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nLite 1.0 beta 6

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Can anyone tell me why nLite version 1.0 beta 6 makes much smaller installations than RC6, RC7 or RC8 when essentially all the same components are selected for removal. There seems to be several hundred MB difference after installation. The installation I made using the beta version is less that 900 MB after installation and the installations made with subsequent version are > 1.7 GB. All were made from the same copy of XPHE and incude all the SP2 updates. The installation made from the beta version seems to be very stable and I have not experienced any problems with it. I am just curious what the differences are.

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Are you sure you removed the same stuff? If you used a last_session.ini made in Rc7/8 and used it on Rc6, there will be some stuff in the ini to be removed that isn't available in Rc6.

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did you have enabled / disable recompressing of cabs files?

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900mb-1.7gb is a very large source ... :o

to begin with nLite is to customize ... slim down ... the OS

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I assume by source file you mean the finished nlite installation disk size. I am talking about the installed Windows folder size after installation. The installation disk is only about 165 MB.

I did not enable CAB recompression

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.Net Framework and Java ?

Any hotfix backup folder (hidden files, NTFS compressed if available so they display in blue)

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Netframe 1.1 was used with 1.0 beta 6 and version 2 with RC6, 7 and 8. Java version is 5.X. No hotfixes were added to any of them. I updated after installation.

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These "programs" are more and more space-consuming. It does not explain a 800MB difference but afaik .Net 2 eats more space than .Net 1.

I think you should try inside a VM with beta6 and final, without any software or update. It's hard to guess the impact of softwares.

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I assume by source file you mean the finished nlite installation disk size. I am talking about the installed Windows folder size after installation. The installation disk is only about 165 MB.
my bad turbines ... 165 is a very decent source :)
These "programs" are more and more space-consuming.
i completely agree with Camarade_Tux here ... seeing that the add-ons we use are compressed, once installed (i.e., Java & .Net) eat a lot of space ... verifying from my Add/Remove programs --- hundreds of mbs are allocated for these ...

but the swollen installation still does not compute ... :huh:

i'd assume that as far as compression is concerned you did the same with the previous builds ...

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Ok things are getting a bit confused for me. None of the installations I refered to include programs, NetFrame or VM Hotfix addons. I am going to reload my basic windows installation from the sources made from the beta 6 and then load the one made from 1.0 Final. Then I will include the ini file for each as will as exact size on disk figures. That may help sort this puzzle out.

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Ok it seems I may have found the problem and maybe someone can explain why. The difference is in the virtual memory size. In all cases I move mine to a second physical drive partition. It seems that in some cases that the initial space used by the page files on "C" is not recovered after moving them to another drive even though the setting on the advanced virtual memory settings show "no paging file" on C.

Below are 2 example preset texts. The first one produces a uncompressed windows size of ~ 500 MB after moving the page files to another drive. The second produces a windows size of ~ 1.24 GB with the page files moved to another drive. In fact the second shows the same size regardless as to whether the page files are moved or not. The problem does not seem to be related to any differences between 6 beta and subsequent versions of nLite

The only difference I see is in the Drivers, Networks Settings and Services components.

[Main]

Env = 1.0 Final - 2.0.50727.42.Microsoft Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2

Target = Windows XP Home Edition Sp2 - build 2180 - English (United States)

[Tasks]

Remove Components

Unattended Setup

Tweaks

Create a Bootable ISO

Patches

Options

[Components]

;# Applications #

Accessibility Options

Briefcase

Calculator

Charmap

ClipBook Viewer

Games

Internet Games

Paint

Pinball

Screensavers

Wordpad

;# Drivers #

Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM)

Cameras and Camcorders

Display Adapters

Display Adapters (old)

Ethernet (LAN)

IBM Thinkpad

InfraRed

ISDN

Logitech WingMan

Microsoft SideWinder

Modems

MultiFunctional

Portable Audio

Printers

Scanners

SCSI/RAID

Sony Jog Dial

Sound Controllers

Tape drives

Toshiba DVD decoder card

Wireless Ethernet (WLAN)

;# Hardware Support #

Brother Devices

Gravis Digital GamePort

Multi-port serial adapters

Multi-Processor Support

Smart Cards

Teletext codec

Windows CE USB Host

;# Keyboards #

;# Languages #

;# Multimedia #

Acm Core Codecs

ActiveX for streaming video

AOL ART Image Format Support

Images and Backgrounds

Luna Theme

MIDI audio support

Mouse Cursors

Movie Maker

Music Samples

Speech Support

;# Network #

Communication tools

Connection Manager

FrontPage Extensions

Internet Connection Wizard

Internet Information Services (IIS)

