[D3H6G9]

My impression is it felt like XP with slight improvement.

[clamo]

i love the new inerface. networking is a real bite in the a**. the new screen savers are cool. visuals are nice, back grounds are sharp. the new pic viewer is good, pic's are displayed sharper, but
i dont like the zoom controls. the default drivers for the Nvidia Geforce fx cards suck, hade to install my own to fix problems. sound support blows. and ive already got the dam blue screen lol. but thats windows for ya. this is what i think of the 32bit verson. have not been able to setup the 64bit verson

[LLXX]

Too bloated. Significantly more than XP.

[Scubar]

Agreed, Biggest load of bloatware you can find, there is very little improvement in terms of functionality, all they have focused on is trying to make it look as pretty as possible, If it werent for the fact that ppl are going to have to use it to play all the latest DX10 games i wouldnt ever bother buying it. I certainly wont be buying when it is first launched anyway as thats just plain suicide, only the complete noob m$ fanboys will be doing that.

[3aces]

TBH Vista personally for me is a must... most proberly because of new hardware support and features.. but at this current stage in time Vista needs to be improved alot more... i cant access other computers on my home network at the minute i cant figure out why but hey... and there are alot more services built in which i feel make the OS bloated... i mean a prime example... when you open up a folder in windows explorer.. in the bar across the top a green progress bar goes accross... now what the hell is that... i cant seem to find out... i video edit alot.. and when opening a folder which uncompressed avi footage that progress bar takes the p***... i have also stopped alot of services so Beta 2 is usable as a main OS which i am using... i have 26 processes running 5 mins after boot up

[dnikolov]

Just an improvement of Windows XP with new "Aero" interface and graphical installation insted of the ususal 98/XP installation. Too annoying security system, bad integrated graphics drivers. I like the faster boot time though.

Personally, I prefer the new Mac OS X Leopard, which will be available for Intel-based proccessors too. It's scheduled for release between 7th and 11th of August, if I'm not mistaken.

[ripken204]

WAY too much crap in it, they could easily take out 6gigs of crap, i know i will once nlite can handle it.

[fizban2]

when you refer to crap, can you give some example? i know everyone says there is to much crap but i still don't see examples of it, POW has some good examples (by the way the green bar across the top is the indexing agent checking the folder and reindexing it ) that is why it takes for ever one those folders with huge AVis or movie files.

[XP_2600]

Well, until now i didnt find any feature worth to upgrade my machines to Vista, i have vista runing in a test machine but all what i get is some nice sutff looks alot like Stardock products, no new feature and performance seems sucks even in a new machines, i know that it suppose to be faster in the final code but im still dont think its have a huge improvments or whats force me to upgarde, i know that MS gonna use DirectX 10 as a tool to force people to upgrade to Vista and it will work with gamers who gonna find themselves unable to play the new games in there XP machines, why ?! cause MS dont want to develop DX10 for XP, another why ?! cause they want to sell Vista, thats my opinion until now maybe its change later.

[3aces]

fizban2, on Jul 3 2006, 07:31 PM, said:

when you refer to crap, can you give some example? i know everyone says there is to much crap but i still don't see examples of it, POW has some good examples (by the way the green bar across the top is the indexing agent checking the folder and reindexing it ) that is why it takes for ever one those folders with huge AVis or movie files.

is there any way the indexing rubbish can be stopped i cant find anything out about which services it relies on


dx10 will be relesed on XP because it will also be still a popluar OS and microsoft wont risk product sales like that... they will release Vista hoping 6/10 ppl upgrade andthen a few months on release dx10 on XP.... to be fair i will not be playin games on Vista if i can help it... my nLited XP is amazingly quick so i will be keeping it for a long while

This post has been edited by POW!!: 04 July 2006 - 06:01 AM

[Scubar]

DX10 will not be released on XP, Micro$haft are instead making some improvements in DX9 and will most likely be putting the new version into the service pack.

[fizban2]

Steve is right, from the sounds of it, DX10 has ties to the graphics system that is part of vista, since this is not backwards compatible with XP you will not see any of the DX10 features in XP. i am sure there will be a refresh of DX 9, but if you look, both Nvidia and ATI's next gen cards are both still DX9 based, so there won't be any DX 10 cards out till next year at the earliest i would bet

[XP_2600]

I think technically it shouldnt be NT6 it should be something like NT5.3 or something.

