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Windows File Sharing Not Working At All Unable to connect to my other machine with explorer to copy files Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   nfanrekurb 

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  Posted 04 July 2006 - 03:20 PM

When i type the computer name or it's ip in the explorers adress bar I am rejected with the message asking me to check my spelling. :realmad: Both the server and computer browser services are running on both machines. the one got Norton Internet Annoyance installed but I have turned of it's personal firewall. The computers are hooked to eachother through a Billion Bipac 5102 router/switch, might this in any way cause the problems as it was reset to factory defaults in the time between me using the file sharing possibility and the discovery of it's malfunctioning. What might the problem be?

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 03:36 PM

make sure the computer's windows firewalls are disabled.

also, you didnt just type the ip, right?
you have to put \\ before network names.
my laptop's private ip is 10.0.7.14 and its netbios name is hanabishi, so to get to it from another computer i would type:
\\10.0.7.14
or
\\hanabishi


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Posted 04 July 2006 - 04:17 PM

Windows firewall service is disabled on both machines.

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 05:37 PM

Sounds like you need to start some basic troubleshooting and start eliminating pieces of the chain. Can you ping the other system by name? If not by name, how about by IP?
ping hanabishi
or
ping -a 10.0.7.14

If you can't get a response from those two, then try pinging something outside the suspect switch, like google or your router.

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 12:51 AM

I am not able to ping the other machine in any way. But I was able to ping the router.

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 04:44 AM

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Windows firewall service is disabled on both machines.


There's your problem. Need it running on at least one of the machines. I'd leave it on Automatic for both. Saves worrying about it.

windows firewall/Internet connection sharing service;

"Provides network address translation, addressing, name resolution and/or intrusion prevention services for a home or small office network."

Use The firewall icon in control panel to disable to firewall, but leave the service running!

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 05:08 AM

That doesn't work.

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 06:15 AM

View Posttbs, on Jul 5 2006, 05:44 AM, said:

There's your problem. Need it running on at least one of the machines....
"Provides network address translation, addressing, name resolution and/or intrusion prevention services for a home or small office network."

If using XP Home and trying to share an internet connection this would be true, to be able to resolve another system on the same segment, I don't think so. I may be wrong here since I don't use XP Home and nfanrekurb hasn't really said much about his setup, but it sounds like he's having issues with name resolution or routing, not internet connection sharing.

@nfanrekurb
If you can hit the router from one system can you do the same from the other? Also, you may want to compare the IP settings on both systems to ensure they are similar. Are you using DHCP or static? Also, were you able to ping anything by name?

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 06:25 AM

Maybe the router has a firewall that blocks trafic between computers on the LAN. look for firewall settings in the router config.

if they can access the internet but not eachother, and there is no firewall, this is the only thing i can think of...

(then again, we all know how much a pain windows networking is to get working right.)

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 06:46 AM

From the product page here, the BiPAC 5102 does indeed have a firewall feature. However, I don't think these SOHO routers can firewall the individual ports, just the internal from the external. I'm guessing the router's factory default settings are causing problems, either by it's internal config or changes to the IP settings on the systems, if it was also the DHCP server.

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 06:58 AM

The router is DHCP server and both machines are set to receive ip from it. I reset the switch again and then the machine that was connected to port 3 did not get a connection, i connected it to port for and it still wouldn't connect so i removed the cable of a currently unused machine and put it there port 1 and i got a connection. But the problem is still here. I tried to set up one machine to be a ftp server, but client was unable to connect. It seems all interaction between systems through the switch is denied.

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 07:05 AM

Could you post your ipconfig for both systems?

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 07:19 AM

assigned ips: 192.168.1.0 and 192.168.1.2
network mask: 255.255.255.0 for both
gateway: 192.168.1.254

Dicovered that the other machine a dell wich I am not familiar with list a mach adress behind a second ip adress row in ipconfig concerning ethernet. And ipconfig list additionaly two tunneling cards with machs as ips.

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 07:30 AM

To me it seems the dell computer need all it's network connections reset. Does anyone got a cmd command for that?

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 08:50 AM

192.168.1.0 is a network address so you'll need to change it to something other than the ending 0, like 192.168.1.3. Then verify that the router IP is the same as your gateway IP.
netsh interface ip show config

Which gives an output similar to this:
Configuration for interface "Local Area Connection"
	DHCP enabled:						 Yes
	InterfaceMetric:					  0
	DNS servers configured through DHCP:  192.168.1.15
										  192.168.7.12
										  192.168.7.10
	WINS servers configured through DHCP: 192.168.9.49
										  192.168.10.49
	Register with which suffix:		   Primary only

this will give you information on your current settings. Record the name of the interface which should look something like
Configuration for interface "Local Area Connection"

then if DHCP is not enabled, you can run
netsh interface ip set address name=<the name of your network card> source=<static> addr=<your IP address> mask=<your mask>
Example:
netsh interface ip set address name="Local Area Connection" static 192.168.1.3 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.254

OR
You can use the GUI under Start \ Settings \ Network Connections and adjust the TCP\IP properties under the connection's properties.

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 09:03 AM

I like using netsh but i think in this case we dont need to it, first of all go to your both machines and type ipconfig /release (suppose to get a msg like 0.0.0.0 ), then run this command in both of machines too ipconfig /renew your machines suppose to get a new ip now, in some slight cases you need to clear your address resolution protocol in your machines so you can run this commands it will not make any bad anyway the command is: arp -d (run it in both machines) now ipconfig your machines suppose to find them received IPs from the router DHCP service, next step you have to ping both of machines from each other and ping the router itself if all of them pinged well so we have to move to the next step which is checking the machines if they have firewall enabled then checking the router if it have firewall enabled or not im not sure about your router configuration but if its allowed to be accessed from outside add me to your msn and i could check it for you.

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 09:54 AM

Thanks very much Mordac85 and xp2600. I altered the ip range of the lan to include 192.168.1.0 after resetting the settings of the router. Those commands worked brilliantly, does anybody know about a nice website that may learn me more of such?

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Posted 06 July 2006 - 05:05 AM

You can check this http://www.ss64.com/nt/, there is alot of sites offer similiar lists and maybe you find better ones, but thats what i find.

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