[wizardofwindows]

Check out link new hiding spot lol.Link 21 home

[Thunderbolt 2864]

Did Link21 get banned here?

[LLXX]

...except now he's named "Link19"... lol

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

It must be a nightmare for Win98/SE/ME users over there
I'm gonna downgrade all my WinXP to Win98SE cuz Link21 drove me to this
point of no return

This post has been edited by PROBLEMCHYLD: 16 June 2006 - 07:06 AM

[RJM]

Link21 downgraded to Link19
noted

This post has been edited by RJM: 16 June 2006 - 07:20 AM

[rainyd]

Timeless, thanks for the link (this thread is quite funny).
Honestly, this guy is really obsessed.

[atomizer]

Thunderbolt 2864, on Jun 16 2006, 01:04 AM, said:

Did Link21 get banned here?

i sure as hell hope so

[wizardofwindows]

Enjoy the continuing misadventures of Link 21-19 on his never ending crusade to stop usage of 9x the saga continues. Where next maybe neowin or osbeta lol.

[Link21]

I have never been banned here. The worst I have ever received is a simple warning. I am still here and have never been suspended nor banned.

I just don't post in the Windows 95/98/98SE/ME forums. I only visit because my opinion is not wanted in the Windows 95/98/98SE/ME support forums because I hate Widnows 9X and have nothing good to say about it.

I have never been downgraded from 21 to 19. Just look at my registartion date over at Anandtech Forums. It is over three years old. Look at my registration date here at MSFN. It is in January 2005, so less than 1.5 years old.

I simply was of a younger age when I joined Ananadtech forums back in 2003, so I named myself with a lower number afterwards. When I joined MSFN, I was two years older, so I put 21 after my name.

Look at some of my other posts over at Anandtech. It isn't new for me to bash Windows 9X over there because I can and I hate it so much and badly hoped to see native optimized Windows NT only games and applications a long long time ago.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.as...7&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.as...4&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.as...8&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.as...0&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.as...3&enterthread=y

There were much older threads at Anandtech with me bashing Windows 98/ME, but you won't find them because Anandtech erased all their old threads from before the year 2006.

And Anandtech and MSFN weren't the only places I have a registered account and hate Windows 9X. I also bashed it at Hardforums.

My account over there is Super Mario. I used to be a big Nintendo fan, so I choose the name Link from the Legend of Zelda for MSFN forums and Anandtech forums. I choose the name Super Mario for the Hardforums.

Here are some threads with me being against Windows 98/<E at hardforums.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=...ghlight=98%2FME

(The results of the poll I made at Hardforums rocked. It was my favorite out of all the polls I ever made at any forums regarding the topic on Windows 98/ME and having them trashed. I made two polls at Anandtech forums about the same topics one in 2004 and one in 2005, but theyt are both gone by now. Both polls favored having Windows 98/ME trashed, but there were still too many voting for them to live. MSFN is the only board out of the three boards where more people voted for POS Windows 98/ME to live.)


http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=...t=Longhorn+life

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=...WIndows+98%2FME

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=...WIndows+98%2FME

You will see how much I really hate Windows 98/ME based on my posts at those other boards in addition to this one.

I just badly dreamed of seeing at least some native Windows NT only games as far back as 2002. But all thanks to the blind and ignorant Windows 98SE obsessers and lovers, it took way too long to happen and heck, it still in some ways hasn't really happened, which is just sad. I just want Windows 9X to die. Fine, people can use whatever they want, but Windows 9X users should have been stuck using older software or forced to run Widnows 2K/XP/2003, or Linux, MAC OS X as far back as 2002 if they wanted to run the latest games and software. And that includes open source and freeware which should have been written for the native Windows NT based OS as far back as 2002 when it comes to the Microsoft OS world.

This post has been edited by Link21: 16 June 2006 - 05:05 PM

[Link21]

This thread was started specifically by Timeless regarding me on another board. It mentioned my name, and so it drew my interest. This is not a typical thread in the Windows 95/98/98SE/ME support forums.

So by making one comment to bash Windows 9X in this thread, it is not hijacking any relevent threads for users in the Windows 9X forums who want to make use of the OS.

