[tommyp]

If you saw strange characters in control panel, then it is because hfcleanup (current fileset only from Mar 11th or so) isn't being parsed correctly. The old hfcleanup fileset left little to be desired. Delete any reduction files that Oleg2 made and use the ones posted on FDV's site.

[tain]

I'll tackle that after I am done stomping HFEXPERT/WIN.

This post has been edited by TAiN: 18 March 2006 - 09:34 AM

[tain]

Well that was fun

I started with this structure:

-HFEXPERT (just subfolders)
--APPREPLACEMENT (empty)
--WIN (just subfolders)
---CURSORS (just cursors)
---FONTS (just fonts)
---SYSTEM32 (misc stuff)

And then took these steps:
1) Deleted S32 and a similarly dorked TXTSETUP as before.
2) Left S32 out and also deleted CURSORS...similar TXTSETUP as before.
3) Left S32 & CURSORS out and also deleted FONTS...similar TXTSETUP as before.

So for #3, I just had this:

-HFEXPERT (just subfolders)
--APPREPLACEMENT (empty)
--WIN (empty)

And I *STILL* got a dorked TXTSETUP. So then I deleted HFEXPERT *entirely*, even though it just had empty folders, and HFSLIP 18d ran like a charm.

WTFO?

I am pretty sure that I have run this before with just an empty HFEXPERT/APPREPLACEMENT and not had issues, but I will test that now. It looks like the mere presence of an empty HFEXPERT/WIN causes HFSLIP to vomit on screen.

This post has been edited by TAiN: 18 March 2006 - 10:16 AM

[tommyp]

Dumb question, but are you sure that you don't have spaces in in any of the foldernames?

[tain]

There is no such thing as a dumb question with me
I am positive that there are no folders with spaces anywhere in HFEXPERT.

I do have the pleasure of reporting that 18d has fixed the oddly-named control panel entry. Whatever that was, it is gone now. 18d w/o HFEXPERT installed like a dream.

Running HFSLIP with empty HFEXPERT/APPREPLACEMENT now...

This post has been edited by TAiN: 18 March 2006 - 10:38 AM

[tain]

Problem confirmed.

HFSLIP18d=OK
HFSLIP18d+HFEXPERT/APPREPLACEMENT(empty)=OK
HFSLIP18d+HFEXPERT/WIN(empty)=dorked TXTSETUP

So on an otherwise OK config, just adding the HFEXPERT/WIN folder causes TXTSETUP to be completely borked. Error Report/TXTSETUP attached.

Attached File(s)

•  txtsetup.zip (1.48K)
  Number of downloads: 29

This post has been edited by TAiN: 18 March 2006 - 11:13 AM

[Tomcat76]

That's a nice find. If you still get a borked up txtsetup.sif with 18e, I'll do something special.

I'm hungry now so I'll be back in 30 or something.

[Tomcat76]

Here it is anyway: HFSLIP_60318e-expertSP.7z

Edit: see 18f

This post has been edited by Tomcat76: 18 March 2006 - 12:49 PM

[tommyp]

Bad txtsetup. Echo a [SourceDisksFiles] into txtsetup.sif in the first line of the hfcleanup. DOSNET needs lots of love too.

[Tomcat76]

tommyp, on Mar 18 2006, 07:26 PM, said:

Bad txtsetup. Echo a [SourceDisksFiles] into txtsetup.sif in the first line of the hfcleanup.

So I basically remove the "diagnostic" part in front of the existing line?

tommyp, on Mar 18 2006, 07:26 PM, said:

DOSNET needs lots of love too.

You talkin' 'bout hfcleanup?

[tommyp]

Yes, remove the diagnostic part. The dosnet file is pretty much empty. Take a look.

[Tomcat76]

OK... 18f adds the lines into txtsetup.sif and dosnet.inf.

[tain]

I had issues with E but I am now testing F...

This post has been edited by TAiN: 18 March 2006 - 01:17 PM

[Tomcat76]

Which issues? 18f only adds two lines into txtsetup.sif and two more lines into dosnet.inf so it won't make a difference.

[tain]

18E + HFCLEANUP = missing NT5.CAT
Reloading my HFCLEANUP from scratch in case I put one of those HFCLEANUP addons in there and forgot about it. Those things give me nothing but trouble!

But the HFEXPERT/WIN thing seems fixed. Thanks for all the help

This post has been edited by TAiN: 18 March 2006 - 01:25 PM

[Tomcat76]

TAiN, on Mar 18 2006, 08:23 PM, said:

18E + HFCLEANUP = missing NT5.CAT

That *may* have been fixed in 18f.

TAiN, on Mar 18 2006, 08:23 PM, said:

But the HFEXPERT/WIN thing seems fixed. Thanks for all the help

You know... It's strange that you never experienced this problem before, but OK... We're working with Altair Basic here...

This post has been edited by Tomcat76: 18 March 2006 - 01:28 PM

[tommyp]

318F w/hfcleanup+hfexpert -->txtsetup dosnet still needs work, the file begins with the files added by hfcleanup. I'm assuming that there is no dosnet file in the sourcess\i386 folder prior to hfcleanup starting. Dosnet is not used for cd installs, so it doesn't really bother me.

[Tomcat76]

I'm slowly beginning to run out of ideas, hehe.

18g does something (or rather doesn't do something) which I wanted to avoid. But if this fixes the problem with dosnet.inf I don't have a choice...

This post has been edited by Tomcat76: 18 March 2006 - 01:53 PM

[tain]

It looks like we are back on track

Now back to that CPL issue we were working on....

In HFEXPERT/WIN/SYSTEM32 I have:

03/14/2006  10:06p			   4,286 myuninst.cpi
11/25/2001  05:18p			 131,072 myuninst.cpl
05/14/2005  08:02p			  33,792 myuninst.exe

and in SOURCESS after HFSLIP_60318f-expert I get:

03/14/2006  10:06p			   4,286 myuninst.cpi
03/18/2006  02:23p			  53,913 myuninst.cp_
03/18/2006  02:23p			  29,325 myuninst.ex_

But on my installed VMWare system I end up with:

03/18/2006  07:23p			 131,072 myuninst.cpi
03/18/2006  07:23p			 131,072 myuninst.cpl
03/18/2006  07:23p			  33,792 myuninst.exe

The .CPL is getting copied over as the CPI and the CPL. The real CPI is gone.
Would you guys like to address this? If not, I can try to turn this into an addon (which I was considering anyway) and go around the problem.

This post has been edited by TAiN: 18 March 2006 - 02:54 PM

[tommyp]

TC, Sorry about the dosnet thing. It was my error, I was removing that file with hfcleanup. Can you add this into the lower part of the hfcleanup section? (not a critical change at this point because you can't do a dos install with an hfcleanup'd source).
FROM THIS ECHO>>SOURCESS\I386\DOSNET.INF d1,%%I
TO THIS IF EXIST SOURCESS\I386\DOSNET.INF ECHO>>SOURCESS\I386\DOSNET.INF d1,%%I

I just have to test the HFSLIP easter egg out to see if all is OK.