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#1121 User is offline   NtegrA 

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 08:24 AM

AAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!! :wacko: :}

Sorry, can't think of anything else to say (heh). Actually the 1.0.1 Final is not working for me either. I am now pulling out dotnetfx1 from HFSVCPACK as that is the ONLY change that "I" made between the working and non-working builds (besides HFs of course).

Oh wanna here somethin else? <- rhetorical cuz I'mma tell ya anyways.... IE also disapeared on the bad runs. Don't know about the executable, but all icons for IE were missing after final reboot (just noticed that one!).

UPDATE: Well, it isn't the dotnetfx1 inclusion, removal of it changed nothing. Attached are hfslip.log and hfslipwu.inf of 1.0.1 build. Hopefully you can see something. I will try pulling out MP10 from slipstream to see what's up.

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#1122 User is offline   tain 

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 09:48 AM

View PostKiki Burgh, on Oct 23 2006, 03:49 PM, said:

View PostTAiN, on Oct 22 2006, 01:38 AM, said:

@Kiki: Tomcat76 repackaged RogueSpear's VMWareTools switchless installer so that it is more compatibile with HFSVCPACK. You can download that version here. It is working well for me so far.
thanks for this Tain & TC! :)
Please note that I have had one problem with this installer. I use HFCLEANUP to remove lots of stuff. VMWareTools was stopping my installs because it needed the HTML help subsystem. I am probably the only weirdo that this problem applies to :lol:

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 12:08 PM

@TAiN:
Basically, I made the installer for nothing... :)

@NtegrA:
Please remove at least these:
gdidettool.exe (blocked)
scripten.exe (you have the newest version too)
Windows-KB890830-V1.14.exe (you have the newest version too)
Windows-KB890830-V1.19.exe (you have the newest version too)

If that doesn't help, remove ALL hotfixes that aren't on MY list.

@Kiki:
Don't delete the CATs and remove these:
SFC_OS.DL_ (from FIX)
gdidettool.exe (blocked)
every hotfix that isn't on my list (including the Sri Lanka timezone update)

What you should know is that HFSLIP used to put most hotfix binaries on the CD, but only those which are also in "officially supported" hotfixes were copied to the hard disk during Windows setup. The current versions DO copy most files to hard disk during Windows installation. So if a hotfix adds blahblah.exe, 60810 would put it on the CD but it was never copied during Windows installation because none of the "officially supported" hotfixes contain such a file. HFSLIP 1.0, however, makes Windows setup copy it to the hard disk, into SYSTEM32.

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 12:20 PM

No, your installer is *more compatible* with HFSLIP/HFSVCPACK, just that my peculiar config choked on it. I plan to leave your installer as the one hosted.

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 01:21 PM

View PostTomcat76, on Oct 25 2006, 02:08 AM, said:

@Kiki:
Don't delete the CATs and remove these:
SFC_OS.DL_ (from FIX)
gdidettool.exe (blocked)
every hotfix that isn't on my list (including the Sri Lanka timezone update)

What you should know is that HFSLIP used to put most hotfix binaries on the CD, but only those which are also in "officially supported" hotfixes were copied to the hard disk during Windows setup. The current versions DO copy most files to hard disk during Windows installation. So if a hotfix adds blahblah.exe, 60810 would put it on the CD but it was never copied during Windows installation because none of the "officially supported" hotfixes contain such a file. HFSLIP 1.0, however, makes Windows setup copy it to the hard disk, into SYSTEM32.
thanks TC! i will follow as directed ... ;) in some other runs though i have already removed all Sep & Oct HFs + WMP HFs too + gdidetool (although i have not removed SFC_OS.DL_ yet) & still the result was the same ... what puzzles me is this used to work with earlier versions! so what stumps me really is how come it does not anymore ... :wacko:

what's even sadder is i won't be able to do some tests for the time being as my temporary resolution to my PC prob has lapsed (i just actually borrowed my sister's processor but she already took it back :( ) ... i hate it when i cannot report results to you guys ... :(

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 07:22 PM

Tomcat, can you provide support for Windows Defender (final) if it is not yet supported? I think I read something somewhere about MSI files but I'm too lazy to look :P.

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 07:06 AM

View PostTomcat76, on Oct 24 2006, 01:08 PM, said:

@NtegrA:
Please remove at least these:
gdidettool.exe (blocked)
scripten.exe (you have the newest version too)
Windows-KB890830-V1.14.exe (you have the newest version too)
Windows-KB890830-V1.19.exe (you have the newest version too)

If that doesn't help, remove ALL hotfixes that aren't on MY list.
Ahhh well, after removing the above and misc hotfixes, the conclusion is that 1.00b-61004b is the last working build for me. Hmmm. I still need to try removing MP10Setup.....

UPDATE:
removal of MP10SETUP (also removal of MP10 HFs) build goes perfect for 1.0.1....
Put MP10SETUP back in HF, "Files needed" dialog looking for WMLAUNCH.EXE

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 02:34 PM

@Super-Magician...

If it's a regular MSI file, you can get away with it by dumping it in HFSVCPACK_SW. Any MSI file in that folder will be installed silently at T-13 using the /qn /norestart switches.


@NtegrA...

Something strange is going on there. Do you have the CD tag (WIN51 in your case) in the root of the CD from which you are installing?

