[Kiki Burgh]

hi!

i was able to come up w/ a successful build after 3 tries ... the most significant change was the removal of .cab files ...

i'd just like to ask if this has some effect on the build though:

Creating ISO...
G:\HFTOOLS\mkisofs.exe (600): *** Could not create mutex for list synchronisation.

do we need to remove also directx files from the HFCABS folder if already in ryanvm update pack 2.0.6?
in short, anything that is duplicated needs to be removed?

attached is HFSLIP.txt for your reference is needed.

as i understand, HFSLIP actually considers only the latest file version when recompressing, correct?
as such, HFSLIP should just ignore presence of duplicate files, right?
please correct me if i am mistaken.

thanks again!

Attached File(s)

•  HFSLIP.txt (5.04K)
  Number of downloads: 25

[Tomcat76]

Kiki Burgh, on May 19 2006, 06:21 AM, said:

i was able to come up w/ a successful build after 3 tries ... the most significant change was the removal of .cab files ...

CAB files or CAT files?

Kiki Burgh, on May 19 2006, 06:21 AM, said:

G:\HFTOOLS\mkisofs.exe (600): *** Could not create mutex for list synchronisation.

I've really no idea. I never use mkisofs so I don't know this program. TommyP added support for it a long time ago...

Kiki Burgh, on May 19 2006, 06:21 AM, said:

do we need to remove also directx files from the HFCABS folder if already in ryanvm update pack 2.0.6?

It's already at version 2.0.6? Then I better check that it's still working properly in HFSLIP, hehe. I used 2.0.5...

Your file list is getting better. There are still some duplicates. Did you check RVM's list?

You can remove msxmlcab.exe, msxml6.msi, the D3DX9 cabs, swflash.cab and MUWEB_SITE.CAB. At this moment, you don't need LegitCheckControl.cab either I believe. There could still be some hotfixes that you can remove but I didn't verify that.

Are these two different programs?
Addon_LClock_v4w_dgelwin.cab
Addon_LClock_v4_dgelwin.cab

Kiki Burgh, on May 19 2006, 06:21 AM, said:

in short, anything that is duplicated needs to be removed?

Yep.

Kiki Burgh, on May 19 2006, 06:21 AM, said:

as i understand, HFSLIP actually considers only the latest file version when recompressing, correct?
as such, HFSLIP should just ignore presence of duplicate files, right?

Not exactly. If there are files with identical names then the latest will be used. But SYSOC.INF or SVCPACK.INF will install the program more than once (once per addon). This isn't necessarily problematic but it can be. It's best not to try that out.

This post has been edited by Tomcat76: 19 May 2006 - 02:11 AM

[Kiki Burgh]

hi Tomcat!

Tomcat76, on May 19 2006, 04:03 PM, said:

CAB files or CAT files?

oops ... i'm sorry ... CAT it is!

Tomcat76, on May 19 2006, 04:03 PM, said:

It's already at version 2.0.6? Then I better check that it's still working properly in HFSLIP, hehe. I used 2.0.5...

he! he!

Tomcat76, on May 19 2006, 04:03 PM, said:

Your file list is getting better. There are still some duplicates. Did you check RVM's list?

You can remove msxmlcab.exe, msxml6.msi, the D3DX9 cabs, swflash.cab and MUWEB_SITE.CAB. At this moment, you don't need LegitCheckControl.cab either I believe. There could still be some hotfixes that you can remove but I didn't verify that.

yup i did check the list but i focused more on the KBs ... as for the rest, they've been sitting in the folders eversince (mostly those in the HFCABS

Tomcat76, on May 19 2006, 04:03 PM, said:

Are these two different programs?
Addon_LClock_v4w_dgelwin.cab
Addon_LClock_v4_dgelwin.cab

yes sir ...

