[tommyp]

TC - 318G - verified the following: hfcleanup/hfexpert and hfslip easter egg. Both are good. I have to verify with a HFDRV set.

Tain/TC - I think this will help. There is a txtsetup.sif command to say that the file that is on the CD isn't compressed. Check this out. http://gosh.msfnhost...om/txtsetup.htm Look at the _X part. I think (or hope?) this is relatively easy to incorporate into the script. This was lifted out of the 2k txtsetup.sif
autochk.exe = 2,,,,,,_x,2,0,0
The file is uncompressed, the _x tells the installer that the file is uncompressed. Hope this helps....

[tain]

Good find! Gosh put out some great info...too bad he is MIA. Speaking of MIA...FDV and Oleg are sorely missed :/
And what about C&B, saugatak, Dirtwarrrior, and Bilou? Did we scare them away?

This post has been edited by TAiN: 18 March 2006 - 03:55 PM

[Super-Magician]

FDV is here once in a while. But the rest are indeed MIA.

[Tomcat76]

If dosnet.inf wasn't an issue then 18f would've worked the same as 18g. I'll base the next tests on 18f then.

CPI/CPL...
You know... A while ago I changed the code to leave both CPI and CPL files extracted. But then I figured it would be better to compress one of the two again and I picked CPL... for these reasons:
1) There's no point in keeping both uncompressed
2) I believe all MS *.CP_ files are CPL files so it's better to overwrite them instead of creating duplicates (eg whatever.cp_ and whatever.cpl)

But apparantly Windows setup is too stupid to see the difference between myuninst.cp_ and myuninst.cpi...

I see two options:

1) Extract all *.CP_ files (even those from the source) and leave them like that

2) Try what Tommy suggests with the _x thing in txtsetup.sif (this I can't do in HFAAO)

This post has been edited by Tomcat76: 18 March 2006 - 04:20 PM

[tain]

Option 2 sounds more prudent to me.
Is it even an issue with HFAAO? I didn't think that they were processed until later...

This post has been edited by TAiN: 18 March 2006 - 04:43 PM

[Tomcat76]

HFAAO is parsed before the source gets copied. You can try a few CPL addons if you like just to see if a fix is needed there as well. But, as said, it's too complicated to do the _x fix for addons.

Version 18h debuts the _x fix for CPI files in HFEXPERT\WIN\SYSTEM32.


Edit: it shouldn't be an issue for addons; CPL and CPI files are named differently so there's nothing for Windows setup to get confused with.

This post has been edited by Tomcat76: 18 March 2006 - 05:09 PM

[tain]

Woohoo!

60318H-expert slipstreamed great with HFEXPERT/WIN/* and HFCLEANUP...and even the control panel additions work! /SYSTEM32 and HFAAO control panel files are all working properly now.

You guys RULE!

[Tomcat76]

Glad we could fix this within 24 hours, hahaha!

[tain]

Well, its been about 18 hours since I cried about anything so how about another feature suggestion?

I've noticed a few things happen when users have trouble. They/we:
-Don't post an error_report
-Put the text of error_report into their post
-Need to add another file that is requested by the devs

Maybe it would be easier if HFSLIP output an ERROR_REPORT.ZIP (or CAB) that contained:

-ERROR_REPORT.TXT
-HFSLIPWU.INF

And maybe even:

-TXTSETUP.SIF
-DRVINDEX.INF

But that may make a large zip. DRVINDEX isn't too bad, but TXTSETUP.SIF tends to be quite large even though text files compress well.

Anyway, this takes a few steps out of the user's hand and they can "just attach the zip."

[fdv]

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Good find! Gosh put out some great info...too bad he is MIA. Speaking of MIA...FDV and Oleg are sorely missed :/
And what about C&B, saugatak, Dirtwarrrior, and Bilou? Did we scare them away?

Gosh was a she, BTW. To be sorta sexist (maybe?), female contributors on MSFN are rare to be sure. The only other one we have now and again is Wendy (OS2FAN2).
I'm around now and again as Super-Magician notes, but in a technical thread like this you've gotta remember that this is script-heavy, new-feature testing stuff, which is rare for me to participate in anyway... I have cruised Oleg_II's site and have not heard from him since like February. He appears quite gone to me, unfortunately. I hope he resurfaces.
I have been busy mostly with Windows 2003. Many of my test installs just die right after filecopy. I have had the modded setupapi for a while but I see I should have released instructions on it, so I have written them finally.
Ok, I'm gonna go back to plugging away again.

