[tain]

Always good to hear from you, FDV

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Gosh was a she, BTW. To be sorta sexist (maybe?), female contributors on MSFN are rare to be sure.

Its funny how most Americans are naturally sexist; we usually bias towards males. I was in class the other night and my instructor, a PHD-seeking female, kept referring to third parties with male pronouns.

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I have cruised Oleg_II's site and have not heard from him since like February.

OlegII has a site? URL please? From his profile:

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Last Active 12th February 2006 - 03:15 AM

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Home Page No Information

I'm glad to hear that you are making progress on 2k3. I, for one, will be clamoring for it in a year or so whenever some killer-app comes out that won't run on 2k.

[fdv]

Oleg_II's site is here: http://kitaist.com/

about future apps for windows. maybe this is too much speculation... but i read (and i do not have the url handy) that Win FX is just add-on to Vista, and so is Framework... meaning no part of Vista is written natively in Framework or Win FX. anyone know if this is true? if so, it would mean that most apps will probably continue to be written in the same nt 5.1 API as 2003 and xp apps, right?

[Tomcat76]

For those using the test builds...
A problem was introduced yesterday that prevents subdirectories of HFEXPERT\WIN\SYSTEM32 (eg, DRIVERS) from being processed. That's fixed in 60319a.

[tain]

fdv, on Mar 19 2006, 09:54 PM, said:

Oleg_II's site is here: http://kitaist.com/

Doh! In Russky. This version says it is a commerce site.

fdv, on Mar 19 2006, 09:54 PM, said:

about future apps for windows. maybe this is too much speculation... but i read (and i do not have the url handy) that Win FX is just add-on to Vista, and so is Framework... meaning no part of Vista is written natively in Framework or Win FX. anyone know if this is true?

Wikipedia says that WinFX is integral. Perhaps you are referring to WinFS, which was to be integral but was recently dropped. I heard that it will be an addon.

This post has been edited by TAiN: 20 March 2006 - 05:47 AM

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Tomcat76, on Mar 19 2006, 11:06 PM, said:

For those using the test builds...
A problem was introduced yesterday that prevents subdirectories of HFEXPERT\WIN\SYSTEM32 (eg, DRIVERS) from being processed. That's fixed in 60319a.

processed = copied over, right? No other processing (like CODECS)?

[Tomcat76]

Just so we're on the same level...

HFEXPERT\CODECS = copied over; txtsetup.sif & dosnet.inf updated; all files except exe and cpl registered

HFEXPERT\WIN = copied over; txtsetup.sif & dosnet.inf updated

HFEXPERT\APPREPLACEMENT = copied over


I'm gonna add *.CPI to the list of files not to be registered in the HFEXPERT\CODECS section just in case people still put those files in there.

[Super-Magician]

fdv, your page on HFSLIP for XP/2003 now says "updated on March 20, 2005", but it is 2006 .

By the way, what did you update on that page?

This post has been edited by Super-Magician: 20 March 2006 - 08:07 AM

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Tomcat76, on Mar 20 2006, 09:03 AM, said:

Just so we're on the same level...

HFEXPERT\CODECS = copied over; txtsetup.sif & dosnet.inf updated; all files except exe and cpl registered

HFEXPERT\WIN = copied over; txtsetup.sif & dosnet.inf updated

HFEXPERT\APPREPLACEMENT = copied over

Yeah, my last post was still vague

How about this for even more fidelity:

HFEXPERT\CODECS\ = copied over; txtsetup.sif & dosnet.inf updated; all files except exe and cpl registered

HFEXPERT\WIN\* = copied over; txtsetup.sif & dosnet.inf updated

HFEXPERT\APPREPLACEMENT\ = copied over

HFEXPERT\WIN\ is the only one that will use subfolders, right?

[Tomcat76]

@Super-Magician: He finally changed "Windows Server 2002" to "Windows Server 2003"...

@TAiN: Right now, yes. I was thinking of asking TommyP to allow subfolders in APPREPLACEMENT.

