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Posted 30 August 2006 - 01:00 AM

Just a quick query on installations with nLite - what signs are there that nLite has been used on the machine after it has been installed?

Registry entries? Files in \WINDOWS?

Any info would be good.


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Posted 30 August 2006 - 01:47 AM

Some inf files, such as intl.inf have a comment at the end:
; Customized by nLite - www.nliteos.com


There's an nlite.inf file too on the disk.

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Posted 30 August 2006 - 04:40 AM

Wraith, I guess you want to detect it and warn users or something.

Anyway just see if there is nlite.in_ in the i386 folder.

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Posted 30 August 2006 - 04:53 AM

View Postnuhi, on Aug 30 2006, 09:40 PM, said:

Wraith, I guess you want to detect it and warn users or something.

Precisely.

View Postnuhi, on Aug 30 2006, 09:40 PM, said:

Anyway just see if there is nlite.in_ in the i386 folder.

Was also thinking about post-installation - I'm guessing that \windows\inf\nlite.inf is going to be what we'll go with in that case.
No associated registry entries at all?
Ta muchly.

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Posted 30 August 2006 - 05:07 AM

Yes later in the INF folder.

No reg entries. Good idea though.

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Posted 30 August 2006 - 08:37 AM

hmm, working on an "If you removed IE Core with nLite, XPlode won't work!!!111" error message? ;)

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Posted 30 August 2006 - 08:48 AM

:)
Just in case that something like that is true it's better to test if there are no needed files there, nlite isn't the only way to remove files.

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Posted 30 August 2006 - 05:17 PM

View PostRyanVM, on Aug 31 2006, 01:37 AM, said:

hmm, working on an "If you removed IE Core with nLite, XPlode won't work!!!111" error message? ;)


Haha, kinda :P

View Postnuhi, on Aug 31 2006, 01:48 AM, said:

:)
Just in case that something like that is true it's better to test if there are no needed files there, nlite isn't the only way to remove files.


Well, I was going to be doing that already, but I was trying to figure out whether it would be quicker to query nlite's output :P

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Posted 01 September 2006 - 10:01 AM

Wraith, so what you're saying is that you will discriminate people who use nLite ? That would only hurt your sales.

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Posted 01 September 2006 - 05:45 PM

Sales? Ha! :P

XPlode's free now, and going mostly open-source.

I just don't want to waste my time, as well as the time of others, when people have removed stuff that is needed and want support.

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Posted 01 September 2006 - 07:53 PM

Maybe I misunderstood you but you'll put detection if nlite.inf exists that they did something wrong?

Just tell me in PM which components affect you (or the loss of functionality) and I'll tell you quickly which files to check for.

People are using all kinds of removal techniques, nlite is for many to integrate drivers and hotfixes, nothing which can corrupt your preciousss

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Posted 01 September 2006 - 08:32 PM

Initially it'll be a quick check, rather than having to check other places afterwards.
If I know nLite has removed stuff, then I shouldn't need to check other places.

It's still a way off before I need to sort that stuff out, so I'll get back to you via PM a bit closer to when it's nearing completion.

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Posted 02 September 2006 - 04:02 AM

You constantly jump around the straight answer.

How do you know that people removed anything, let alone the only 1-2 components that you need by the presence of one file?

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Posted 02 September 2006 - 04:35 AM

I don't.
The main component that I get emails about is Internet Explorer, and so far, all problems have been introduced by IE being removed by nLite.
I figure that if there are ways to check if nLite has been used, then I could possibly figure out from there whether required bits are missing.
That said, I've not mucked around with nLite to any great degree, so I don't really know whether I can use the files it generates to figure out whether needed components have been removed.
As I said, I shall pursue this a bit closer to completion, because if I can gather as much information about the installed environment, the easier it'll be for me.

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Posted 02 September 2006 - 09:05 PM

View PostWraith, on Sep 2 2006, 04:35 AM, said:

That said, I've not mucked around with nLite to any great degree, so I don't really know whether I can use the files it generates to figure out whether needed components have been removed.


Thats what he is saying, he is saying you CAN figure out what was removed, and that he will be glad to tell you HOW to tell if something necessary was removed if you just tell him which components you do need. :thumbup
(unless i totally misread the post in which case, sorry :P)

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