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Posted 05 September 2006 - 12:25 PM

Hi folks. Hoping somebody can easily take me through an installation of 98SE. I've downloaded so far the unofficial service pack and updates from this page:

http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#98SE

I got some info about my system using sifost sandra which I've included down below. My BIG concern is for my wireless net as I fear it might not work. Anything else recommended I download?




SiSoftware Sandra

System
Host Name : NUT-612DD8FA5D6
User : Administrator
Workgroup : NETGEAR

Processor
Model : Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.20GHz
Speed : 3.19GHz
Performance Rating : PR3990 (estimated)
Cores per Processor : 1 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 2 Unit(s)
Internal Data Cache : 16kB Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way set, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
L2 On-board Cache : 2MB ECC Synchronous, ATC, 8-way set, 64 byte line size, 2 lines per sector, 2 threads sharing

Mainboard
Bus(es) : ISA PCI PCIe IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
MP Support : 1 Processor(s)
MP APIC : Yes
System BIOS : Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG
System : MEDIONPC MS-7091
Mainboard : MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD MS-7091
Total Memory : 1GB DDR-SDRAM

Chipset 1
Model : Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/GL/P/PL/GL Grantsdale Host Bridge/DRAM Controller
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 200MHz (800MHz data rate)
Total Memory : 1GB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate)

Video System
Monitor/Panel : Medion MD30217PG C07
Adapter : MEDION RADEON X740XL (Omega 3.8.273)
Adapter : MEDION RADEON X740XL Secondary (Omega 3.8.273)
Imaging Device : Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000

Physical Storage Devices
Hard Disk : WDC WD1600JD-00HBB0 (149GB)
Hard Disk : WDC WD1600JD-22HBB0 (149GB)
Hard Disk : Generic CF Card CF USB Device
Hard Disk : Generic MS/SD Combo MS USB Device
Hard Disk : Generic SM/xD Combo SM USB Device
CD-ROM/DVD : HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B (CD 52X Rd) (DVD 7X Rd)
CD-ROM/DVD : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 (CD 40X Rd, 40X Wr) (DVD 5X Rd, 5X Wr)
CD-ROM/DVD : MF5031S QFG921C SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd) (DVD 4X Rd)
CD-ROM/DVD : MF5031S QFG921C SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd) (DVD 4X Rd)
CD-ROM/DVD : MF5031S QFG921C SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd) (DVD 4X Rd)
CD-ROM/DVD : MF5031S QFG921C SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd) (DVD 4X Rd)

Logical Storage Devices
HARD DISK (C:) : 149GB (70GB, 47% Free Space) (FAT32)
GOODIES (D:) : 149GB (37GB, 25% Free Space) (FAT32)
CD-ROM/DVD (H:) : N/A
CD-ROM/DVD (I:) : N/A
CD-ROM/DVD (E:) : N/A
CD-ROM/DVD (K:) : N/A
CD-ROM/DVD (L:) : N/A
CD-ROM/DVD (M:) : N/A
Removable Drive (F:) : N/A
Removable Drive (G:) : N/A
Removable Drive (J:) : N/A

Peripherals
Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 2 COM / 1 LPT
USB Controller/Hub : Intel® 82801FB/FBM USB Universal Host Controller - 2658
USB Controller/Hub : Intel® 82801FB/FBM USB Universal Host Controller - 2659
USB Controller/Hub : Intel® 82801FB/FBM USB Universal Host Controller - 265A
USB Controller/Hub : Intel® 82801FB/FBM USB Universal Host Controller - 265B
USB Controller/Hub : Intel® 82801FB/FBM USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 265C
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Composite Device
USB Controller/Hub : Logitech USB Camera (Pro 4000)
USB Controller/Hub : Generic USB Hub
USB Controller/Hub : X10 USB Wireless Transceiver (ACPI-compliant)
USB Controller/Hub : Sony Ericsson USB Flash
USB Controller/Hub : USB Mass Storage Device
FireWire/1394 Controller/Hub : VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Bluetooth Device : Microsoft Bluetooth Enumerator
Bluetooth Device : MSI USB Bluetooth Device
Keyboard : Microsoft USB Dual Receiver Wireless Keyboard (IntelliType Pro)
Keyboard : HID Keyboard Device
Mouse : Microsoft USB Dual Receiver Wireless Mouse (IntelliPoint)
Mouse : HID-compliant mouse
Human Interface : Bluetooth HID Device
Human Interface : HID-compliant consumer control device
Human Interface : HID-compliant consumer control device
Human Interface : HID-compliant device
Human Interface : USB Human Interface Device
Human Interface : USB Human Interface Device

MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : NebVideo, WDM Video Capture
Device : NebAudio, WDM Audio/MPEG2 Capture

Communication Device(s)
Device : Standard Modem over Bluetooth link

Printers and Faxes
Model : Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
Model : Adobe PDF

Power Management
AC Line Status : On-Line

Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Professional 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 2)

Network Services
Adapter : VIA Rhine III Fast Ethernet Adapter

Performance Tips
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Notice 5902 : DVD 1x= 11.08Mbps Exercise caution when comparing measured versus published ratings.
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Posted 05 September 2006 - 12:41 PM

After a real quick google search here are your drivers on this page...

http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 02:27 PM

The following drivers may be required for Windows 98SE:

Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/GL/P/PL/GL Grantsdale Host Bridge/DRAM Controller
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support...finst_autol.exe
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support.../ENG/readme.txt
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support...eleasenotes.htm

Monitor/Panel : Medion MD30217PG C07
http://download2.med...ber/display.exe

Adapter : MEDION RADEON X740XL (Omega 3.8.273)
Catalyst 6.2 https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default...mp;folderID=297
Omega drivers: http://www.omegadriv...ti/win9x_me.php (no idea if it supports X740XL)

Imaging Device: Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/download...tid=6023,OSID=5

USB Controller/Hub : Intel® 82801FB/FBM USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 265C
No driver for Windows 98/98SE/Me

X10 USB Wireless Transceiver
http://www.x10.com/p...s/x10_cm19a.htm
ftp://ftp.x10.com/pu...acker/ck18a.exe - no idea if it supports Win98

VIA Rhine III Fast Ethernet Adapter
http://www.viaarena.com/Driver/VT6105_VT61...106Sv28FVIA.zip
or http://www.viaarena....105Mv25FVIA.zip

Windows 98SE has no support for Intel ICH6 SATA controller, you can use your SATA hard disks in the following two modes:
SATA only: 4 SATA disks are emulated as PATA disks, in this mode no PATA disks/CD-ROMs can be used
Combined: 2 SATA disks are emulated as PATA disks and 2 PATA disks can be used. BIOS in my MSI Speedster 915GM motherboard does not have this setting, all BIOSes in Gigabyte motherboards have it, you have to check this.

You have 4 SCSI CD-ROMs in your system?

I'm not able to identify the wireless network adapter in the SiSoft Sandra output. Everest output is much better for this purpose.

For all other items there is not sufficient information in your post.

The biggest problem will be lack of USB2 support, the only solution would be to buy some VT6212 or uPD720101 USB card if you have free PCI slot, it costs $5 - $10 only.

Also the disk arrangement may be the problem.

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 02:47 PM

View PostPetr, on Sep 5 2006, 09:27 PM, said:

The following drivers may be required for Windows 98SE:

Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/GL/P/PL/GL Grantsdale Host Bridge/DRAM Controller
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support...finst_autol.exe
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support.../ENG/readme.txt
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support...eleasenotes.htm

Monitor/Panel : Medion MD30217PG C07
http://download2.med...ber/display.exe

Adapter : MEDION RADEON X740XL (Omega 3.8.273)
Catalyst 6.2 https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default...mp;folderID=297
Omega drivers: http://www.omegadriv...ti/win9x_me.php (no idea if it supports X740XL)

