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#1 User is offline   crayoxided 

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 05:59 PM

Before I HFSlip'd my XP SP2, I searched the MSFN boards to try and understand why KB894391 and KB902400 were not in Tomcat76 dynamic list of updates to be downloaded.

As best as I could determine, KB894391 was superceeded by KB902400 and it was superceeded by KB913580. However, when I run a fresh HFSlip'd install against windowsupdate.microsoft.com, it complains that 894391 and 902400 are missing.

I left out these optional updates:

KB896344 Cannot transfer from XPSP2 32-bit to XP 64-bit
KB900485 "Stop 0x7E in aec.sys" error message
KB904942 Issue with MSOE6 when installing MSIE7
KB909520 Update for Microsoft Base Smart Card CSP


and I left out these because a base install of XP SP2 did not call for them:

KB917537 Vulnerability in MS IIS using ASP
KB912817 COM+ Hotfix Rollup Package 13
KB901190 Vulnerability in the Korean IME
KB885626 Systems running Prescott C-0 w/o BIOS support


Since I am so new to HFSlip, I am learning how to get windowsupdate happy before I tackle the options for bloat. Am I missing something?


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Posted 12 August 2006 - 06:32 PM

902400 is only replaced by 913580 on Windows 2000. On XP, it is replaced by 912817, which is in your list of files you did not include.

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 07:20 PM

Thanks for the reply.

Outside of something, I guess, like WSUS, how does one find out about what is being superceeded?

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 08:01 PM

View Postcrayoxided, on Aug 12 2006, 08:20 PM, said:

Thanks for the reply.

Outside of something, I guess, like WSUS, how does one find out about what is being superceeded?

By reading the KB article.

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 08:15 PM

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By reading the KB article.
lol. I did! :)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/912817

No where, that I could see, did it state that 912817 superceeded 902400. And if it is superceeding, why did windowsupdate not sense that when it scanned the base install?

Very newbie questions, I know, and since I'm an RTFM guy myself ... it is killing me to behind on this learning curve. Is there a FAQ or a website somewhere that I can get up to speed on these types of questions?

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 09:07 PM

For security hotfixes, you can find info on which previous hotfixes they replace on their KB article pages.

The COM+ Rollups contain a collection of both security and optional updates which is why they aren't offered on Windows Update. I agree that the hotfix replacement info on their KB article pages could've been more verbose; individual file and version comparisons had to be done in order to find out more, for which the_guy takes credit.

You can still include KB894391 and KB902400 instead of the Rollup if you like.

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 09:28 PM

Excellent! :thumbup

Again, thanks for the reply.

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