IP Conferencing

MSN Explorer

Netmeeting

NetShell Cmd-Tool

Outlook Express

Peer-to-Peer

Synchronization Manager

Vector Graphics Rendering (VML)

Web Folders

Windows Messenger

;# Operating System Options #

.NET Framework

Administrative Templates

Color Schemes

Document Templates

DR Watson

FAT to NTFS converter

File and Settings Wizard

Help

Input Method Editor

Manual Install and Upgrade

Private Character Editor

Save Dump Utility

Search Assistant

Security Center

Tour

Web View

;# Services #

Alerter

Application Layer Gateway

Beep Driver

Distributed Link Tracking Client

Error Reporting

Fax Services

Imapi

Indexing Service

Messenger

Remote Registry

Removable Storage

Secondary Logon

Service Advertising Protocol

Volume Shadow Copy

WebClient

Windows Time

;# Directories #

DOCS

SUPPORT

VALUEADD

;# Compatibility #

Compat01

Compat02

Compat03

Compat04

Compat06

Compat09

[KeepFiles]

msconfig.exe

[RemoveFiles]

clock.avi

[Options]

CABRecompress

GuestName = ""

AdminName = ""

ProfilesDir = "%SystemDrive%\Documents and Settings"

TargetPath = "WINDOWS"

temp_dir = %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp

SrvpEnabled

isovol = WinLite

isoatt = -allow-multidot -no-iso-translate -relaxed-filenames -allow-leading-dots -N -l -d -D -joliet-long -duplicates-once -no-emul-boot -b boot.bin -hide boot.bin -hide boot.catalog

[Patches]

TcpIp = 10

UsbPoll = 125

DoSFC

[services]

AppMgmt,4

EventSystem,3

COMSysApp,3

Browser,2

CryptSvc,2

DHCP,2

MSDTC,3

DNSCACHE,2

EventLog,2

FastUserSwitchingCompatibility,3

HTTP,3

HTTPFilter,3

HidServ,4

IpInIp,3

IpNat,3

IpFilterDriver,3

PolicyAgent,2

Ip6Fw,3

NwlnkFlt,3

NwlnkFwd,3

NDProxy,3

NetLogon,3

Netman,3

NetDDE,4

NetDDEdsdm,4

NLA,3

xmlprov,3

NtLmSsp,3

SysmonLog,3

PlugPlay,2

ProtectedStorage,2

RasAuto,3

RasMan,3

RpcLocator,3

RemoteAccess,4

SamSs,2

LanmanServer,2

SENS,2

LMHosts,2

TapiSrv,3

Themes,2

UPS,3

AudioSrv,2

SharedAccess,2

StiSvc,3

winmgmt,2

WmiApSrv,3

LanmanWorkstation,2

[Tweaks]

Explorer-Change Explorer Folder View to: details

Explorer-Show all files and folders

Explorer-Show Drive Letters in front of Drive Names

Explorer-Show extensions of known file-types

Explorer-Show Statusbar in all windows

Explorer-Use small icons in Explorer bar

Speed-Disable Info Tips on Files and Folders

Speed-Disable Optimize harddisk when idle

Speed-Disable Tracking of Broken Shortcut Links

Speed-Disable Warn on low disk space

Speed-Do not cache thumbnails

Speed-Processor scheduling-Programs

Speed-Use Windows classic folders / No Tasks Sidepanel

Start Menu-Add Administrative Tools menu

Taskbar-Disable Balloon Tips

Taskbar-Disable Group similar Taskbar buttons

Taskbar-Disable Hide inactive icons

Taskbar-Disable Language-Bar

Visual Effects-Animate windows when minimizing and maximizing-Disable

Visual Effects-Combo box animation-Disable

Visual Effects-Cursor shadow-Disable

Visual Effects-Fade out selection-Disable

Visual Effects-Gradient captions in windows-Disable

Visual Effects-Menu animation-Disable

Visual Effects-Menu shadows-Disable

Visual Effects-Menu style-Normal

Visual Effects-Show translucent selection rectangle-Disable

Visual Effects-Show window contents while dragging-Disable

Visual Effects-Tooltip animation-Disable

Visual Effects-Use a background image for each folder type-Disable

Visual Effects-Use visual styles on windows and buttons-Disable

Windows Media Player-Accept Privacy Statement

Windows Media Player-Disable all streaming protocols

Windows Media Player-Disable auto-add music to library

Windows Media Player-Disable automatic codec download

Windows Media Player-Disable metadata retrieval

Windows Media Player-Disable MRU

Windows Media Player-Disable silent acqusition

Windows Media Player-Disable starting with Media Guide

Windows Media Player-Do not show anchor in Designmode

Windows Media Player-Enhanced privacy settings

Windows Media Player-No visualization

Windows Media Player-Optimize fullscreen mode behaviour

Windows Media Player-Remove all context menu entries

Windows Media Player-Zoom video to windowsize

[unattended]