Imaging Device: Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/download...tid=6023,OSID=5

USB Controller/Hub : Intel® 82801FB/FBM USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 265C
No driver for Windows 98/98SE/Me

X10 USB Wireless Transceiver
http://www.x10.com/p...s/x10_cm19a.htm
ftp://ftp.x10.com/pu...acker/ck18a.exe - no idea if it supports Win98

VIA Rhine III Fast Ethernet Adapter
http://www.viaarena.com/Driver/VT6105_VT61...106Sv28FVIA.zip
or http://www.viaarena....105Mv25FVIA.zip

Windows 98SE has no support for Intel ICH6 SATA controller, you can use your SATA hard disks in the following two modes:
SATA only: 4 SATA disks are emulated as PATA disks, in this mode no PATA disks/CD-ROMs can be used
Combined: 2 SATA disks are emulated as PATA disks and 2 PATA disks can be used. BIOS in my MSI Speedster 915GM motherboard does not have this setting, all BIOSes in Gigabyte motherboards have it, you have to check this.

You have 4 SCSI CD-ROMs in your system?

I'm not able to identify the wireless network adapter in the SiSoft Sandra output. Everest output is much better for this purpose.

For all other items there is not sufficient information in your post.

The biggest problem will be lack of USB2 support, the only solution would be to buy some VT6212 or uPD720101 USB card if you have free PCI slot, it costs $5 - $10 only.

Also the disk arrangement may be the problem.

Petr



Only 4 CD Drives purely as I have daemon tools installed. The wireless card I believe is the RTS2500USB. Soundcard I'll investigate. Also my 2 drives are 149 and 148GB.......will I need anything special?

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 07:05 PM

View PostNUTTER123, on Sep 5 2006, 03:47 PM, said:

Also my 2 drives are 149 and 148GB.......will I need anything special?
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 12:14 AM

View PostNUTTER123, on Sep 5 2006, 10:47 PM, said:

Only 4 CD Drives purely as I have daemon tools installed. The wireless card I believe is the RTS2500USB. Soundcard I'll investigate. Also my 2 drives are 149 and 148GB.......will I need anything special?


I cannot find any wireless adapter named RTS2500USB.

If you are using on-board audio it should be CMedia CMI9880L and there is no support for High Definition Audio in Windows 98/98SE/Me.

At present I see the following problems:
No USB2 driver
No Audio driver
No native SATA driver, it has to be checked if the BIOS has the ability to set 2 SATA + 2 PATA mode
Unknown status of your wireless adapter

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 06:09 AM

View PostLLXX, on Sep 6 2006, 01:05 AM, said:

View PostNUTTER123, on Sep 5 2006, 03:47 PM, said:

Also my 2 drives are 149 and 148GB.......will I need anything special?
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Just 1 more question (sooner this gets answered the sooner I can go to work and give it a shot) :D

How do I install that? I realise I have to do it in DOS mode so I would assume instakk 98 first and do something in real DOS mode? Assume that would mean copying and pasting that using command prompt? To what folder?

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 04:19 PM

I think MDGx made an installer for this, but the files are in Windows\System\iosubsys folder.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 04:34 PM

View PostNUTTER123, on Sep 6 2006, 07:09 AM, said:

View PostLLXX, on Sep 6 2006, 01:05 AM, said:

View PostNUTTER123, on Sep 5 2006, 03:47 PM, said:

Also my 2 drives are 149 and 148GB.......will I need anything special?
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Just 1 more question (sooner this gets answered the sooner I can go to work and give it a shot) :D

How do I install that? I realise I have to do it in DOS mode so I would assume instakk 98 first and do something in real DOS mode? Assume that would mean copying and pasting that using command prompt? To what folder?
Just search for "ESDI_506.PDR" and you'll find where the existing file is, copy the new one over it from DOS mode (actually, it seems you can copy it from within Windows as the file is not locked unlike the kernel, but a reboot is probably needed to load the new driver.)

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