As this topic was about me being at another board started speifically be another member, I simply made a post to show that I have been at two other boards and the posts I have made that the OP was referring to by finding Link at another board.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Hey link21
Win98 is 1 of the best system ever no matter how much u hate it just get over it man.
BTW i just purchase 15 copies on ebay
this thread should be a sitcom

[randiroo76073]

Link21 you really should get some help for this "Obsessive/Compulsive" thing you have for 9x/ME, it could cause irreparable damage to your young psyche!

[Link21]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on Jun 16 2006, 02:49 PM, said:

Hey link21
Win98 is 1 of the best system ever no matter how much u hate it just get over it man.
BTW i just purchase 15 copies on ebay
this thread should be a sitcom

In your opinion it is one of the best systems. But most people would disagree including me.

[RainyShadow]

Hey Link22.5, I'm gonna setup a Win95 machine soon

randiroo76073, on Jun 16 2006, 11:47 PM, said:

Link21 you really should get some help for this "Obsessive/Compulsive" thing you have for 9x/ME, it could cause irreparable damage to your young psyche!

Didn't it already?

[Thunderbolt 2864]

When I upgraded Windows XP from Windows 98 I was happy. Sure it takes more RAM, but at least it wast stable. Since then I've been using XP and I never looked back.

I liked Windows 98, but its old. And I don't think it was stable, it did freeze and crash a lot with my computer.

I'm not going to start a debate with you guys, no point really. We're all entitled to our opinions.

If some of you guys hate Windows XP why can't you use 2000? Or use 2003, which is better. I thought 2000's performance was better than 98.

[winxpi]

Thunderbolt 2864, on Jun 17 2006, 01:30 AM, said:

When I upgraded Windows XP from Windows 98 I was happy. Sure it takes more RAM, but at least it wast stable. Since then I've been using XP and I never looked back.

I liked Windows 98, but its old. And I don't think it was stable, it did freeze and crash a lot with my computer.

I'm not going to start a debate with you guys, no point really. We're all entitled to our opinions.

If some of you guys hate Windows XP why can't you use 2000? Or use 2003, which is better. I thought 2000's performance was better than 98.

It depends.

[janus zeal]

Hey, everyone is allowed to have thier own view. i like 98se, but i also like xp. they are both good systems. it just depends on what you do with them.

[waywyrd]

Hi,

When I got my first PC, which came with Win98SE, I had all the usual problems... BSOD, programs crashing, constant reboots etc. Several times I came close to throwing the PC out of the nearest window.

Then a salvation came in the form of a PC magazine article about Shane Brooks IE Iradicator. I downloaded the program and was so impressed with the speed gains and stability I purchased the full 98Lite program.

Then later on I came across "98 SE SP 2.1a" which improved my Win98 even further. Later still "Killer Replacements 98 SE -> ME" and even more improvement. Thanks to those guys for all their work.

Now I dual boot Win98 (with the addons) and WinXP.

I'm hanging on to Win98 while it will still do all the things I want it to do. I find several things work better[b] under Win98 than XP.

Nero CD burning for one. Version 6 will 'coaster' CD's under XP, under Win98 works perfectly (99%). Another family member (scorns me for still using 98) has also 'coastered' several CD's... using different Cd burning programs... whilst trying to do some CD's for me.

Malware, viruses etc. next to nothing with Win98. Not so with XP.

With the way Microsoft is heading, with bigger 'bloat', one system setup 'fits all' I'll probably head for Linux (even with its steep learning curve). Or a Mac if I can ever afford one.

Another reason... check this out! Microsoft spyware?

Waywyrd

[Fredledingue]

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When I upgraded Windows XP from Windows 98 I was happy. Sure it takes more RAM, but at least it wast stable

Did you upgrade from w98 to XP on the same AND unchanged hardware? Or did you add more ram in order to run XP? Because if you did so, you may have not need to upgrade to have a stable system.
In fact XP is stable ONLY BECAUSE it requires 128 and because 256 is recommanded and because practicaly no one is running it with les than 512 Mb. Run w98se++ on a computer meeting the XP recommandations and ou will rarely see a crash.