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 03:07 PM

View PostTomcat76, on Oct 25 2006, 03:34 PM, said:

@NtegrA...

Something strange is going on there. Do you have the CD tag (WIN51 in your case) in the root of the CD from which you are installing?
heh. your telling me....I do have the CD tag, one thing though, I'm one of those that are running this from a network share instead of a CD. Never been a problem (for the most part) in the past. Any path logic change in the script?

Another strange thing, if I pull out MP10SETUP, but stick in windowsmedia10-kb917734-x86-enu.EXE. I get popup for missing file "MSOOBCI.DLL"

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 06:32 PM

Tomcat76, can you recommend a directx october and messenger 8.0 addons that works in server 2003?
i have one that doesn´t work...

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 08:52 PM

View PostNtegrA, on Oct 25 2006, 11:07 PM, said:

I do have the CD tag, one thing though, I'm one of those that are running this from a network share instead of a CD. Never been a problem (for the most part) in the past. Any path logic change in the script?
Well... yeah. The early test releases for HFSLIP 1.0 (including the one that "works" according to you) used to instruct Windows to copy the files that should end up in Program Files to the hard disk first, during text-mode copy. They are placed into a Windows Setup temporary folder, the one that's reflected in the screenshot of the error message you got. Another INF copied them into the final destination at about T-25. During my tests from CD and in a VM, I found out that it wasn't necessary to have them copied over into the temporary location at the beginning of Windows setup as the extra INF is configured to pick them up from the CD directly. I had no idea this would break a network install.

View PostNtegrA, on Oct 25 2006, 11:07 PM, said:

Another strange thing, if I pull out MP10SETUP, but stick in windowsmedia10-kb917734-x86-enu.EXE. I get popup for missing file "MSOOBCI.DLL"
My guess is that the "msoobci.dll" error is coming from wmfdist95.exe as it is handled in the same way as WMP 10.

I'll come up with a new test release :)


View Postgeese howard, on Oct 26 2006, 02:32 AM, said:

Tomcat76, can you recommend a directx october and messenger 8.0 addons that works in server 2003?
i have one that doesn´t work...
An addon for DirectX? HFSLIP can slipstream these DX components on Server 2K3:
- DX 9.0c core (BDAXP.cab and dxnt.cab)
- the *d3dx9*x86* cab files (optional binaries used by some games)
- the *input* and *xact* cab files (current usage unknown to me)

The DX9.0c core files can be obtained from the standard DX9.0c release as well as all the updates as they were never updated thus far. The others are to be taken from the October release (if you want to have the latest versions). These cabs should be placed in HFCABS.

If you need more than this, you'll have to find an addon but I don't know of any that's modded to do a proper installation on 2K3.

Messenger...
Same thing: I don't know of any addon. But if Messenger 8.0 can be installed on 2K3 at all, you can try this:
1) Download the Live Messenger program
2) Extract it and place MsnMsgs.msi into HFSVCPACK_SW
3) I'm not 100% sure but you may need wllogin.msi as well; Messenger appeared to be working fine without it on an XP test install, though

Hope this helps... :)

#1132 User is offline   NtegrA 

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 09:29 PM

View PostTomcat76, on Oct 25 2006, 09:52 PM, said:

I had no idea this would break a network install.

I'll come up with a new test release :)
No rest for the wicked (you naughty naughty boy :D )
I know you guys have said that network installs were never supported, but it has always been appreciated when you make the effort anyways! :thumbup (Above and Beyond till the end) :thumbup

In an attempt to shove you over the edge...Any chance in this LITTLE addition? Version info:whistle:

Feel free to slap me when you feel the pressure coming on...

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 09:51 PM

slap :)

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 05:44 AM

@Tomcat, when are you planning on updating your signature? :whistle:

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 10:36 AM

View PostSuper-Magician, on Oct 26 2006, 01:44 PM, said:

@Tomcat, when are you planning on updating your signature? :whistle:
While there's a new test release? :)

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 11:32 AM

Thanks TC. Will let you know the results in a few hours

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 02:44 PM

View PostTomcat76, on Oct 26 2006, 01:36 PM, said:

View PostSuper-Magician, on Oct 26 2006, 01:44 PM, said:

@Tomcat, when are you planning on updating your signature? :whistle:
While there's a new test release? :)

I think he means for the updated section for xp sp1 updates for the finals.

the_guy

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 06:30 PM

Well, what can I say???? Everything appears to be working again. :thumbup

Current try was on a VM through a VPN connection (The build time actually put me to sleep), so I will try again first thing in the morning on real hardware.

Extra special thanks for the big addition.

Again slap at will

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 06:48 PM

View Postthe_guy, on Oct 26 2006, 04:44 PM, said:

View PostTomcat76, on Oct 26 2006, 01:36 PM, said:

View PostSuper-Magician, on Oct 26 2006, 01:44 PM, said:

@Tomcat, when are you planning on updating your signature? :whistle:
While there's a new test release? :)

I think he means for the updated section for xp sp1 updates for the finals.

the_guy

That's right. The XP SP1 updates are still dated 09-30-2006. Also, why are the beta lists still there?

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 06:51 PM

Hmmm... I really have no idea what you guys are talking about... :D


@NtegrA: No problem. Glad it's working again for you :)

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