[chris.ftcc]

so far, i have a mixed review......

the good:

fresh looking GUI...nice effects
better security platform (bi-directional firewall, bit-defender built in....Avast functions for anti-vi)
very informative (windows updates, hardware inventory..etc)


the bad:

- very bloated...(551 MB just running after startup -83 for Avast...) i'm sure this will be scaled down a bit before final relase

- new learning curve (users will have a fit over the menu system and the styles......good thing they kept most of windows classic)

- compatibility (crashed when installing Alcohol....i'm sure this will be the case for quite some time...it's a beta, hell)



i've noticed a lot more things good and bad, but the bottom line is it is still very much in beta, so a lot can change between now and next spring...STAY TUNED.....

[stickzilla]

Who knows how big the final release will be, but the first thing that got my attention was the obvious : size.

Workstation imaging is going to take a wee bit longer in the future.

[Madhits45]

The good.. There trying to make it look like a mac. Maybe mac fans will get confused and buy a pc.. Who knows..

Seems to really try to protect you with that new UAC. It asks you every 10 secs if you wanted to do something. Nice try but **** thats annoying. Should be able to tell if the command came from an input device rather then an external basterd.

also good they did not get ride of two much of the old interface of previous windows. I was thinking id see loads of new menus and junk but luckly i found most of the old ones once I could turn them back on.



The bad it is freaking HUGE... With media player and dvd burning windows devender and so much more this thing comes in at a massive 7GB's. Thats like &*%$##@ bigger then my sub 500mb nlited xp boxes. Insane. They need to leave some of this stuff off and if you go into it and want it then it asks for the cd to install. That would cut out 2gb's at least. But after all that there is a lot more of the just pure ms crap that most of us of knocked off with nlite. Drivers for everything know to man and things for blind, def and people that speak a million other languages etc etc.. A lot of junk that could be left untill prompted i think.

Also they broke readyboost making it only be usefull with flash drives/cards that are 256mb or more. LAME... It usta work with 64mb & 128mb cards which i personally have a bunch of. If anyone knows a way to trick vista into using smaller cards through a hack i'd like to know about it.

Overall its a nice start and i'm talking beta 2... They gotta long way to go the way I see it.

[Aegis]

Not much in the way of improvements. Heard they've remade the network and sound stacks, but your money's better spent on a faster connection and an X-fi sound card than buying an entire new OS.

And it's gonna take a long @#$!ing while for nuhi to create an nLite version for this, since the dependencies are nowhere similar to the 2K, XP, 2003 OSes.

This post has been edited by Aegis: 06 July 2006 - 06:40 PM

[ripken204]

Aegis, on Jul 6 2006, 08:39 PM, said:

Not much in the way of improvements. Heard they've remade the network and sound stacks, but your money's better spent on a faster connection and an X-fi sound card than buying an entire new OS.

And it's gonna take a long @#$!ing while for nuhi to create an nLite version for this, since the dependencies are nowhere similar to the 2K, XP, 2003 OSes.

thats why im not gunna buy it for a year

[Aegis]

I'm not buying the next three Windows revision (Vista and beyond) since with every new architecture change, there's bound to be bugs, especially with a codebase as big as Vista's. The NT 5.0 codebase took about three revisions to mature into a stable OS, so I expect NT 6.0 to take that long as well.

[3aces]

Aegis, on Jul 7 2006, 01:52 AM, said:

I'm not buying the next three Windows revision (Vista and beyond) since with every new architecture change, there's bound to be bugs, especially with a codebase as big as Vista's. The NT 5.0 codebase took about three revisions to mature into a stable OS, so I expect NT 6.0 to take that long as well.

thats a good idea... but im not sure i may still upgrade.. sepends on my pocket..at the time.. because i going for the ultimate version...i also hope nuhi is prepared for this.. becasue once its relased.. th requests will be floodig in for nLite... think about it ppl av already requested some sort of version for Beta 2.. well i have anyway... the amount of services i have stopped incresed performance so much i can play games on my machine using th onboard graphics