[DigeratiPrime]

I think that english was fine, maybe trouble translating it though

[Jeremy]

Malware/viruses, never.
Updates = RyanVM's Update Pack and AutoPatcher or Jcarle's WUD.
What I meant was, I don't like using other shells because I don't like having to get used to navigation of my PC all over again, when I can just use explorer.exe like I've been using for the past 12 years and know where to go.

This post has been edited by Jeremy: 11 September 2006 - 09:05 AM

[Zxian]

I've just moved to the security-less suite. No firewall, no AV. I've been running this way for a week now without problems. Outpost started giving me problems when I tried to connect to my university servers, so I went to nothing.

[_sergio_]

Now I understand. And it was MY bad english
I can't use RyanVM update pack because there is no portuguese version but i will try to extract some portuguese hotfixes and replace the files on my UACD for the ones in the hotfixes.
And thanks for the info Zxian. Tomorrow I will install it too. Just some final adjustments to reg files and applications. But there is one thing I don't understand: if Remote Registry, Telnet, and more things in XP are bad for security then why are they released? Didn't use Vista and I can't but are these services in Vista?

[Thunderbolt 2864]

I'm currently using BitDefender Internet Security Suite version 10. Problem is I can't get the parental controls working, though I enabled it.

[DigeratiPrime]

if you need good parental controls software for home use check out 'K9 web protection' its free and what i recommend.

[MGadAllah]

well, I reread this thread to determine which one is the best but I can not ans stiill say the same things since last post.

[uid0]

Zxian, on Sep 11 2006, 03:47 PM, said:

I've just moved to the security-less suite. No firewall, no AV. I've been running this way for a week now without problems.

I do the same on one of my machines, but it's one that I don't store data on, don't use for banking, etc. People who know what they're doing can get away with it, but as a mod I'm not sure you should be suggesting this is a good idea, without saying why. People new here might follow by example, and get in trouble.

[Maleko]

As stated b4, usign Sygate, but this is outdated now, as they wer etaken over by symantec...booo...so im currently testing Outpost, and liking it.

[MGadAllah]

Maleko, on Sep 13 2006, 03:53 PM, said:

im currently testing Outpost, and liking it.

can you post later on your setting for best performance?

[Jeremy]

uid0, on Sep 13 2006, 09:30 AM, said:

Zxian, on Sep 11 2006, 03:47 PM, said:

I've just moved to the security-less suite. No firewall, no AV. I've been running this way for a week now without problems.

I do the same on one of my machines, but it's one that I don't store data on, don't use for banking, etc. People who know what they're doing can get away with it, but as a mod I'm not sure you should be suggesting this is a good idea, without saying why. People new here might follow by example, and get in trouble.

He's not suggesting anything. The way you interpret what he says is up to you, not him.

[Zxian]

uid0, on Sep 13 2006, 05:30 AM, said:

I do the same on one of my machines, but it's one that I don't store data on, don't use for banking, etc. People who know what they're doing can get away with it, but as a mod I'm not sure you should be suggesting this is a good idea, without saying why. People new here might follow by example, and get in trouble.

I'm not suggesting that people follow my lead and toss their anti-virus and firewalls out the window - I'm just telling people what I've done.

Security software is really only needed if you think that you're going to make a mistake while on the internet. I've had NOD32 running on my system for a good 2 years now, and it only had to stop one virus - one that was entirely my fault. As for the firewall - I've never really seen Outpost or Sygate block anything deadly serious. The primary use of them was to stop anything from connecting to other computers in the event that my computer was infected, which hasn't been the case.

If you're confident that you have safe internet techniques, then and only then, can you take the risk of running without security software.

[Jeremy]

You know, correct me if I'm wrong, but that really looks like spamming.

[DigeratiPrime]

spam gone

[bledd]

windows sp2 firewall + hardware router, no need for anything else

Zxian, on Sep 11 2006, 03:47 PM, said:

I've just moved to the security-less suite. No firewall, no AV. I've been running this way for a week now without problems. Outpost started giving me problems when I tried to connect to my university servers, so I went to nothing.

no AV, no spyware protection is the way forward

speeeed

[Zxian]

Indeed - speed is good. It just requires not being silly when it comes to browsing the internet.

[uid0]

I used to run an ipcop box in a house I shared. Didn't stop my housemate Alan from picking up everything available, when his pc finally ground to a halt he'd got 22,000 infected files.
I had to run a software firewall just to keep his machine away from mine

Now I usually only run outpost if I'm trying new software, to see if it does anything unexpected. I'd keep it on permanently if I wasn't behind a router though, or if I still shared a subnet with Alan

[PsycoUnc]

lol, I hear ya, I've never been infected, even tho 95% of the time I don't run AV (and never firewall; router plus smart settings is good enough)... tho I've loaded-up my (dam) nephew's puter (on same subnet) with protection, and he still manages (weekly!) to get more infected than a Roadie...
--and guess who gets to mop it all up, over and over?
...
-Finally, his cs started really lagging from infection/corruption, and I refused to do a reinstall for him, so he's learned his lesson and now stays (relatively) clean... avoids warez, spends at least 1/2 sec thinkin bout it before rapid-fire clicking everything in sight, etc...
>;]

[Jeremy]

What programs do you use to clean up his miss?

[SyntaxError]

I use PC-Cillin IS 2006, but I'm going to setup a Smoothwall box if I can find a new socket 370 mobo for my old pc. I'm also behind a Linksys router.

I've tried at least a dozen different firewall apps, and none offer the control of PC-Cillin.