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#1 User is offline   notinthisworld 

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Posted 30 April 2006 - 06:56 AM

is there a way to install IE7 in 98se?
is it possible?


#2 User is offline   Tihiy 

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Posted 30 April 2006 - 07:10 AM

View Postnotinthisworld, on Apr 30 2006, 06:56 AM, said:

is there a way to install IE7 in 98se?
is it possible?

Not in this world. <_<

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Posted 30 April 2006 - 10:03 AM

Hello!

View Postnotinthisworld, on Apr 30 2006, 02:56 PM, said:

is there a way to install IE7 in 98se?
is it possible?


Not even in Windows 2000. Only in XP.SP2, XP.x64 and 2003.SP1
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie7/ab...qs/default.mspx
(I hope that there will be MSFN thread titled: "IE7 in 2000.SP4 with kernel updates")

BTW, if you have fast Windows 98.SE PC with a lot of RAM, you can install Connectix
Virtual PC 5.1 and inside it XP.SP2 and then IE7.B2 ... :D

Cheers, Roman

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Posted 01 May 2006 - 05:10 AM

View PostTihiy, on Apr 30 2006, 07:10 AM, said:

View Postnotinthisworld, on Apr 30 2006, 06:56 AM, said:

is there a way to install IE7 in 98se?
is it possible?

Not in this world. <_<


yea i mean forget it, guys. ie7 isnt designed for 9xME systems anyway so why bother. the 9xme era of windows is almost coming to an end.

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 09:24 AM

EH, who needs IE7 if we're using Win98se or WinME? Download and install the Yahoo! Toolbar for IE from the Yahoo Downloads page:
http://downloads.yahoo.com/
click on the link to download the latest release of Yahoo Toolbar for IE. The latest releases of the Yahoo Toolbar for Internet Explorer will add a Popup Blocker and Tabbed browsing to your existing version of IE. I've installed the Yahoo Toolbar and IE6 SP1 can now display tabs in IE on my WinME machine. NEAT!

min requirements for IE Yahoo Toolbar are Win98se & IE 5.5.

and besides, IE7 RC is still buggy. good thing I didnt install IE7 RC on my other PC that has XP SP2.

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 12:00 PM

View Posterpdude8, on Oct 2 2006, 09:24 AM, said:

EH, who needs IE7 if we're using Win98se or WinME? Download and install the Yahoo! Toolbar for IE from the Yahoo Downloads page:
http://downloads.yahoo.com/
click on the link to download the latest release of Yahoo Toolbar for IE. The latest releases of the Yahoo Toolbar for Internet Explorer will add a Popup Blocker and Tabbed browsing to your existing version of IE. I've installed the Yahoo Toolbar and IE6 SP1 can now display tabs in IE on my WinME machine. NEAT!

TERRIBLE and DISGUSTING. Even worse than first MSN Toolbar with tabbed browsing. :realmad:

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 03:13 PM

View PostTihiy, on Oct 2 2006, 01:00 PM, said:

TERRIBLE and DISGUSTING. Even worse than first MSN Toolbar with tabbed browsing. :realmad:


WOW! does the Yahoo Toolbar for IE crash your computer, Tihiy?

I installed it under my relative's Win98se PC, my WinME computer and my brother's XP SP2 laptop machine and it works well. haven't found any problems with it! :thumbup

anyway my brother does use the Yahoo Toolbar on IE on his laptop. if I disable or remove the Yahoo Toolbar, he'll get p***ed. so I better not mess with it and he likes it.

oh well, it just cant please everyone

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 04:08 PM

View Posterpdude8, on Oct 2 2006, 03:24 PM, said:

EH, who needs IE7 if we're using Win98se or WinME?


Well, I do. I need to install IE7 for test purposes (web development). It would be sooo useful to me if I could use IE7 in my primary OS (98 SE).

And yes, I realise that with the coming end of Mozilla's support for 9x, I will have finally to abandon my beloved 98 SE as the OS in which I develop. But I do still hold out some hope that people much more talented than I will be able to keep a Firefox branch for 9x alive.

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 04:32 PM

View Posterpdude8, on Oct 2 2006, 03:13 PM, said:

WOW! does the Yahoo Toolbar for IE crash your computer, Tihiy?