_______

Link21

Hate w98 as you want (you didn't test it on recent hardware and with the recent updates anyway) but ONE THING YOU SHOULD KNOW: there is no miraculous performance enhancement for XP only games or softwares.
I understand that it's hard for you to admit it, but it's true.

Games and softwares are designed only for windows XP already for several years now, and w98 has no influence at all on developpement. Developpers totaly ignore this OS.
If some but not all, games works on w98, it's because there is nothing in XP that helps games to work better or faster. XP is in fact, not a gamer freindly OS.

XP is stable only because is sucks resoucres out, at the expense of apps and games. That's why games will never run faster on XP.

There is no hidden miracle in XP that could make things faster. Games and appps are slower on XP because XP sucks resources. A 3Ghz processor is still 3Ghz with w98 or XP whatever you do. the problem with XP is that true CPU use for applications outside the OS id at best (most services disabled) 2.5 Ghz, while almost full for w98.

XP stability is based on permanent loop-checking. It's architecture is patches on patches. The core of XP is still w98. You will be amazed of the number of things that are the same in XP and in w98.
The main change is NTSF... which is LESS reliable than FAT32 by experience.

Dream on, Link 21, Pure XP software, are already all those you can find regardless of what some 2% of PC users do with w98.

[Link21]

Quote

Link21

Hate w98 as you want (you didn't test it on recent hardware and with the recent updates anyway) but ONE THING YOU SHOULD KNOW: there is no miraculous performance enhancement for XP only games or softwares.
I understand that it's hard for you to admit it, but it's true.

Games and softwares are designed only for windows XP already for several years now, and w98 has no influence at all on developpement. Developpers totaly ignore this OS.
If some but not all, games works on w98, it's because there is nothing in XP that helps games to work better or faster. XP is in fact, not a gamer freindly OS.

XP is stable only because is sucks resoucres out, at the expense of apps and games. That's why games will never run faster on XP.

There is no hidden miracle in XP that could make things faster. Games and appps are slower on XP because XP sucks resources. A 3Ghz processor is still 3Ghz with w98 or XP whatever you do. the problem with XP is that true CPU use for applications outside the OS id at best (most services disabled) 2.5 Ghz, while almost full for w98.

XP stability is based on permanent loop-checking. It's architecture is patches on patches. The core of XP is still w98. You will be amazed of the number of things that are the same in XP and in w98.
The main change is NTSF... which is LESS reliable than FAT32 by experience.

Dream on, Link 21, Pure XP software, are already all those you can find regardless of what some 2% of PC users do with w98.

Why do you keep saying Windows XP only games and applications. It is not Windows XP only games and applications. It is Windows 2000/XP only games and applications, thus Windows NT based operating systems only.

The core of Windows XP is NOT Windows 98. The core is Windows NT. ANybody I know who has dealt with all the operating systems eaisly knows how different the operating systems are. Under the hood, they are a completely different animal that has nothing in common with each other.

Windows 2000/XP are stable because they are based on the NT kernel which has separate memory space for all user land applications. So no user mode application can crash the system. It is not because they suck resources away from applications.

Battlefield 2 is one of the best performing games out. It is Windows XP only. It can run on Windows 200 as well because Windows 2000 is still based on Windows NT and is not that much different from Windows XP. That game won't run at all on Windows 98/ME. If it does, it runs extremely poorly. So you tell me. Why XP and 2000 only applications and games. It is because they run so poorly or not at all in Windows 98/ME.

Also, games and applications are not slower on XP/2000. Most benchmarks have shown them to be faster.

NOD32 is the fstest AntiVirus application. Guess what. It has separate binaries for the Windows NT based OS and the Windows 9X based OS. It uses the same exact binaries for Windows NT4 as it does for Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP. It has completely different compiled binaries for Windows 95/98/ME. The fact that it has a native version for the Windows NT based operating systems only has really helped its performance.

Performance gains may not be miraqculous, but they are certainly more than just a little. I'd say the performance gains are moderate and plenty noticeable in XP only applications.

And NTFS is far more reliable than FAT32. You can easily corrupt a FAT32 partition just by hitting the reset button on your PC. With NTFS, it is unlikely that rebooting the PC without shutting down the system will corrupt it.