TC, pardon me for asking but will HFSLIP eventually come to completely support RyanVM update addon?
Honestly, I do not have anything against it. In fact, it helps us getting just 1 big chunk than having to download each hotfixes (that apply to our systems). (It is helpful RyanVM! ) However, this brings me to the next question about the path HFSLIP will thread ... having everything done the HFSLIP way!
On the other hand, should HFSLIP completely welcome the use of the update pack (& some others), perhaps we can request RyanVM (& the other creators) to consider HFSLIP's processes & requirements when coming up w/ update addons for best compatibility purposes!

Sir(s), again from my end ... however or whichever way you guys decide to bring HFSLIP ... i will support it! It will just be a matter of getting/using the resources for coming up w/ successful builds!

btw sir, in some other builds i experimented on, i tried adding regular .exe installers in the HFSVCPACK FOLDERS & until now i've been observing their functions in the GUI already & i see nothing wrong ... they install at T-13 & completes successfully ... and works fine while in the OS already ! anything bad about doing this?

Thanks!

This post has been edited by Kiki Burgh: 19 May 2006 - 03:08 AM

[Tomcat76]

Kiki Burgh, on May 19 2006, 10:54 AM, said:

TC, pardon me for asking but will HFSLIP eventually come to completely support RyanVM update addon?

It is supposed to be supported completely. Your CAT problem seems to be unique. The only part that isn't covered is the removal of duplicate driver binaries but that's "corrected" with DBLBINXP.EXT.

Kiki Burgh, on May 19 2006, 10:54 AM, said:

btw sir, in some other builds i experimented on, i tried adding regular .exe installers in the HFSVCPACK FOLDERS & until now i've been observing their functions in the GUI already & i see nothing wrong ... they install at T-13 & completes successfully ... and works fine while in the OS already ! anything bad about doing this?

Not that I can see. But you're lucky... XP is "better" than 2000 at letting you install things at T-13 but it's still not perfect; some programs (like MDAC_TYP.EXE) just won't install at T-13.

[Axed]

KiKi, im sorry if this has been covered before, but why are you using hfslip at all if your going to use the RVM Pack? Most, if not all of the updates covered by hfslip would already be in the RVM pack i would have thought?

Dont get me wrong, its great your testing hfslip because they can always use more testers, but i was wondering. Personally, the reason i use hfslip is so i dont have to use the RVM pack.

[Tomcat76]

If you're just into adding "all" hotfixes then you can do with the RVM Integrator in this particular case. But HFSLIP can do much more than adding hotfixes.

This post has been edited by Tomcat76: 19 May 2006 - 06:02 AM

[Axed]

Good point TC. Maybe im just slow, but for some reason i didnt think of the extra features like adding in codecs automagically, easy appreplacements, etc when it came to XP. I think i've been fiddling with Win2k to much!

[JADGuerzoni]

Hi, I think I have put my post in the wrong plance and this is the better one. There is a little problem with sliplstream of KB897338 for non-US Windows, because this hotfix change the default value (in INTL.INF, sectio [Defaultvalue]) of locale to 00000409, this make the UWCD useless for atualization and give conflict of idiom. I think it would not dificult to implement a correction in batch file for non US to return the original value. I have slipstreamed with and without this hotfix and the problem occur only with it (by the way I´m using the HFSLIP_60518a version)

[heisking]

When I run HFSLIP_60518b with files in the HFEXPERT\WIN subfolders, the files do not get installed. This is what is put into TXTSETUP.SIF:

[WinntDirectories]
1101 = "PCHEALTH\HELPCTR\BATCH"

[SourceDisksFiles]
cmdow.exe = 1,,,,,,,2,0,0
sifdir,0,0
sifdir,0,0
sifdir,0,0

As you can see the directory is identified but the file output is sifdir,0,0. They are correct in DOSNET.INF.

Also on line 2359 is the following command, DEL/Q/F DRV.TXT. This causes an error when HFSLIP is running as there is no other reference to DRV.TXT in the command file.

[Super-Magician]

heisking: Can you attach your log file or tell us the directory/file structure of your HFEXPERT folders?

The sifdir variable is part of the HFEXPERT script section in HFSLIP. However, it is not supposed to be added to TXTSETUP.SIF, of course. There may be something wrong with the structure of your folders.

