[Joe User 99]

I just want WMP9 added in. (Or a seperate addon would work too!)
Thanks for all the hard work though, it is appreciated.

[war59312]

All right, thanks.

[rehack]

i'd just like to say it's working great! applied it to a vanilla win2k, used nlite to get it down to a 135mb iso, and so far it's done everything i've asked of it. wonderful job.

[-I-]

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or maybe think about byte patcher that can compare byte between a two big files and then you upload the patcher version

i don't think a byte pacher will do the trick.... because its often far from acurate.
a dif file though COULD perhaps help A litle bit though i think the work wouldn't be worth the few extra megs saved...

@gurgle, someone has picked up a nice project to create a 2k-ize patcher for win2k... screenshots look promising...

another thing involes that BTS-driver packs now supports creating a fully-slipstreamd driver-base...
(drivers.cab dosnet.inf etc), so my question for you is, witch types of drivers do you prefer build in windows and witch you want out (for now)

i myself would thing that, it would be best to start with basics, Chipset, VGA Sound LAN PCMCIA and SATA ... and fully removing printer + scanner drivers... do you agrea?

This post has been edited by -I-: 27 April 2006 - 04:39 AM

[Dels]

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someone has picked up a nice project to create a 2k-ize patcher for win2k... screenshots look promising...

you mean me? lol

i hope gurgelmeyer will finish up usp 5.5 extreme in next 3 months so i can recheck the pack in that version (i have checked on usp 5.1 and it look close enough to stable, except the skinning engine)

[Gurgelmeyer]

-I-, on Apr 27 2006, 04:30 AM, said:

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or maybe think about byte patcher that can compare byte between a two big files and then you upload the patcher version

i don't think a byte pacher will do the trick.... because its often far from acurate.
a dif file though COULD perhaps help A litle bit though i think the work wouldn't be worth the few extra megs saved...

I do agree that the download size is a problem. One thought is to release a crosslinked ISO 9660 - those are easy to create, and at least you would get "all" USP versions in one download - more value for money.

Another thought on the matter is, that most ppl probably use the USP's on 2K Pro, and don't care about the server variants. And a Pro-only variant of each USP will definately be smaller.

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@gurgle, someone has picked up a nice project to create a 2k-ize patcher for win2k... screenshots look promising...

Interesting

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another thing involes that BTS-driver packs now supports creating a fully-slipstreamd driver-base...
(drivers.cab dosnet.inf etc), so my question for you is, witch types of drivers do you prefer build in windows and witch you want out (for now)

i myself would thing that, it would be best to start with basics, Chipset, VGA Sound LAN PCMCIA and SATA ... and fully removing printer + scanner drivers... do you agrea?

I quite agree - SATA is however more important than PCMCIA I believe. Chipsets, SATA, Video (incl monitors), LAN 10/100/1000, Audio (full AC97 at least). Donno about printers and scanners yet

/G

[Kramy]

Gurgelmeyer, on Apr 27 2006, 12:07 PM, said:

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@gurgle, someone has picked up a nice project to create a 2k-ize patcher for win2k... screenshots look promising...

Interesting

I find that interesting too. Recently I started hacking my system files to put WinXP icons in them. I discovered that lots of icons are old though, so got to fixing them up by merging certain XP ones with others. I'd really love prettier icons, so post a link to your project. I can also help make a few icons too if needed, since I've eliminated most ugly ones from Explorer.exe and Shell32.dll already.

[-I-]

ill start right on theme this weekend -

thank god my isp has changed bandwith limits for me from 10 to 24gb per month, (helpfull for these tasks)...

[war59312]

Major Geeks Mirror Now Online:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/Microsoft_Window...l_SP_d4817.html

Also, what about USP-5.02.2195.16-GURGELS-OWN.ZIP ? Did you want me to post this as well? I see at least one person wants it.

This post has been edited by war59312: 27 April 2006 - 11:24 PM

[Dels]

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I find that interesting too. Recently I started hacking my system files to put WinXP icons in them. I discovered that lots of icons are old though, so got to fixing them up by merging certain XP ones with others. I'd really love prettier icons, so post a link to your project. I can also help make a few icons too if needed, since I've eliminated most ugly ones from Explorer.exe and Shell32.dll already.

please PM me for that

[os2fan2]

i was wondering, as i begin the dial-up download of usp 5.1.2195, if it were possible to put the extras into a separate service pack.

Such things are not unknown elsewhere. OS/2 delivers the drivers in a separate service stream to the base OS. The second service pack could be multi-platform thing, eg Win2k / xp / ???.