I installed it under my relative's Win98se PC, my WinME computer and my brother's XP SP2 laptop machine and it works well. haven't found any problems with it! :thumbup

anyway my brother does use the Yahoo Toolbar on IE on his laptop. if I disable or remove the Yahoo Toolbar, he'll get p***ed. so I better not mess with it and he likes it.


What's so great about the Yahoo toobar ? You speak about it a lot since some time.

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 04:43 PM

View PostTihiy, on Oct 2 2006, 02:00 PM, said:

View Posterpdude8, on Oct 2 2006, 09:24 AM, said:

EH, who needs IE7 if we're using Win98se or WinME? Download and install the Yahoo! Toolbar for IE from the Yahoo Downloads page:
http://downloads.yahoo.com/
click on the link to download the latest release of Yahoo Toolbar for IE. The latest releases of the Yahoo Toolbar for Internet Explorer will add a Popup Blocker and Tabbed browsing to your existing version of IE. I've installed the Yahoo Toolbar and IE6 SP1 can now display tabs in IE on my WinME machine. NEAT!

TERRIBLE and DISGUSTING. Even worse than first MSN Toolbar with tabbed browsing. :realmad:


How about the Maxthon browser? It's customizable, uses whatever IE engine is installed, or mozilla engine, offers tabbed browsing, and still offers an Ansi version for Win9x...

Also, I'm rather sure that IF IE 7's mshtml.dll file has no unresolved dependencies on win9x, it could run with the Maxthon gui, thus providing you with the rendering engine of IE7. (pipe dream?)

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#11 User is offline   Petr 

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 05:27 PM

View Postjimmsta, on Oct 3 2006, 12:43 AM, said:

Also, I'm rather sure that IF IE 7's mshtml.dll file has no unresolved dependencies on win9x, it could run with the Maxthon gui, thus providing you with the rendering engine of IE7. (pipe dream?)


mshtml.dll 7.00.5700.6 has the following unresolved dependencies on Windows 98 SE:

iert.dll - missing
psapi.dll - missing
IEFRAME.DLL - missing
UxTheme.dll - missing

GDI32.DLL
- missing GetFontUnicodeRanges
KERNEL32.DLL
- missing GetSystemDefaultUILanguage
- missing GetSystemWindowsDirectoryW
- missing GetUserDefaultUILanguage
- missing EnumUILanguagesW
- missing ActivateActCtx
- missing CreateActCtxW
- missing ReleaseActCtx
- missing DeactivateActCtx
USER32.DLL
- missing AllowSetForegroundWindow
- missing IsWinEventHookInstalled
ADVAPI32.DLL
- missing GetTraceEnableFlags
- missing GetTraceEnableLevel
- missing GetTraceLoggerHandle
- missing RegisterTraceGuidsW
- missing TraceEvent
- missing UnregisterTraceGuids
SHLWAPI.DLL
- missing SHRegGetValueW
- missing AssocGetPerceivedType
SHELL32.DLL
- missing SHGetFolderPathA
- missing SHGetFolderPathW
URLMON.DLL - many unresolved imports

If you would like to use IE7 iert.dll it has the following unresolved references:
KERNEL32.DLL
- missing GlobalMemoryStatusEx
SHELL32.DLL
- missing SHGetFolderPathW


It looks like really impossible to use IE7 core on Win9x OS.

Petr

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 12:57 AM

I've been using SlimBrowser for years, I can't even remember how IE looks like. It works on every Win version except for Win95 (since recently, I think). Its only main issue is that - because of a bug in recent versions of explorer.exe - it's incompatible with the hidden taskbar option when a skin is applied (taskbar won't show up on mouse hover). However, in Win98SE it does work; at least for me it always did.

There's another thread around the board regarding SlimBrowser, where I offered some tip.

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 01:21 AM

How about Opera? Opera works fine for me in Windows 98 SE.

