[dhruba.bandopadhyay]

I recently installed Windows 98 SE on a ECS 915G-A (Intel® 915G & ICH6, Socket 775)

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/Prod...=93&LanID=9

motherboard, which has built-in graphics card. Though I do have installed a Nvidia GeForce 4 440 Ti AGP. CPU is a Pentium 4 3.0GHz. Mice is USB not PS/2.

Windows 98 SE installed fine. It wasn't until the reboot with message "Please wait while Windows perform post-install stuff...." that it hangs. It actually boots into Windows 98 SE in safe-mode alright, but then I don't get sound/cd-rom/network/etc. Does anyone have any idea why it is hanging in normal boot up mode? Is it because of no PS/2 mouse detected? Or something else?

[RainyShadow]

Install Win98 using setup.exe /P I
Probably the same error like this

[dhruba.bandopadhyay]

Please see attachment of my bootlog.prv, bootlog.txt, detlog.txt, frunlog.txt netlog.txt & setuplog.txt

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?act=...t&id=163028

[rainyd]

I'm not sure that's the reason but check this article:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...kb;EN-US;312108

[pcalvert]

dhruba.bandopadhyay, on Jul 17 2006, 06:21 AM, said:

I recently installed Windows 98 SE on a ECS 915G-A (Intel® 915G & ICH6, Socket 775)

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Windows 98 SE installed fine. It wasn't until the reboot with message "Please wait while Windows perform post-install stuff...." that it hangs. It actually boots into Windows 98 SE in safe-mode alright, but then I don't get sound/cd-rom/network/etc. Does anyone have any idea why it is hanging in normal boot up mode? Is it because of no PS/2 mouse detected? Or something else?

Did you find a solution to your problem?

Phil

[kartel]

whats your ram size?

[Petr]

dhruba.bandopadhyay, on Jul 17 2006, 12:21 PM, said:

I recently installed Windows 98 SE on a ECS 915G-A (Intel® 915G & ICH6, Socket 775)

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/Prod...=93&LanID=9

motherboard, which has built-in graphics card. Though I do have installed a Nvidia GeForce 4 440 Ti AGP. CPU is a Pentium 4 3.0GHz. Mice is USB not PS/2.

Windows 98 SE installed fine. It wasn't until the reboot with message "Please wait while Windows perform post-install stuff...." that it hangs. It actually boots into Windows 98 SE in safe-mode alright, but then I don't get sound/cd-rom/network/etc. Does anyone have any idea why it is hanging in normal boot up mode? Is it because of no PS/2 mouse detected? Or something else?

What HDD was used and what was the BIOS setting? I cite from the manual:

Quote

ATA/IDE Configuration (Enhanced)
The ATA/IDE option can be configured as either “Enhanced (default)” or
“Compatible” in the BIOS configuration. Windows* 98SE and Windows* Me operating
systems do not support Enhanced mode IDE/Serial ATA resources for more than four
devices. If the ATA/IDE option is set to Enhanced mode, the operating installation will
not be able to recognize the drive, and the installation will fail. Before installing 98SE
or Me, the ATA/IDE configuration must be changed from Enhanced to Compatible
mode

Regarding the drivers, there is no Windows 98 driver for USB2.0 and for the on-board audio.
There is a 3rd party driver for on-board graphics controller: http://my.scitechsoft.com/

Petr

[Chozo4]

Using USB2 drivers by orangeware for mine... unless orangeware doesn't supply usb2 drivers for his board?

The site that shows his mainboard supplies drivers for his onboard audio for 'all windows versions'. Just click the drivers link for that board. http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/Prod...tailName=Driver


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Anyway, The problem might be limited to the fact that you need to limit your ram for the time being until you get everything setup up. Including installing the Unofficial service pack. You can do that in safe mode (since thats as far as you can get) by...

Going to run -> type 'msconfig' -> press enter.
Click the adavanced button.
Put a checkmark in the 'limit memory to' entry and type in 256 for the limit.
Then click ok twice and reboot.