W

[-I-]

doesnt work that way...

even though it could it would make more trouble for end users.

for example, if we would have packs a b and c
and pack a and c need file editiong of file x but b nead a complete update of file x than wicht of those packs should we change file x first, and what happends when the end user doesn't install a b and c in Our Prefered (and calulated) order.

this is probebly the biggest problem with creating windows service packs...
and recomanded thing to do is as a friend to download it on broadband and burn you a cdrom with it...


btw most drivers and patches are OS-specific, though most aplications work on both 2 and XP drivers and sucht wil not, as the base code and kernel has taken quite a lot of change.
and a rumour goes, in SP3 comming Q4 of this year (or so it should). thing regarding drivers wil change in full,

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[Dels]

so that is imposible?

how about something such as "roll-up" or "post update" like M$ done with "update roll-up sp4"?is it impossible too?

really i don't have friends that use broadband connection near (they all in different city and some of them different island) i use a small shared 128kbps connection here and the max download speed is only 10-15kb/s so download USP can take up to 4-6 days or maybe a full 2 days

and
i have seen other team that work on "AutoPacther 2K" project, they seem already solved that problem, they have a patch every month that only 10-20 mb and the full patch (desember 2005) is the base (huge, ~500mb)

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and a rumour goes, in SP3 comming Q4 of this year (or so it should). thing regarding drivers wil change in full,

i have read some official news, it will release on 2007 just a couple month before vista release

thanks

This post has been edited by Dels: 30 April 2006 - 03:14 AM

[Gurgelmeyer]

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how about something such as "roll-up" or "post update" like M$ done with "update roll-up sp4"?is it impossible too?

I really prefer to eliminate as many problems as possible in advance, rather than making a mess of updates like good old MS have done. I'm sure you get my point Convenience is one of the main purposes of USP's

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really i don't have friends that use broadband connection near (they all in different city and some of them different island) i use a small shared 128kbps connection here and the max download speed is only 10-15kb/s so download USP can take up to 4-6 days or maybe a full 2 days sad.gif

242971184 bytes / (10240 bytes/second) / 3600 seconds/hour = 6 hours 35 minutes. Try downloading SP3 with 5.5 kb/sec - now those were the days....

/G

(PS - Don't worry - I already have an idea on "smart compression" - I need to run some tests)

This post has been edited by Gurgelmeyer: 30 April 2006 - 02:46 PM

[rehack]

Gurgelmeyer, on Apr 30 2006, 04:26 PM, said:

(PS - Don't worry - I already have an idea on "smart compression" - I need to run some tests)

you mean extract all *.??_ files, recompress as a solid 7z archive, then reconstruct the *.??_ files after download? that'd save 27 MB from the download: (*.??_) = 102 MB, and all those files extracted and 7z'ed = 75 MB.

you could also extract the two driver.cab files (42 MB and 30 MB) and combine them to one 7z archive (34 MB) to save another 38 MB. that's 65 MB saved overall.

of course the price of this is sitting through the re-compression on the user's side. it'd take around 10 minutes on a current system. i don't think that's a huge price though - how often do people apply service packs? there'd always be the option to leave the reconstructed version on the hard drive so it only has to be done once. it could be worth it as another download option at least. w2ksp51.exe as 144 MB vs 209 MB?

[Gurgelmeyer]

In theory a lot like that. My thought is, that each and every file should be stored only once - no matter how often it appears, no matter under which names, no matter how many different ways it is compressed, no matter if it's (recursively) embedded in MSI streams or other cabinets. It's perfectly simple - it could even be expanded to handle more than just the MSCF formats. The only difference to the end user would be that (s)he would have to download an EXE file instead of a ZIP file.

Best regards
Gurgelmeyer

[Dels]

or maybe we could ask someone in AutoPacther 2K project how they did it

please don't mind, this only a "cruel" joke

[vci]

great work gurgelmeyer!

i think this release and 5.2 will be the best versions (dont need extreme edition at all ...)

[erpdude8]

Hi Gurgelmeyer. sorry I wasnt able to follow up my old topic about the FP2k KB838018 hotfix. I was busy in the other side of the MSFN forums site.

wonder if the KB139071 OLE automation hotfix is or will be included in your unofficial Win2k SP5 pack.
Files are build 4528; replaces the previous 4526 build from KB886765. MS KB article 139071:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/139071

I have this Win2k hotfix. someone sent it to me. let me know if you need it.

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 02 May 2006 - 05:32 PM

[-I-]

btw. G from around next week or so i got myself a (powerhouse)
> (dualcore 1,8ghz cpu) with 2gb of ram...
so if for any reason you nead any cpu-time for building it or compressing it.. just ask...