UnattendMode = DefaultHide

DisableOem

ComputerType = Automatic

DisableSRestore

MaximumDataStorePercentOfDisk = 0

RestorePointLife = 0

AutoUDay = 5

AutoUHour = 15

ProgFilesPath = "C:\Program Files"

[NetAdapter1]

connname = ""

macaddress = ""

ipaddress = "192.168.0.1"

subnetmask = "255.255.255.0"

defaultgateway = ""

dnsserver1 = ""

dnsserver2 = ""

winsserver = ""

netbiossetting = "0"

ipxnetworknumber = "00000000"

ipxnetworkframetype = "0xFF"

[NetAdapter2]

connname = ""

macaddress = ""

ipaddress = "192.168.0.2"

subnetmask = "255.255.255.0"

defaultgateway = ""

dnsserver1 = ""

dnsserver2 = ""

winsserver = ""

netbiossetting = "0"

ipxnetworknumber = "00000000"

ipxnetworkframetype = "0xFF"

[GuiRunOnce]

[Drivers]

[Hotfixes]

*******************************************************************

[Main]

Env = 1.0 Final - 2.0.50727.42.Microsoft Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2

Target = Windows XP Home Edition Sp2 - build 2180 - English (United States)

[Tasks]

Remove Components

Unattended Setup

Tweaks

Create a Bootable ISO

Patches

Options

[Components]

;# Applications #

Accessibility Options

Briefcase

Calculator

Charmap

ClipBook Viewer

Games

Internet Games

Paint

Pinball

Screensavers

Wordpad

;# Drivers #

Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM)

Cameras and Camcorders

Display Adapters (old)

Ethernet (LAN)

ISDN

Logitech WingMan

Modems

MultiFunctional

Portable Audio

Printers

Scanners

SCSI/RAID

Sony Jog Dial

Tape drives

Toshiba DVD decoder card

Wireless Ethernet (WLAN)

;# Hardware Support #

Brother Devices

Gravis Digital GamePort

Multi-port serial adapters

Smart Cards

Teletext codec

Windows CE USB Host

;# Keyboards #

All removed

;# Languages #

All removed

;# Multimedia #

Acm Core Codecs

ActiveX for streaming video

AOL ART Image Format Support

Images and Backgrounds

Luna Theme

MIDI audio support

Mouse Cursors

Movie Maker

Music Samples

;# Network #

Communication tools

Connection Manager

FrontPage Extensions

Internet Connection Wizard

Internet Information Services (IIS)

IP Conferencing

MSN Explorer

Netmeeting

NetShell Cmd-Tool

Network Monitor Driver and Tools

NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Protocol

Peer-to-Peer

Synchronization Manager

Vector Graphics Rendering (VML)

Web Folders

Windows Messenger

;# Operating System Options #

.NET Framework

Administrative Templates

Color Schemes

Document Templates

DR Watson

FAT to NTFS converter

File and Settings Wizard

Help

Input Method Editor

Manual Install and Upgrade

Private Character Editor

Save Dump Utility

Search Assistant

Security Center

Tour

Web View

;# Services #

Alerter

Application Layer Gateway

Beep Driver

Distributed Link Tracking Client

Error Reporting

Fax Services

Imapi

Indexing Service

Messenger

Network DDE

Network Location Awareness (NLA)

Remote Registry

Removable Storage

Secondary Logon

Service Advertising Protocol

Volume Shadow Copy

WebClient

Windows Time

;# Directories #

DOCS

SUPPORT

VALUEADD

;# Compatibility #

Compat01

Compat02

Compat03

Compat04

Compat06

Compat09

[KeepFiles]

msconfig.exe

[RemoveFiles]

clock.avi

[Options]

CABRecompress

GuestName = ""

AdminName = ""

ProfilesDir = "%SystemDrive%\Documents and Settings"