512+mb of ram on a base install can give some abnormal results untill a few tweaks are made.

This post has been edited by Chozo4: 24 July 2006 - 07:20 PM

[Petr]

Chozo4, on Jul 25 2006, 03:15 AM, said:

Using USB2 drivers by orangeware for mine... unless orangeware doesn't supply usb2 drivers for his board?

The site that shows his mainboard supplies drivers for his onboard audio for 'all windows versions'. Just click the drivers link for that board. http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/Prod...tailName=Driver

Orangeware driver version 1.1.0.3 supports ICH4 and ICH5 southbridges only, i915 chipset contains ICH6 southbridge that is not supported and never will be.

"All" means Windows 2000 and Windows XP.

There is no support for High Definition Audio in Windows 98, in fact there is even no support for HDA bus in Windows XP and additional driver supplied by Microsoft has to be installed: Universal Audio Architecture (UAA) High Definition Audio class driver version 1.0a available for Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows 2000

Petr

[dhruba.bandopadhyay]

Thanks guys for your detailed replies.

Yes, the ECS website does provide drivers for all windows series including Windows 98:

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Downloads/Pro...=35&LanID=9

I will try the limiting RAM size you have suggested. There were many other issues people have suggested, such as NSIS.vxd file version, etc. But I haven't seen any errors saying this.

You mentioned unofficial service pack for Windows 98SE? Where can I get this?

[Petr]

dhruba.bandopadhyay, on Jul 25 2006, 10:30 AM, said:

Yes, the ECS website does provide drivers for all windows series including Windows 98:

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Downloads/Pro...=35&LanID=9

But as I mentioned, there are no Windows 98 drivers for certain on-board peripherals - USB2, sound and graphics adapter.

Petr

[DanRSturbo]

Why do you want to run Windows 98 SE on a machine with that spec ? Does windows 98 se run on a machine with a 3 ghx cpu on it bearing in mind it was released during the Intel Pentium and Pentum II cpu's with a max of about 200 mhz cpu's.

[dhruba.bandopadhyay]

Here's a progress update. I ran drwatson in safe mode and got the response:

display adapter not Windows 95 compatible plug-n-play device.

I decided to take out my Nvidia GeForce 4 440 Ti AGP card and set in BIOS to use OnBoard VGA. I followed some procedures on [url="http://www.usbman.com/win98seusbguide.htm"]http://www.usbman.com/win98seusbguide.htm[/url] about BIOS setup (disabling ACPI, APM, etc.). I formated C: and clean reinstalled Windows 98 SE with the command "E:\setup.exe /p i". It fully installed

But still same old hanging during bootup. I boot into Safe-mode and drwatson says same old thing. I even tried installing Unofficial Service Pack 2.1a from

[url="http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html"]http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html[/url]

But still something about the onboard graphics card.

Someone mention they got their Nvidia card working by using Microsoft own drivers instead of Nvidia. I guess my only chance now is to get my Nvidia card working. I set BIOS to use AGP EXPRESS and still same old problem.

Yes, the www.ecs.com.tw lies. It states that the sound, network, video drivers supports Windows 9x. Even the drivers have a sub-folder called Win95, Win98. But when I ran them in safe-mode, it says 'your OS is not supported'.

[quote name='Petr' date='Jul 24 2006, 11:37 PM' post='538193']
What HDD was used and what was the BIOS setting? I cite from the manual:[quote]ATA/IDE Configuration (Enhanced)

Regarding the drivers, there is no Windows 98 driver for USB2.0 and for the on-board audio.
There is a 3rd party driver for on-board graphics controller: [url="http://my.scitechsoft.com/"]http://my.scitechsoft.com/[/url]

Petr
[/quote]

Not sure about ATA/IDE configuration, but I remember it being enhanced. I only got one IDE HD and one IDE DVD-ROM drive and no SATA.

As for the scitechsoft.com, that's great. However, I installed the drivers in safe-mode, and still my PC won't boot. drwatson still says display adapter not compatible plug-in-play. I guess my best chance is to try to get my nvidia card to work in the AGP EXPRESS port, but still no luck..

