[Vinnie]

First, Sorry if this has already been posted... but the search is not working for me.

I'm running a small business upgrading/installing things for people in the local area. I have a customer who is very strong to Windows 95B. They rescently bought a broadband package. It came with one of them Speedtouch 330 USB Modems (The Silver Rev. 4 One). Go to install the software. Of Course it says. Only Compatible on Windows 98SE/ME/2k/Xp.

I Know it's a USB device & USB support maybe a little sloppy. But is there anyway that I can mod the installer file so the drivers will install on Windows 95. By the way suggesting a cheap upgrade to even Windows 98SE didn't go down well. I think it's either mod the installer or tell the customer it's not possible.

[LLXX]

Install 98se and swap in the Win95 shell and boot logo. They'll never notice the difference, except that the system seems much more stable than usual

Win95 did not have proper USB support...

This post has been edited by LLXX: 02 June 2006 - 03:38 AM

[Vinnie]

Never thought of doing that... If we had my way i'd be converting everyone who comes to a Linux distro.. But that's not going to happen

Thanks

This post has been edited by Vinnie: 02 June 2006 - 03:46 AM

[Scubar]

you could just give them a slap n tell them to stop living in the stoneage.

[jaclaz]

Actually there WAS a release of Win95 with USB support.

You can add USB support to the existing Win95, by "B" I presume you are referring to OSR2, actual releases are listed in my post here:
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...66&#entry482366

Read this:
http://www.usbman.co...USB%20Guide.htm


Then you can try if the Win98 drivers work.

jaclaz

[prx984]

whats wrong with windows 95? other than the USB it was a good operating system. i used it for about 6 years, until i got an XP machine. All the OS's in between 95 and XP i didnt think to much of. Except maybe ME, i like that OS. it runs good for me, never had any problems with it. 2000 was good too, but XP was just way better. runs better too. anyway, the best thing i think your going to be able to do is load up 98 and change the ui like LLXX said, its the best your going to be able to do. hope you can get something done, oh whats the specs on the 95 system? just for interest sake.

-brian

PS: maybe try seeing if they can get a different modem, one with a cat5 connection on it, then tell them to get an old LAN card that has support for windows 95. thatll work too.

[Vinnie]

Thanks. jaclaz. Installed the USB supplement. Tried an MP3 player on it.. worked:D.. Now the question is. Is there a way to edit any Hex code in the installer. Or any way to make the Installer "Think" it's running on 98?. By the way the reason this machine needs 95 is because of some programs or something that they wrote & will not run successful even on 98.. apparently. I'll give you the Specs Brian when I have more time

This post has been edited by Vinnie: 03 June 2006 - 08:07 AM

[jaclaz]

hmm, cannot say, without knowing the type of installer used.

You can have a go with this:
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=62418&hl=

and/or run the installer on a 98 machine using the tools and method listed here:
http://z3.invisionfr...hp?showtopic=80

Than get just the .inf file and all files referenced in it + any dependencies.

jaclaz

This post has been edited by jaclaz: 03 June 2006 - 11:44 AM

[Appleadameve]

Hehe..., my PC is much more funnier, it has the USB chipset available on the motherbored, but there's no USB connector installed on it or in the PC case!

[Vinnie]

Yes... Extracting the .inf files worked .. Thank you guys. I'm kind of a Windows n00b well the early 9x Anyway.. I normally do Linux (Especially RedHat & Debian)

[prx984]

hey kool, glad you got it working.

-brian

[jaclaz]

Maybe there is a moral to this story.....

...Win95 can still be used for certain tasks....

jaclaz

[CLASYS]

Use 98SE with 98lite SLEEK shell option. Looks like 95, smells like 95, much more compatible with many things, still works identically to 95 GUI. Change LOGO.SYS to the one offered with later 95 systems and you cannot tell the difference. [Note: No logo file says pretty much what later logo files for 95 say, but in 98 that would be a dead giveaway.]

Until 98lite MICRO shell, I used 95 also to create complete bootable systems on LS-120 A: drive as a maintenance tool. Now I don't have to, since 98lite MICRO fits in about 80-odd meg before apps.

98SE USB support far better than 98 First Edition in turn far better than 95, especially when patched with available fixes only for SE. I remember when I got my first 56K modem that CLAIMED USB support, it never worked until 98SE with the patches, which officially MS said would never be available in 98 FE. USR told me 95 was impossible, wait for 98, but even they didn't know that it wouldn't be until 98SE AND numerous available patches [applied by Unofficial 98 Second Edition Service Pack 2.1a is the most convenient way to get there] then it would actually work!

cjl [98lite SLEEK and MICRO use Win95 shell over 98/SE/ME guts]

[nicke85]

LLXX has rights...
The best way for you is Win98SE with 95 shell...
System will be more stable than 95...
You can use 98lite 4.7 pro for best install procedure...

I always install 98se without IE...

This post has been edited by nicke85: 13 June 2006 - 07:45 AM

[jaclaz]

Why don't you read the post before replying?

Vinnie said:

By the way the reason this machine needs 95 is because of some programs or something that they wrote & will not run successful even on 98.. apparently.

Remember that for runnning 98lite you need BOTH a Win95 and a Win98 license, besides a LEGITIMATE copy and license of 98lite itself.

@nicke85
Please remove as soon as possible that link, you might be banned from the board:

Quote

1. This is not a warez site! Links/Requests to warez and/or illegal material (porn, cracks, serials, etc..) will not be tolerated. Discussion of circumventing WGA/activation/timebombs/keygens or any other illegal activity will also not be tolerated. You will be banned without notice.

Rule #1 here:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=18408

jaclaz

[nicke85]

Link was removed as you wished jaclaz.
Why I can't post my files...I're properly payed for them.

Sorry Vinnie if you didn't download 98lite.

[eidenk]

nicke85, on Jun 13 2006, 07:52 AM, said:

Link was removed as you wished jaclaz.
Why I can't post my files...I're properly payed for them.

Sorry Vinnie if you didn't download 98lite.

And what does the license you've agreed upon when buying says ?