[Kiki Burgh]

hi IcemanND! i use your tool everytime i back-up drivers, esp for UA installation ... would there be a chance this great tool could get an update? thanks!

[IcemanND]

I intend to update it for WIn7 and full 64-bit, but my real work is going to have to slow down a little bit before it is going to happen.

[Kiki Burgh]

thank you! looking forward to it. cheers!

[lodoss900]

would someone point me to the updated version of IcemanND's software

mucho gracias

[IcemanND]

Updated for what? currently what is here is what there is.

[willko]

Where can I download version 2.1.83 please? ( as per Ricktendo's helpful video)

See attached screenshot

LOL!!! - check my link ... DOH!!!

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This post has been edited by willko: 21 February 2010 - 03:43 AM

[IcemanND]

Hmmm, I vaguely recall having done that to fix a specific problem Ricktendo was experiencing. I'll look for it and update when i find it, might take me a day to search my backups.

Didn't know he put it in a video, I certainly haven't seen my royalty check yet.

[ricktendo]

IcemanND, on 21 February 2010 - 01:49 PM, said:

Hmmm, I vaguely recall having done that to fix a specific problem Ricktendo was experiencing. I'll look for it and update when i find it, might take me a day to search my backups.

Didn't know he put it in a video, I certainly haven't seen my royalty check yet.

Its a FREE video I did on how to backup & integrate drivers, recommended your tool over Driver Genius and other driver backup progies because you rename the inf fine (you don't leave it as oem#.inf)

[IcemanND]

Completely forgot I did that version. Must be working for you.

v2.1.8.3 added to first post.

[ricktendo]

Yup, you had me test it for you a loooooong time ago (you were making a version that does not require .net 1.1), used it when I had Vista and now with Windows 7 (works like a charm) it only needs mscomctl.ocx activex runtime or one of those

This post has been edited by ricktendo64: 22 February 2010 - 01:17 PM

[IcemanND]

ricktendo64, on 22 February 2010 - 01:16 PM, said:

Yup, you had me test it for you a loooooong time ago (you were making a version that does not require .net 1.1), used it when I had Vista and now with Windows 7 (works like a charm) it only needs mscomctl.ocx activex runtime or one of those

Knew there was something it needed.

[wingbird]

Outstanding - everyone was right including yourself were right iceman, this kicks all other driver backup tools out of the ballpark
Thanks a lot for this

[jaclaz]

mscomctl.ocx is part of the VB6 Common Controls package:
http://support.micro...kb/896559/en-us

The good guys at MS have made it so that you need to have it in order to be allowed to have it :
http://www.microsoft...14-64662f5f62fe

Quote

Overview
This package updates two Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0 Common Controls: mscomctl.ocx and comctl32.ocx to address the issues described in the KB articles noted in the Related Resources section on this page.
This package will not install these Common Controls if they do not already exist on the target system. This package cannot be uninstalled.

This package is provided under the terms of the End User License Agreement and is intended for the following customers:

• Customers who are Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0 and/or Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 licensees.
  
• Customers who are not licensees of Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0 nor Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 but are using older versions of the two Common Controls.

And of course the good Linux guys have a way to get it nonetheless
http://www.kegel.com/wine/winetricks

the limit is your conscience.

The files are also in VB6 SP6:
http://www.microsoft...&displaylang=en


but NOT in the REDISTRIBUTABLE "Service Pack 6 for Visual Basic 6.0: Run-Time Redistribution Pack (vbrun60sp6.exe)"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290887
http://www.microsoft...&displayLang=en


But they are in the
http://support.micro...kb/957924/en-us
http://www.microsoft...&displaylang=en
which has NOT requirements like the ones on the mentioned VB6 Common Controls page.

The even more interesting part is that the file is available here:
http://activex.micro...b6/mscomctl.cab

Info taken from:
http://web.archive.o...kb/193366/en-us

Basically, if you call mscomctl.ocx an ActiveX control you can download it freely, if you call it "VB6 file" you cannot.

Which means two things:

• the MS guys are to say the least "mercurial"
  
• the Linux guys are sometimes not as "kosher" as they like to depict themselves

And a third one :

• why the heck this nice program needs an unredistributable file in order to work?

jaclaz

[IcemanND]

jaclaz, on 01 March 2010 - 08:50 AM, said:

And a third one :

• why the heck this nice program needs an unredistributable file in order to work?

jaclaz

At the time of that re-write I was trying to stay away from .NET since it was not yet widely distributed/downloaded/installed and everyone was complaining about it. Much easier to find and install the activex control than the .NET redistributable, at the time. Maybe the next version if I do one I'll do in full .NET instead of using .NET to wrap the code in like the first version.

I believe the check-listbox is the control that requires it, and there isn't one that works as easily built into the VB6 arch.

[jaclaz]

IcemanND, on 01 March 2010 - 08:56 AM, said:

Maybe the next version if I do one I'll do in full .NET instead of using .NET to wrap the code in like the first version.

Please don't!

We have just found a perfectly legal and easy way to get from Microsoft a .cab sized 479,056 bytes(compressed) that ends up as a 1,069,376 .ocx file that makes your nice app work perfectly and you want to replace it with a few tens of thousands of bloat?

If you are gonna rewrite it from scratch, use Assembler.

Completely OT, but check what can be done in 164,362 bytes:
http://www.quickersoft.com/donkey/
http://www.quickerso...winexplorer.htm

jaclaz

[IcemanND]

My assembler is a little rusty, like by 25 some odd years.

I've actually used winexplorer.

[DaveWI]

Hey Iceman, Great tool, I love it!! Thanks.

Quick question to any else, or you... I've been using it on all the Dell PC's we have around here fine... except today on a Dell Optiplex 755, Runtime Error '13'Type Mismatch.

Anyone else get that, and know a fix? I tried re-registering MSCOMCLT.OCX but no go. I ended up using a different tool (Siginet's driver grabber) so this isn't a need now or rush answer, but I prefer to use Iceman's.

Thanks.

[IcemanND]

Which version were you using? 2.183 I assume.

What driver was it dying on? would it do some and not others? and what OS?

[DaveWI]

IcemanND, on 24 March 2010 - 11:27 AM, said:

Which version were you using? 2.183 I assume.

What driver was it dying on? would it do some and not others? and what OS?

Windows XP pro, yes 2.183. I tried at first of course check all, but then I tried 3 or 4 of them alone and it died every time at the same point.

If you want detailed info I can get more for you, but right now it is a VP's computer and I can't really interrupt him until the end of the day.

Here's what Siginet's grabbed:
Intel® 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection
Intel® Active Management Technology - SOL (COM3)
Intel® ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293A
Intel® ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293C
Intel® ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2934
Intel® ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2935
Intel® ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2936
Intel® ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2937
Intel® ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2938
Intel® ICH9 SATA AHCI Controller
Intel® Q35 Express Chipset Family
SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio

I thought yours found more than 12, but I can be certain right now.

I'll re-create it later and let you know.

[IcemanND]

Typically I run into this error with some video drivers (mainly ATI they are a royal pain) and some of the HD Audio drivers.