[pcalvert]

Is there a specific reason why you chose Windows 98 SE? If you can't get Win98SE running on that hardware, then I think you should consider trying Windows 2000 Professional. Another possibility is to install Linux and use that as the host OS. Then install Win98SE into a virtual machine using a program like qemu. Since that computer of yours is fast and has lots of RAM, Win98SE should run well even if it's running inside a virtual machine.

Phil

[heh heh]

java script:emoticon('', 'smid_17') the speed is not the problem, i've run win 98 on an 1.5-128
computer and i am sure i could get it to run on this "faster" comp

[pcalvert]

I noticed that you said that the HDD is IDE, but you didn't say how big it is. That's a rather important detail that you omitted.

Phil

[dhruba.bandopadhyay]

pcalvert, on Aug 2 2006, 08:01 PM, said:

I noticed that you said that the HDD is IDE, but you didn't say how big it is. That's a rather important detail that you omitted.

Phil

It's 120GB HD but I created a 2 GB partition for Windows 98SE (or was it 1GB?)

This post has been edited by dhruba.bandopadhyay: 03 August 2006 - 02:24 AM

[pcalvert]

dhruba.bandopadhyay, on Aug 3 2006, 04:24 AM, said:

pcalvert, on Aug 2 2006, 08:01 PM, said:

I noticed that you said that the HDD is IDE, but you didn't say how big it is. That's a rather important detail that you omitted.

Phil

It's 120GB HD but I created a 2 GB partition for Windows 98SE (or was it 1GB?)

Okay, that seems reasonable. If there are any other problems with Win98SE and a 120 GB HDD, I'm sure someone will speak up. Also, exactly how did you create the partition for Windows 98 SE?

I had an idea a few days ago that might work for you (or it might not). It is based on the idea that the problem may be due to a conflict between different programs or components of the OS, so getting rid of any extra, unessential crap that gets installed with Win98SE may be helpful.

Here's a suggested plan of attack:

Download the demo of 98lite and copy it to a floppy disk or CD.
Boot from the Win98SE CD, select "Boot from CD-ROM," and then select "Start computer with CD-ROM support."
Format the partition-- Z:\win98\format C: (Substitute drive letter for CD-ROM for Z.)
Insert floppy disk and copy 98lite45.exe to HDD.
Run 98lite45.exe to install 98Lite.
Run 98Lite-- C:\98lite\98lite.exe

When it is time to install Windows, choose the "chubby" option. However, if you have a CD of Win95b, then I would choose the "sleek" option to begin with (you can always switch back to "chubby" later, if necessary).

Phil

This post has been edited by pcalvert: 03 August 2006 - 05:28 PM

[pcalvert]

Some other things to consider...

Did you install IE 6? If not, then try it. Then try reinstalling the drivers-- it might help with any drivers that have been giving you trouble. I'm not sure if IE 6 will install in Safe Mode, but go ahead and give it a try; you have nothing to lose.

Regarding 98lite, I should have added that some people prefer to install Windows first and then install 98lite later. For more on that, and other ideas about the best way to set up a Windows 98 SE system, be sure to study this message thread:

install order of win98 system

Good luck.

Phil

[dhruba.bandopadhyay]

pcalvert, on Aug 6 2006, 08:18 PM, said:

Some other things to consider...

Did you install IE 6? If not, then try it. Then try reinstalling the drivers-- it might help with any drivers that have been giving you trouble. I'm not sure if IE 6 will install in Safe Mode, but go ahead and give it a try; you have nothing to lose.

Regarding 98lite, I should have added that some people prefer to install Windows first and then install 98lite later. For more on that, and other ideas about the best way to set up a Windows 98 SE system, be sure to study this message thread:

install order of win98 system

Good luck.

Phil

What is 98lite? and how would that help? Does it have updated drivers? If so then that could help..... is it possible to boot/run 98lite of CD-ROM? I do not have a floppy disk drive....