[MDGx]

soporific:

I was looking through your list [May 16 2007 update]:

- Tools9x.exe link must preserve the upper case:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/TOOLS9X.EXE
My web server is case sensitive.
Your link:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/Tools9X.EXE
returns a 404 error, file not found.
Same here:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/IE931768.exe
must be replaced with:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/IE931768.EXE
If you wish to see the actual URLs to all my files:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/list.php
http://www.mdgx.com/spx/list.php

- IE Audio WAV fix:
M$ has the file on their WU servers, no need to mirror [unless you like to]:
* Microsoft Internet Explorer 4/5/6 for Windows 9x/NT4/2000/ME Compressed Audio START.WAV Fix:
http://support.micro....com/?id=327922
Direct download [79 KB]:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownlo...DCB7AD3B062.EXE

- KernelEx:
I have changed the link from:
http://www.mdgx.com/spx/KERNELEX.ZIP
to [both versions now]:
* Unofficial Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE/ME KernelEx allows to install + run NTx-only + XP-only applications + games (free GPL):
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=71476
- KernelEx 0.3.1 Test [68 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/spx/KX031.ZIP
- KernelEx 0.3.0 Stable [65 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/spx/KX030.ZIP

HTH

[soporific]

ta muchly, and thanks for the other reply as well.

[Fredledingue]

Soporific,

I don't find in your list 78 items released since uSP2.1a, and which were mentioned on MDGx's thread (98 FE + 98 SE + ME updates + patches + (hot)fixes)
(All these files have been downloaded from this thread.)

237493USA8
249973USA8
50COMUPD_DLL5-80PATCH
908519FX
ACTIVEXSCRIPTCONTROL1-01-0-0-8825
ADDREMOV
COPY2GB
CRYPT9X
DCOM98UP
DIRECTX_OCT2006_REDIST
DISKMIND
DTI
DTI_V2
DX9CPL
DXM9XIE5
EXPLOR98
FLASH9-0-45-0_W98
FLASHPLAYER7-0-63_WINAX
IE6-0SP1-KB916281
IE6UPD
IE813451
IE834707
IE883586
IE890573
IE905495
IE918899
IE922760
IE925486
IE925568
IE928090
IE931768
INSTALL_FLASH_PLAYER_ACTIVE_X
INSTMSIA
JAVARUNTIME-1_5_0_12-I586-P
KB917344-X86
KB917734_WINDOWSMEDIA9
KB918547-SLV
KLCODEC281F
MDIE6CU
MDPOSTCU
NUSB30E
OE911567
OE923694
OUTLOOKEXPRESS6-0_PATCH911567
Q222930
Q816362
Q817914
Q824220
Q834158
Q886677
Q891711F
Q893627
Q896156
Q909363
Q912919
Q918547
Q919587
Q920213
Q920670
Q923689
Q923694
Q924191
Q925398
Q925672
Q926247
Q927978
Q929120
Q931836
ROOTSUPD
RUNHELP
SETUPAPI
TOOLS9X
TTFPAK
U891711
U918547
VC6REDISTSETUP_ENU
VCREDIST_X86

Note that there is also 136 items from your list which I DON'T have!!

[soporific]

Fredledingue, on Jun 1 2007, 09:35 AM, said:

Soporific,

I don't find in your list 78 items released since uSP2.1a, and which were mentioned on MDGx's thread (98 FE + 98 SE + ME updates + patches + (hot)fixes)
(All these files have been downloaded from this thread.)
<snip>
Note that there is also 136 items from your list which I DON'T have!!

That's a mighty fine list you have there ... once in a while i get feedback worth a ton of gold ... and this is one of them. Thanks to you !! I'll be slowly working my way thru the list in the next few days ... lots will be added to both the main list and obsolete list i have no doubt. Thanks again!

EDIT: i take it all back !!!! Well, i'm not taking back the thanks for the thought to tell me about these missing updates, but my initial check of the first few items on the list was like: where are the missing ones? ie of the following, most are already in the list! And a quick scan down the list says there's many more!

Quote

237493USA8 (already in list)
249973USA8 (already in list)
50COMUPD_DLL5-80PATCH (this is missing)
908519FX (this is named kb908519 on the list)
ACTIVEXSCRIPTCONTROL1-01-0-0-8825 (this is missing)
ADDREMOV (this is obsolete)
COPY2GB (its named UCOPY2GB on my list)
CRYPT9X (already in list called UCRYPT9X)

So, my question before i continue down the list is how did you come up with this list? Of the first 9, about half are obviously already there ... it just doesn't make sense! Please advise !!

(and for some light relief humour, lets remember another celebrated occasion when 'it doesn't make sense!' -- this is one of the best South Park sequences ever, it even has its own wiki page - http://en.wikipedia....ewbacca_defense
"Cochran: Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, Chef's attorney would certainly want you to believe that his client wrote "Stinky Britches" ten years ago. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Gerald Broflovski: Dam* it!
Chef: What?
Broflovski: He's using the Chewbacca Defense!
Cochran: Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, [approaches and softens] does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.")

Gotta love South Park ...

This post has been edited by soporific: 31 May 2007 - 11:43 PM

[Fredledingue]

Soporific,

I compared your Monster List on the first page of this thread with the list of files I have downloaded.
And 237493USA8 and 249973USA8 are definetly not there. (but q237493 is there)

I made the comparison automaticaly, through a script. There can be some mistakes, but I can tell you that 237493USA8 and 249973USA8 are not on the monster list on the first page.
===>Maybe you have another list?

