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#1 User is offline   hougtimo 

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Posted 01 September 2006 - 01:05 PM

Hi,

I have recently upgraded my rig to an athlon 64 x2 4200+ (socket am2). I have tried to OC this, as some people have got in excess of 3GHz of of it, but if i go above 230htt windows BSODs on me or freezes. Is there something im missing here?

Board : Asrock ALIVENF4G-DVI
CPU : AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (am2)

Cheers

HougTimo


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Posted 01 September 2006 - 01:30 PM

well i'de have to guess its the mobo. but have you tried setting your ram on a divider? and how are you testing your oc? and what heatsink/temps do you have?

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Posted 01 September 2006 - 01:41 PM

Yep, tried a ram divider (200MHz), could it be HT holding me back? I can't find an option in the bios for altering it?

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Posted 01 September 2006 - 03:19 PM

how high is ur voltage set to?

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Posted 02 September 2006 - 02:28 AM

1.32v, but it seems that that is locked and i cant change it. well i can, but only downwards :S

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Posted 02 September 2006 - 04:29 AM

Right, I've had some success. My processor will clock right up to 3GHz easily, but only when dual core support is turned off in the bios. The bluescreen i was getting was "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" could it be a windows problem? or driver problem?

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Posted 02 September 2006 - 08:39 AM

if your overclocking that much u will most likely need to up the vcore, not sure how easy that is on an Asrock board as they are budget boards and not designed for high overclocks.

You will most likely find there is a voltmod that u can do so that it enables u to up the voltages.

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Posted 02 September 2006 - 10:03 AM

i read that your board can do 1.4v, which isnt much at all... for 3ghz you would most likely need at least 1.5v. do you have any of the amd drivers for dual core installed? also the dual core optimizer?

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Techni...1_13118,00.html

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Posted 02 September 2006 - 12:59 PM

I'm F'ed if i wanna use this board then?

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Posted 03 September 2006 - 12:09 PM

No you are not...

"...could it be HT holding me back? I can't find an option in the bios for altering it?"

You already gave the answer your self, the chipset normally works on 1000MHz (2000) bridge speed, so set to 230MHz it will give you 1150MHz and that could be a problem on a NF4. Set it to 800MHz in the BIOS en try again to OC more. Look for it in the BIOS, it MUST be there.

EDIT: If you get stuck again with the OC then it must be your RAM. ASRock is a budget but not low-end...

This post has been edited by puntoMX: 03 September 2006 - 12:10 PM


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Posted 04 September 2006 - 10:55 AM

is HT the NB-SB or cpu - NB/SB link?

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 11:16 AM

EDIT :: NVM found it. Nope, even with the HT set low, its still BSODing, i also had a huge divider on ram, so does this bring up back to the voltage problem?

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 12:37 PM

View Posthougtimo, on Sep 2 2006, 06:29 AM, said:

The bluescreen i was getting was "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" could it be a windows problem? or driver problem?

HougTimo


Your processor isn't stable. That's a typical BSOD of the processor requiring more Vcore or at an OC wall.

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 02:46 PM

View PostRJARRRPCGP, on Sep 4 2006, 06:37 PM, said:

View Posthougtimo, on Sep 2 2006, 06:29 AM, said:

The bluescreen i was getting was "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" could it be a windows problem? or driver problem?

HougTimo


Your processor isn't stable. That's a typical BSOD of the processor requiring more Vcore or at an OC wall.

Thats what I'm saying, and I can't increade the Vcore, because the motherboard will only go upto 1.35v, unless someone knows of a voltmod for it?

HougTimo

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 06:14 PM

you may also want to look for a modded bios

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Posted 07 September 2006 - 08:09 AM

I'm sorry, but what exactly is that picture trying to say? I don't understand at all LoL

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Posted 07 September 2006 - 08:52 AM

lol, im not too sure either, but thats all i could find on the subject...
http://www.ocworkbench.com/2006/asrock/ALi...I_Vcore_mod.htm

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Posted 07 September 2006 - 10:57 AM

hehe, ok cheers anyways :D

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Posted 07 September 2006 - 11:52 AM

im not sure if connecting those things where the red is pointing at is what u want, but i'de have to guess so...

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Posted 07 September 2006 - 12:03 PM

The picture means that if you can vary your Vcore add a 51K ohm resistor
As shown in the picture. “R” is the resistor and the red lines are the resistors leads.
And if you cannot vary your Vcore try a resistor between 5 and 12K ohm there.

But remember as in ripkin204's link-

Disclaimer : The author and OCW is not responsible for any damage you make to your mainboard. Note that any mods make to your board renders all warranty provided by the manufacturer.

This post has been edited by RJM: 07 September 2006 - 12:11 PM


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