Complete changelog for HFSLIP 1.3.0

Extras:

* DBLBIN*.EXT files are automatically renamed by HFSLIP; the new name includes the Service Pack level
* support for addons in RAR format; requires RAR.EXE from the WinRAR package for Windows in HFTOOLS
* support for addons in ZIP format and any other type that 7za.exe can handle; requires 7za.exe in HFTOOLS

cheers!

Kiki - obviously there's a flaw in the rar execution of add ons as dziubek found a few threads above. The hfslip website has no mention of rar add-ons fwiw.
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tommyp,

I did a fresh install followed by getting the .NET Framework and other updates from Micrsoft updates. I then installed all of the programs I use. All is working well.

Then today I decided to test doing a "repair install" on a fresh install (not the complete install mentioned above). PROBLEM: Some things don't work after the repair install, as explained below.

Installed from my HFSLIP CD...
Source: Windows XP Pro using MSDN CD (Gold); I change PID in setupp.ini to accept OEM Product Key.
Integrated SP3, IE8, WMP11, RDC7, WUA3, and most other updates.
I integrated one driver (LAN).
I used the DefragSYSOC utility.

slipstreamed using HFSLIP 1.7.10 Beta H
checked using HFSLIPFC-100301
I did not use HFCLEANUP or nLite.

Simple Repair Install Test. First I did a fresh install (I did not enable auto updates) for Win XP Pro, when it was done I did a repair install. Initially all looked to be OK, I could open WMP11, notepad, etc. I could access files on my main computer via the LAN.

The first problem came when I tried to go online using IE8. I got this error message.

Windows Internet Explorer
Internet Explorer cannot download from www.msn.com (my homepage). Internet Explorer was not able to open this internet site. The requested site is either unavailable or cannot be found. Please try again later.

If I tried to access google.com or hfslip.org or any other site I got the same message as above with only the site name changed.

Next I installed CCleaner. When I tried to run it I got this error message...
RunDll32.exe - Entry Point Not found. The procedure entry point DeleteWpadCacheForNetworks could not be located in the dynamic link library WINNET.dll

At this point I decided to stop and post here.

I would like to know if others have tested a repair install, and if so does it work for them or not.

Thank you,
Lilla

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Edited by Lilla, 03 March 2010 - 12:00 AM.


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That makes sense. HFSLIP isn't supposed to be used to repair a system like that. It's used to for clean installs by CD. All the screen prompts said the same thing when you ran the program.
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tommyp, thanks for this wonderful application. But I believe there could be few problems with IE8 slipstreaming.

When Organize Favorites is selected from the Menu Bar (Favorites > Organize Favorites) in any explorer window (except IE), I just get a blank window. This does not happen when IE8 is installed manually using the installer after XP is installed.
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Other than that, no problems and my xp is working flawlessly :thumbup

Thanks.

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aj - if you install IE8 on top of what was slipstreamed, does that error still happen?
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Can anyone help with this issue? Does anyone care?
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I have seen this happen too… Trying to install IE8 again didn't work by the way, and I don't really know where to start debugging errors like this. :}

EDIT:
Empty dialog box:
Rundll32.exe shdocvw.dll, DoOrganizeFavDlg
Workaround:
Rundll32.exe ieframe.dll, DoOrganizeFavDlg
According to Microsoft there is a patch that fixes this issue.

Edited by CEoCEo, 18 March 2010 - 05:34 AM.

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Yes, that's the information I found also in http://support.micro....com/kb/972582/
I've search the registry for "DoOrganizeFavDlg" but didn't found anything. So I think the call of the "organize favorites"-dialog is fix implemented in the explorer.exe. Not changable via registry-modification.

But in the kb-article I found a hint about the version of Shdocvw.dll which should fix this problem: 6.0.2900.5832

I'm not at home at the moment the check the installed version of Shdocvw.dll from a HFSLIP-XP-Installation. Probably another one can check if the most recent version of Shdocvw.dll is installed! Posted Image

CU, Mimo

-- edit --
I've checked it now at home: I have 6.0.2900.2987 installed. It's not the current version.

But I'm a little but surprised about the big step of the build-number from 2987 to 5832.

In MS09-054 it was written that 972582 (which fixes this bug) is included in MS09-054. MS09-054 was already replaced. But I think the latest Cumulative Sec Upd for IE should also have the newest Shdocvw.dll.

-- edit 2 --

Looked at this pages:
http://thehotfixshar...showtopic=13670
When IE8 is installed the newest shdocvw.dll will not be updated Posted Image

For information:
http://www.mskbfiles...shdocvw.dll.php

So, what shall we do? For me it seems we have to do further actions to install it. Probably HFSLIP can handle this or probably we can make a CAB or so to include it.
Hmmm...

-- edit 3 --

A way to a solution:

shdocvw.dll is NOT included in the IE8-version of MS10-002!!! Posted Image

I've extracted the shdocvw.dll (5921) from the IE6!!!-version of MS10-002 and replaced the existing shdocvw.dll (2897). After confirming the system-file-protection-question, registering the new dll and restarting the system I've got a working "organize favorites" called trom the windows explorer! Posted Image

But how to do it automatically? Using a CAB with the dll + inf inside? Using the REPLACE-folder? Any ideas? Posted Image

Edited by Mim0, 18 March 2010 - 10:23 AM.


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aj - if you install IE8 on top of what was slipstreamed, does that error still happen?


I'm sorry I kept you waiting tommyp.
I installed IE8 on top of the slipstreamed copy and it didn't help just as CEoCEo said and I'm glad Mim0 came up with a solution.