This post has been edited by Tomcat76: 20 March 2006 - 08:12 AM

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Tomcat76, on Mar 20 2006, 09:11 AM, said:

@TAiN: Right now, yes. I was thinking of asking TommyP to allow subfolders in APPREPLACEMENT.

Hmmm...how would that be used? Where would the folders go? 'program files'?

[Tomcat76]

Haha... I wish...

No. Currently, files in APPREPLACEMENT are copied over into I386. I guess it could be expanded to allow replacing files in subfolders of the I386 folder (though I can't think of a practical use for that).

[fdv]

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Super-Magician: fdv, your page on HFSLIP for XP/2003 now says "updated on March 20, 2005", but it is 2006
By the way, what did you update on that page?

thanks for the alert, boy did that look foolish. i updated instructions for modifying 2003's SETUPAPI.DLL as well as a note about HFAAO.

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Tomcat76: He finally changed "Windows Server 2002" to "Windows Server 2003"...

? i don't know what this means

[Super-Magician]

FDV: Do you think you could change the link to Tomcat's XP page to http://users.telenet...nup/_winxp.html? Right now, you have to click twice to reach it.

[question removed; script for removing Windows Messenger reposted below]

-- Super-Magician

This post has been edited by Super-Magician: 20 March 2006 - 04:21 PM

[tommyp]

Windows messenger in 2000? Nope, it's not part of 2000. Windows messenger is bloatware/worthlessware (if there is such a word) that comes prebundled with xp and newer.

[Super-Magician]

Oh, OK then. Didn't realize that. Time to scrap that idea !

tommyp, on Mar 20 2006, 05:05 PM, said:

Windows messenger is bloatware/worthlessware

Of course, that's why I'm removing it .

Hmmm...this thread seems to be getting quite long ...

-- Super-Magician

This post has been edited by Super-Magician: 20 March 2006 - 04:13 PM

[Tomcat76]

I'd rather call it backdoor.MS.msmsgs

I'll take a look at Windows Messenger and if it doesn't take too much time to implement I'll ask TommyP for permission. But don't keep your hopes up...

@fdv: It was a joke inspired by the fact you got a date wrong. Sorry if it didn't come across like that.

This post has been edited by Tomcat76: 20 March 2006 - 04:18 PM

[Super-Magician]

Tomcat76, on Mar 20 2006, 05:17 PM, said:

I'd rather call it backdoor.MS.msmsgs

Haha

Tomcat76, on Mar 20 2006, 05:17 PM, said:

I'll take a look at Windows Messenger and if it doesn't take too much time to implement I'll ask TommyP for permission. But don't keep your hopes up...

OK, great . I accidentally removed the CMD file from my previous message, so I'll repost it here:

@ECHO OFF
CLS
SETLOCAL ENABLEEXTENSIONS ENABLEDELAYEDEXPANSION
TITLE Windows Messenger Removal Script
ECHO.
ECHO Removing Windows Messenger...
START /WAIT RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\inf\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove
ECHO.
ECHO Windows Messenger successfully removed!
GOTO EOF

:EOF

-- Super-Magician

This post has been edited by Super-Magician: 20 March 2006 - 04:24 PM

[tommyp]

There are three options that I see for this.

1. Create an INF file and throw it into the HFSVPK folder.
2. Create a CMD file and throw it into the HFSVPK folder.
3. Why not craft a hfcleanup file to not let it install at all? .... cough cough cough the reducer is already created and available cough cough cough. I hate colds!

[Super-Magician]

Congratulations, tommyp! You're now a "Friend of MSFN" as indicated by your avatar, and you've reached 700 posts...yay!

Anyway, what I used was a CMD file, which I put in HFSVPK. I don't know much about INF files and HFCLEANUP, but maybe option 1 or 3 is easier?

-- Super-Magician

This post has been edited by Super-Magician: 20 March 2006 - 04:38 PM

[Tomcat76]

Oh, you wanted it removed...

You shouldn't edit posts, you know...