TargetPath = "WINDOWS"

temp_dir = %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp

SrvpEnabled

isovol = WinLite

isoatt = -allow-multidot -no-iso-translate -relaxed-filenames -allow-leading-dots -N -l -d -D -joliet-long -duplicates-once -no-emul-boot -b boot.bin -hide boot.bin -hide boot.catalog

[Patches]

TcpIp = 10

UsbPoll = 125

DoSFC

[services]

AppMgmt,4

EventSystem,3

COMSysApp,3

Browser,2

CryptSvc,2

DHCP,2

MSDTC,3

DNSCACHE,2

EventLog,2

FastUserSwitchingCompatibility,3

HTTP,3

HTTPFilter,3

HidServ,4

IpInIp,3

IpNat,3

IpFilterDriver,3

PolicyAgent,2

Ip6Fw,3

NDProxy,3

NetLogon,3

Netman,3

xmlprov,3

NtLmSsp,3

SysmonLog,3

PlugPlay,2

ProtectedStorage,2

RasAuto,3

RasMan,3

RpcLocator,3

RemoteAccess,4

SamSs,2

LanmanServer,2

SENS,2

LMHosts,2

TapiSrv,3

Themes,2

UPS,3

AudioSrv,2

SharedAccess,2

StiSvc,3

winmgmt,2

WmiApSrv,3

LanmanWorkstation,2

[Tweaks]

Explorer-Change Explorer Folder View to: details

Explorer-Show all files and folders

Explorer-Show Drive Letters in front of Drive Names

Explorer-Show extensions of known file-types

Explorer-Show Statusbar in all windows

Explorer-Use small icons in Explorer bar

Speed-Disable Info Tips on Files and Folders

Speed-Disable Optimize harddisk when idle

Speed-Disable Tracking of Broken Shortcut Links

Speed-Disable Warn on low disk space

Speed-Do not cache thumbnails

Speed-Processor scheduling-Programs

Speed-Use Windows classic folders / No Tasks Sidepanel

Start Menu-Add Administrative Tools menu

Taskbar-Disable Balloon Tips

Taskbar-Disable Group similar Taskbar buttons

Taskbar-Disable Hide inactive icons

Taskbar-Disable Language-Bar

Visual Effects-Animate windows when minimizing and maximizing-Disable

Visual Effects-Combo box animation-Disable

Visual Effects-Cursor shadow-Disable

Visual Effects-Fade out selection-Disable

Visual Effects-Gradient captions in windows-Disable

Visual Effects-Menu animation-Disable

Visual Effects-Menu shadows-Disable

Visual Effects-Menu style-Normal

Visual Effects-Show translucent selection rectangle-Disable

Visual Effects-Show window contents while dragging-Disable

Visual Effects-Tooltip animation-Disable

Visual Effects-Use a background image for each folder type-Disable

Windows Media Player-Accept Privacy Statement

Windows Media Player-Disable all streaming protocols

Windows Media Player-Disable auto-add music to library

Windows Media Player-Disable automatic codec download

Windows Media Player-Disable metadata retrieval

Windows Media Player-Disable MRU

Windows Media Player-Disable silent acqusition

Windows Media Player-Disable starting with Media Guide

Windows Media Player-Do not show anchor in Designmode

Windows Media Player-Enhanced privacy settings

Windows Media Player-No visualization

Windows Media Player-Optimize fullscreen mode behaviour

Windows Media Player-Remove all context menu entries

Windows Media Player-Zoom video to windowsize

[unattended]

UnattendMode = DefaultHide

DisableOem

ComputerType = Automatic

DisableSRestore

MaximumDataStorePercentOfDisk = 0

RestorePointLife = 0

AutoUDay = 5

AutoUHour = 15

ProgFilesPath = "C:\Program Files"

[NetAdapter1]

connname = ""

macaddress = ""

ipaddress = "192.168.0.1"

subnetmask = "255.255.255.0"

defaultgateway = ""

dnsserver1 = ""

dnsserver2 = ""

winsserver = ""

netbiossetting = "0"

ipxnetworknumber = "00000000"

ipxnetworkframetype = "0xFF"

[NetAdapter2]

connname = ""

macaddress = ""

ipaddress = "192.168.0.2"

subnetmask = "255.255.255.0"

defaultgateway = ""

dnsserver1 = ""

dnsserver2 = ""

winsserver = ""

netbiossetting = "0"

ipxnetworknumber = "00000000"

ipxnetworkframetype = "0xFF"

[GuiRunOnce]

[Drivers]

[Hotfixes]

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