Thanks all of you for your efforts :D

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Thanks for the investigation mimo. I was mentally preparing myself to redo the ie8 slipstream in its entirety. But you saved the day by IDing the error. Now, it seems that we have a msft messup on our hands. We've had plenty of msft messups before. I have to think of a way to codify things.
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I had a dumb idea that seems to work. The way HFSLIP processes the IE8 slipstreaming is as follows. It extracts the installer and all the IE8 hotfixes. It places all those into a subfolder. Next, hfslip parses the rest of the hotfixes and puts them into another folder (i386e). After all the hotfixes are processed, hfslip takes the IE8 stuff and overwrites everything in the i386e folder. So, if the OS is looking for a component of the old IE6, then we'll force feed it. From my limited research, it seems that msft is trying to segregate IE from the OS. The file that mimo found seems to be a key one.

To get the organize favorites to work, add the MS10-002 IE6/XPSP3 hotfix to the HF folder. I have run this in combination of slipstreaming IE8. Things seem to work.

Can anyone else confirm?

[Mimo - you're the man. Thanks for your help!]
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hehehe...

During walking with our dog I decided to put a workaround in my list and the file-checker. I just uploaded this a few seconds ago before reading this! :D (see my list)

If are any confirmations for this, I will change my list (again ;) ).

CU...

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So just to be clear, tommyp says to add the MS10-002 IE6/XPSP3 hotfix to the HF folder, and Mim0 says to extract shdocvw.dll from WindowsXP-KB978207-x86-ENU.exe and compress it with makecab.exe and put it in the REPLACE\I386 folder. Either way works? Will Mim0's file checker pick up either implementation correctly? tommyp's way seems easier, but Mim0's way seems "cleaner". I know the intention and end result should be the same. Can we get a unified consensus? And dumb question, I assume this applies to the use of the 1.7.9 version of HFSLIP in addition to the latest test release?

Cheers and Regards

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Both will yield the same results. I prefer to get my binaries from msft and not from someone else. I'm not knocking mimo, but it's just my preference. It ain't the end of the world, it's a mistake that msft made. They've made plenty of them. You'd think a big corporation like msft will have checks and balances for this stuff.
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Mimo,
I prefer tommyp's method for it's simplicity. I tried, but cannot make mimo's way work - for it I would need some additional instructions as I have not been able to Extract the .dll from the .exe

Thanks, Lilla

Edited by Lilla, 19 March 2010 - 04:11 PM.


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So just to be clear, tommyp says to add the MS10-002 IE6/XPSP3 hotfix to the HF folder, and Mim0 says to extract shdocvw.dll from WindowsXP-KB978207-x86-ENU.exe and compress it with makecab.exe and put it in the REPLACE\I386 folder. Either way works? Will Mim0's file checker pick up either implementation correctly? tommyp's way seems easier, but Mim0's way seems "cleaner". I know the intention and end result should be the same. Can we get a unified consensus? And dumb question, I assume this applies to the use of the 1.7.9 version of HFSLIP in addition to the latest test release?

That was my idea before reading tommy's post. I've tested it and it works. I've added my first working approach also to the file-checker.


Both will yield the same results. I prefer to get my binaries from msft and not from someone else. I'm not knocking mimo, but it's just my preference. It ain't the end of the world, it's a mistake that msft made. They've made plenty of them. You'd think a big corporation like msft will have checks and balances for this stuff.

I put a link to the original MS-download not to another download-source. Posted Image

Mimo,
I prefer tommyp's method for it's simplicity. I tried, but cannot make mimo's way work - for it I would need some additional instructions as I have not been able to Extract the .dll from the .exe

use the commandline-parameter "/X:path", where "path" is the destination-folder for extraction.

Again, my way was my first idea, before reading tommy's solution. Of course it's easer to put the update as it is instead of extracting the update and compressing the shdocvw.dll.

Is tommy's idea working? Then I change my list!

CU & good night! Posted Image

--edit--

tommy's method is working also. I add this info...

Edited by Mim0, 21 March 2010 - 11:02 PM.


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http://www.msfn.org/...esh-install-xp/

It might be a problem in my pc, becuase I downloaded FDV file set from another PC and it is fine.
I will redownload all the package and try again in other pc.
I used WinXP with all patches to do the hfslip.
I found another issue with my current hfslipped installation. I created two accounts while doing the installation: acctA, acctB, but when I start the system, and login in with any accoutn, there is no password needed. I have manually confige these two account to use password. Then I logged out, and click any of the account name, the passsword input edit box appeared, but couln't input anything in the box, there is no cursor in the box. then I pressed Ctrl-Alt-Del and get to classic login window, in where I can input password. and I logged in. Then I found out if I logout with switch user to other account, and Ctrl-Alt-Del and login, and logout with switch user, now I can input password in the password input box. after that the login window start working.

I re-downloaded all the fixes and redo the slip in a fresh installed another PC. The problem of "can't find wucltui.dll" is gone.
but there still has the issue of not able to input password in the login window.
And also there is no quick launch when first boot up, I have to enable quick launch, and then I will get desktop icons back.

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tommyp and/or fdv:

In case you haven't had a chance to check out Geej's thread, Defraging sysoc.inf in your SOURCESS, there might be something there worth including in the next test release of HFSLIP, or not ... You guys are definitely the experts, but we'd appreciate your thoughts when you get a chance.

Cheers and Regards

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The "fragged" sysoc.inf works fine and has been working fine since the inception of hfslip. Honestly, I don't see the point of defragging it. I suppose it could be good for users, and if it's good, they can incorporate their own hftools\post cmd file.
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Is the logon/password issue still there if you don't slip IE8?
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