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#1 User is offline   dirtwarrior 

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 08:01 AM

I love windows 2000 but 1 of these is the boot delay where it say loading network settings and so forth. Is there a way to speed up booting in windows 2000?
Another thing that bothers me about windows 2000 is even though I am running 1 gb of ram and I set virtual memory to 0, I get a nag box to reset it higher. If I ignore it,windows will reset it automatically. Can I fix this?
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Posted 20 April 2006 - 08:46 AM

no vitrual memory means when ever your memory usage spike above one gig, the computer is going to complain. unless you have like 2 gig i wouldn't turn off virtual memory, a** the loading network connection, in the control panel go into network connections, at the top choose advanced and then advanced settings, change the binding order so that your primary netowrk card is first and if you have a wireless card that is last, this should help that loading section.

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 09:02 AM

@dirtwarrior
win2k lover's? if yes then same like me :thumbup
if you have a gigs of ram why didn't you disable the kernel paging? so they windows core will stay on memory rather than HDD, there were several registry hack and tweaksoft for this thing, and even nlite has em (on tweak section advance mode)
anyway i have made a pack of win2k gui hack (xp icon, toolbar etc) but i don't have interest with that thing for now (busy with my college works, delphi and visual basic programming, making database related application) so if you want it i can give it to you and then you can continue my works

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 10:14 AM

Dels
I will try. I hope I dont disapoint you. I keep in touch with gurglemeyer with the things I dont understand (which is a lot). But I will work on whatever you send me. I am at OSBA too and these guys seem to know a lot.
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Posted 20 April 2006 - 11:29 AM

@dirt
ok i will sent it via email if i can (hope i didn't lose the pack or i have to repacking my current system files) :D

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 10:02 PM

View PostDels, on Apr 20 2006, 12:29 PM, said:

@dirt
ok i will sent it via email if i can (hope i didn't lose the pack or i have to repacking my current system files) :D

joedurall2003@yahoo.com

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Posted 24 April 2006 - 06:54 AM

At odd times my CPU usage will go up to 100%. And even if I have lots of memory left over I still get a nag.
I have 760 mb of ram left out of 1024 and it wont let me play a cd and serf at the same time :(. I used XP without paging with no problems.
2k would be the bomb if I can get it to boot faster, no nags about page file, and a few other minor things.
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 08:11 AM

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At odd times my CPU usage will go up to 100%. And even if I have lots of memory left over I still get a nag.
I have 760 mb of ram left out of 1024 and it wont let me play a cd and serf at the same time . I used XP without paging with no problems.
2k would be the bomb if I can get it to boot faster, no nags about page file, and a few other minor things.

this is why the reason why windows 2000 is not for gaming-use, it has a bug (which can't be fixed i think or M$ too lazy to fix it?) in virtual memory things, in otherhand M$ seem improve/fixed this on server and advance server edition of windows 2000 (who need it if you just a home user???)

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Posted 24 April 2006 - 02:16 PM

HMMMM this was fixed in server edition but not in pro. Well maybe some simple dll changes maybe?

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 04:41 AM

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HMMMM this was fixed in server edition but not in pro. Well maybe some simple dll changes maybe?

yes it fixed in win2k server/advance server/data center, this why some company still use win2k for server use :D
and rather than try to mess your windows, better grab a win2k server/advance server edition than go with nlite to customize it (removing server stuff and etc) and voila you got a stable version of win2k :D
i just remember about win2k3 conversion pack to xp, maybe we can do something like that in win2k

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 06:53 AM

I prefer w2k pro, because you don't have to clean up so much - compared to server. and most free antivir complain about server. but which dll has to be replaced? perhaps before installing (using hfslip) or after install (using dualboot)...

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 07:50 AM

maybe you can ask the people in Hotstream forum such as Gurgelmeyer (creator of Windows 2000 Unofficial Service Pack), he know much about win2k.
and maube he could make a patch version of that such dll on his next version USP

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 04:55 PM

the long boot delay is really a pain. i wouldn't know were to begin to fix it but it would be a worth while project.

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 05:34 PM

I have 2k server. It is a little larger than 2k pro. If I want to take all the server parts out, how would I search for them? Or should I take the hal and ntkrnl and others and put them in pro?

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 06:59 PM

just watching win2k boot up it seems to me that it take a very long time to get the networking connections established.

i wonder how much difference there is between win2k and xp with the networking systems and could they be exchanged.

i've manually copied the xp ntldr and NTDETECT.COM into and installed win2k
and noticed a very slight improvement in boot times but i have no idea how to do this during an install.

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 07:12 PM

Copy ntldr and ntdetect from 2k3 for even a more noticable improvment over the ones from xp. I am going to work on the other boot delays. If you have any ideas, please let me know. Like you were saying maybe more files from xp or 2k3 will help.

BTW those 2 files can be put into the source before the cd is made and will be used when you install the OS :)

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 09:32 PM

ntldr/detect helps some, but another thing to try is 'blindingly obvious' (which is why you don't see it)

Try static IPs, disable DHCP service.

I really see no need for DHCP on small networks unless you have more computers than fingers. In fact I sometimes find it helpful to know what # goes with what device instead of a random .xxx suffix. Though static DHCP does take care of that...why bother with DHCP at all for simple lans?

I use statics on my lan as another barrier to access, not only do they have to get through wpa2 or own my router from the outside, they have to spoof one of my used ips to access my local ftp etc. If I'm there when this happens, theres a good chance I'll notice the problem when the spoofed box complains. (FYI: I don't use windows filesharing/workgroups at all, probably another reason I boot fast)

Its not foolproof but its better than all my stupid neighbors with no crypto (still 3 of them in good range, probably a dozen if I got real antennas) or stupid year old 40bit wep keys I already cracked a few months ago for fun. (8 of those)

Also try setting DNS client to manual, which you should do anyways to avoid a bug with hosts files. (assuming you use large hosts files to null out large tracts of the internet like I do)

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 01:17 AM

if i disable dhcp and use static i.p.'s on my lan is messes up file sharing and the ablility to "see" other pc's. a reach is nessisary to find which pc's are online.

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 03:08 PM

Filesharing doesn't need dynamic IPs/DHCP at all, any computer can still have a computer/workgroup name.

The whole point of computer names and workgroups is because they are easy to remember, but if you can count to ten thats the easiest IMO. (and has the side effect of booting faster) The KISS principle for home lans always wins ;)

Plus when windows decides today is the day to break, theres the last resort of ping X.X.X.static# to eliminate the obvious stuff like 'is the cable unplugged?'. Also nothing will stop you from connecting via IP: \\X.X.X.static#\sharename

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 02:18 PM

If you think Win2K is slow at booting up because of the networking then you should install it on an Athlon64 X2 and set it up as "ACPI Multiprocessor PC" (preferably by pressing F5 during Windows setup)...

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