Random: I recommend the DVD "Primer" to you all. It's a great techie film about the head games that happen between two engineers when they accidentally create a time machine (it's not cheesy like Back to the Future or anything, it's really good!)

[tain]

Always good to hear from you, FDV

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Gosh was a she, BTW. To be sorta sexist (maybe?), female contributors on MSFN are rare to be sure.

Its funny how most Americans are naturally sexist; we usually bias towards males. I was in class the other night and my instructor, a PHD-seeking female, kept referring to third parties with male pronouns.

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I have cruised Oleg_II's site and have not heard from him since like February.

OlegII has a site? URL please? From his profile:

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Last Active 12th February 2006 - 03:15 AM

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Home Page No Information

I'm glad to hear that you are making progress on 2k3. I, for one, will be clamoring for it in a year or so whenever some killer-app comes out that won't run on 2k.

[fdv]

Oleg_II's site is here: http://kitaist.com/

about future apps for windows. maybe this is too much speculation... but i read (and i do not have the url handy) that Win FX is just add-on to Vista, and so is Framework... meaning no part of Vista is written natively in Framework or Win FX. anyone know if this is true? if so, it would mean that most apps will probably continue to be written in the same nt 5.1 API as 2003 and xp apps, right?

[Tomcat76]

For those using the test builds...
A problem was introduced yesterday that prevents subdirectories of HFEXPERT\WIN\SYSTEM32 (eg, DRIVERS) from being processed. That's fixed in 60319a.

[tain]

fdv, on Mar 19 2006, 09:54 PM, said:

Oleg_II's site is here: http://kitaist.com/

Doh! In Russky. This version says it is a commerce site.

fdv, on Mar 19 2006, 09:54 PM, said:

about future apps for windows. maybe this is too much speculation... but i read (and i do not have the url handy) that Win FX is just add-on to Vista, and so is Framework... meaning no part of Vista is written natively in Framework or Win FX. anyone know if this is true?

Wikipedia says that WinFX is integral. Perhaps you are referring to WinFS, which was to be integral but was recently dropped. I heard that it will be an addon.

This post has been edited by TAiN: 20 March 2006 - 05:47 AM

[tain]

Tomcat76, on Mar 19 2006, 11:06 PM, said:

For those using the test builds...
A problem was introduced yesterday that prevents subdirectories of HFEXPERT\WIN\SYSTEM32 (eg, DRIVERS) from being processed. That's fixed in 60319a.

processed = copied over, right? No other processing (like CODECS)?

[Tomcat76]

Just so we're on the same level...

HFEXPERT\CODECS = copied over; txtsetup.sif & dosnet.inf updated; all files except exe and cpl registered

HFEXPERT\WIN = copied over; txtsetup.sif & dosnet.inf updated

HFEXPERT\APPREPLACEMENT = copied over


I'm gonna add *.CPI to the list of files not to be registered in the HFEXPERT\CODECS section just in case people still put those files in there.

[Super-Magician]

fdv, your page on HFSLIP for XP/2003 now says "updated on March 20, 2005", but it is 2006 .

By the way, what did you update on that page?

This post has been edited by Super-Magician: 20 March 2006 - 08:07 AM

[tain]

Tomcat76, on Mar 20 2006, 09:03 AM, said:

Just so we're on the same level...

HFEXPERT\CODECS = copied over; txtsetup.sif & dosnet.inf updated; all files except exe and cpl registered

HFEXPERT\WIN = copied over; txtsetup.sif & dosnet.inf updated

HFEXPERT\APPREPLACEMENT = copied over

Yeah, my last post was still vague

How about this for even more fidelity:

HFEXPERT\CODECS\ = copied over; txtsetup.sif & dosnet.inf updated; all files except exe and cpl registered

HFEXPERT\WIN\* = copied over; txtsetup.sif & dosnet.inf updated

HFEXPERT\APPREPLACEMENT\ = copied over

HFEXPERT\WIN\ is the only one that will use subfolders, right?

[Tomcat76]

@Super-Magician: He finally changed "Windows Server 2002" to "Windows Server 2003"...

@TAiN: Right now, yes. I was thinking of asking TommyP to allow subfolders in APPREPLACEMENT.

This post has been edited by Tomcat76: 20 March 2006 - 08:12 AM

[tain]

Tomcat76, on Mar 20 2006, 09:11 AM, said:

@TAiN: Right now, yes. I was thinking of asking TommyP to allow subfolders in APPREPLACEMENT.

Hmmm...how would that be used? Where would the folders go? 'program files'?