[Tomcat76]

That's a strange problem, heisking. I placed a file in HFEXPERT\WIN\PCHEALTH\HELPCTR\BATCH and let HFSLIP do its thing. The filename was entered into TXTSETUP.SIF correctly.

As Super-Magician said, could you attach your zipped HFSLIP.LOG file? Thanks...

[heisking]

TC
Here is the zipped HFSLIP.LOG file.



 HFSLIP.zip (2.02K)
Number of downloads: 50

[Tomcat76]

I've no idea how to handle file names that start with an exclamation mark in this context. Maybe Yzöwl knows this. Would it be a problem to use an underscore or something else instead?

[Yzöwl]

You would really need to turn off the delayed expansion. It may be possible to toggle off, then back on again, where required.

I would suggest you don't, not due to any difficulty, more to do with the principal. It's a similar thing to the expand and %xpand% thing we went through recently. The script is already at a stage where it needs constant update in order to remain current. It cannot be expected to cater for people using !obscure! (non-standard), naming conventions.

Whenever you work with files using command scripts and delayed expansion you expect this to happen. The script writer due to the unexpected expansion of the project, didn't forsee the introduction of 3rd party files and therefore the problem occurs. It will take considerably more work to fix at the script end than it will for the complainant to rename their own files.

[Super-Magician]

What exactly does the ENABLEDELAYEDEXPANSION thing do?

[Yzöwl]

In simple terms, when a script is invoked, it is read in its entirety prior to execution; (all environment variables are expanded at this time). Delayed expansion means that the environment variable is read when it is reached during execution. A delayed environment variable uses an exclamation mark, as opposed to a percent symbol, hence the problem.

The script has uses delayed expansion, because changes are made to variables within FOR loops. The HFSLP variable is incremented by one for example, meaning that its value is almost dynamic instead of static. When the script is read initially, this 'dynamic' value has not yet been created; therefore in order for it to be used it must be read at execution time.

In order to fix the problem mentioned above, every FOR loop using delayed expansion, would need to make a CALL expand the variable return back.

[Camarade_Tux]

Even though I did use nlite, HFNetChk does not complain about any missing update.
In fact it says blablablaSP1, not SP2, blablabla and 2 files that have file versions greater than expected.



It's maybe the best iso I ever made.
Thanks a lot.

[Tomcat76]

@Camarade_Tux: Which version did you use?


To everyone...
Any new problems with this release? No more updates are planned for the next final release except for a "cosmetic" change in the part that handles HFCLEANUP. This needs to be rounded up as the current final doesn't handle some of the hotfixes that appear on Windows Update.

To check:
- WinXP SP1: when not including MDAC_TYP.EXE and MP10Setup.exe, Windows Update should only propose WMP10 and the Windows XP Documentation Update
- WinXP SP2: RVM Update Pack
- Win2K: Gurgelmeyer's USP5
- application addons
- HFEXPERT

[Camarade_Tux]

Tomcat76, on May 22 2006, 06:28 PM, said:

@Camarade_Tux: Which version did you use?

0521d as far as I remember and HFCleanup (dblinxp.ext I think).

[Kiki Burgh]

Axed, on May 19 2006, 07:31 PM, said:

KiKi, im sorry if this has been covered before, but why are you using hfslip at all if your going to use the RVM Pack? Most, if not all of the updates covered by hfslip would already be in the RVM pack i would have thought?
Dont get me wrong, its great your testing hfslip because they can always use more testers, but i was wondering. Personally, the reason i use hfslip is so i dont have to use the RVM pack.

hi Axed!
i have been using & testing HFSLIP for quite sometime now & (just like the others) i'm trying to see which fits & otherwise ... i believe doing so makes Tomcat & tommyp consider some other ideas ...
everybody's contribution is important to make HFSLIP the best it can be ...
as Tomcat & tommyp know, know that i am all for doing things the HFSLIP way ... & i couldn't agree w/ you more ...
but then again, if it always worth testing HFSLIP!