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 06:43 PM

this tabs to ie 5.5+ but it isnt free
http://www.microgarden.com/webtools/

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 01:54 PM

imo the best tab browser shell: maxthon....make sure it's version 1.5.7.xx, not the terrible alpha 2.0.xx going around.

http://www.maxthon.com/

by far the most flexible, customizable and powerful....imo of course

:)

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#16 User is offline   Tihiy 

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 01:56 PM

View Postjasinwa, on Oct 5 2006, 01:54 PM, said:

imo the best tab browser shell: maxthon....make sure it's version 1.5.7.xx, not the terrible alpha 2.0.xx going around.

It's not that terrible; it's just alpha. :o

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 10:27 PM

View PostTihiy, on Oct 5 2006, 12:56 PM, said:

View Postjasinwa, on Oct 5 2006, 01:54 PM, said:

imo the best tab browser shell: maxthon....make sure it's version 1.5.7.xx, not the terrible alpha 2.0.xx going around.

It's not that terrible; it's just alpha. :o


well, it won't even run on 98se at this time...that's pretty terrible! :P

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 11:08 PM

Yay Yahoo Toolbar!

Heh. That's the way I go on 98SE. I'm still not a convert to tabbed browsing but it's nice that it's included for the occasional desire to keep a few pages available. Not that I ever had a problem just opening a few windows.

On XP I usually don't bother with it as the built in popup blocker is fine. And it's easy enough to navigate Yahoo without the toolbar.

After spending many years with Netscape to Mozilla to Firefox and Thunderbird I've taken to using Internet Explorer lately. I did it first just to see what the new IE 7 was like in Vista Beta. I noticed it got me where I wanted to go. Now I don't even have Firefox installed on my XP or 9x.

Lots of folks love all the Firefox extensions, but I rarely installed any anyway.

I remember I originally switched because the first Internet Explorer versions on 98SE seemed so buggy to me and Netscape just worked (then the rest of the Mozilla line). I got used to it.

But as long as I'm on the net with all the shield's we use now IE is fine, and seemingly pretty secure.

Eh. If I come across annoyances I'll switch back. I guess I don't see the importance of loyalty to boxes that navigate web pages. Sheesh. Who cares? I can't believe people fight over that trivolity. I've gotten quite a chuckle over the years reading all the passion in forum threads over people's favorite browsing GUI.

Now, I DID see the importance of noticing that Microsoft gave it's browser for free while Netscape, at the time, made its money from selling their's. Now there was an operating system killing off a whole company. Shouldn't have been allowed to happen. But it's history now.

Now it's just personal preference.

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Posted 20 October 2006 - 11:03 AM

nevertheless, the final release of IE7 is now available at this Microsoft page:
http://www.microsoft...ds/default.mspx

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Posted 20 October 2006 - 06:32 PM

And, since I was impatient I have the Yahoo customized version of IE7 installed.

No matter. I normally use Yahoo as my default search engine, don't mind the Yahoo Toolbar, use the My Yahoo homepage anyway, and don't care that it says "provided by Yahoo!" on the Titlebar.

Too bad it won't run on 9x. It's a nice upgrade for Internet Explorer and it sure would make installing all the Internet Explorer updates easier, since it comes with most of them built in. It downloads some updates before it installs but I think it already contains most of them. Of course, they are XP versions of the updates.

Hmmm, Firefox 2 next week, eh? I'm sure that'll be nice too. And that works on 9x.

I've got my 98SE on VMWare right now. I got sick of the IOS Error that real mode memory allocation failed ALWAYS showing up after a random program install. It had nothing to do with Nero or MSN Messenger. It happened after I installed Spybot Search and Destroy last time.

No such difficulty with VMWare. It's just too bad there's no Direct X Direct 3D Video acceleration provided by it on 9x. I'll try again at some point making a real installation. I'd rather have the real thing, that includes using my videocard and Direct X gaming.

And that IOS fixing tool did nothing but delete all my font's. Heh. Once that IOS error shows up you're screwed! Windows in Safe Mode only, and MS-DOS is all you're left with.

All I can think of is I've heard scanner software can muck things up. I use an HP Scanjet 3970. Maybe that's not as 98 compatible as HP maintains. I'll try disabling the connected scanner next time rather than installing the software for it. Heck, that's what I do in Vista which has no driver for it as yet. I'll just use the scanner in XP.

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