The other thing is that some files are named differently. My files came from the "direct download" links posted by MDGx and usualy I don't rename them.
IMO it could be a good idea to add all the known names.

Here are a few name change my script dtected

COPY2GB UCOPY2GB
CRYPT9X UCRYPT9X
DXM9XIE5 DXM9X
IE6-0SP1-KB918439 KB918439
KB891711-V2 KB891711
KB917344-X86 KB917344
KB917734_WINDOWSMEDIA9 KB917734
KB918547-SLV KB918547
NUSB NUSB31
ROOTSUPD ROOTSUP

I also improved my script to avoid error (thought errors came only in the detection of changed name, I think)
I will redo a list comparison later.

[soporific]

Fredledingue, on Jun 1 2007, 09:25 PM, said:

I compared your Monster List on the first page of this thread with the list of files I have downloaded.
And 237493USA8 and 249973USA8 are definetly not there. (but q237493 is there)

Yes, they are. Let me explain. Rather than just use the filename for the 'short title' of the update, i've gone with using the Q number or the KB number (numbers before 400,000 are Q and ones over 800,000 are KB). SO you WILL find 237493usa8 if you search for 237493 (which brings up q237493) and hover your mouse over the download link. Same with 249973USA8.

Quote

The other thing is that some files are named differently. My files came from the "direct download" links posted by MDGx and usualy I don't rename them.
IMO it could be a good idea to add all the known names.

i agree and i will add as i come across them.

Edit: you could ease up in the script code with the filename. As long as the entire number is found in the filename, then the update exists, rather than restricting to the original name. We would then be in harmony.

This post has been edited by soporific: 01 June 2007 - 09:02 AM

[Fredledingue]

Ok, I see...

I will add codd to the script to look for the number if the name is not found.
That way we will have a tool to compare lists faster.

[Fredledingue]

Ok, I improved my script in the way we talked above and I (partialy) checked the result manualy.
Here is what came out as "missing" from your list ( obsoletes and renamed have been excluded fom this list)
I added the link when I had it.

As you can see, the list is much shorter.

50COMUPD_DLL5-80PATCH ?
ACTIVEXSCRIPTCONTROL1-01-0-0-8825 ?
ADDREMOV http://www.mdgx.com/files/ADDREMOV.EXE
DCOM98UP ?
DIRECTX_OCT2006_REDIST look here: http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#NFR
DISKMIND ?
DX9CPL http://www.mdgx.com/files/DX9CPL.EXE
EXPLOR98 http://www.dr-hoiby....IconIn256Color/
FLASH9-0-45-0_W98 look here: http://www.mdgx.com/toy.htm#SHFL
FLASHPLAYER7-0-63_WINAX ?
IE6UPD http://www.mdgx.com/spx/IE6UPD.EXE
IE813451 ?
IE834707 http://www.mdgx.com/files/IE834707.EXE
IE890573 http://www.mdgx.com/files/IE890573.EXE
IE922760 http://www.mdgx.com/files/IE922760.EXE
IE925568 ?
INSTALL_FLASH_PLAYER_ACTIVE_X_8-0-24 Look here: http://www.mdgx.com/toy.htm#SHFL
INSTMSIA ?
JAVARUNTIME-1_5_0_12-I586-P http://java.sun.com/.../index_jdk5.jsp
MDIE6CU http://www.mdgx.com/spx/MDIE6CU.EXE
MDPOSTCU http://www.mdgx.com/spx/MDPOSTCU.EXE
NUSB30E look here: http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#NUS
Q222930 ?
Q817914 http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q817914.EXE
Q909363 http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q909363.EXE
Q920213 http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q920213.EXE
Q927978 http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q927978.EXE
RUNHELP http://www.mdgx.com/files/RUNHELP.EXE
SETUPAPI http://www.mdgx.com/files/SETUPAPI.EXE
TOOLS9X ?
TTFPAK http://www.mdgx.com/files/TTFPAK.EXE

[soporific]

Fredledingue, on Jun 2 2007, 08:01 AM, said:

Ok, I improved my script in the way we talked above and I (partialy) checked the result manualy.
Here is what came out as "missing" from your list ( obsoletes and renamed have been excluded fom this list)
I added the link when I had it.

As you can see, the list is much shorter.

Ok here's the line i added to the first post:

Also, not every single update is on this list. Updates for Internet Explorer 5.5 are NOT included, neither are any unofficial upgrade packs.

So that clears a few more from your list. I will eventually get around to going thru the rest so please stay tuned ... I have already made quite a few changes.

EDIT: do i have to add EVERY single old "Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer" to the obsolete list? eg. IE834707 - OLD Unofficial MS IE 6.0 Patch --- actually this for IE 6 and not IE6 sp1 --- i'm in two minds about whether to add this to the obsolete list because it isn't obsolete for those who haven't upgraded to IE 6 sp1. Comments?

This post has been edited by soporific: 06 June 2007 - 05:25 AM

[sleffing]

 
EDIT: do i have to add EVERY single old 
"Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer" to the obsolete list? 
eg. IE834707 - OLD Unofficial MS IE 6.0 Patch --- actually this for IE 6 and not IE6 sp1 --- 
i'm in two minds about whether  to add this to the obsolete list because it isn't obsolete for
 those who haven't upgraded to IE 6 sp1. Comments?  

I have that question as well.
Most, if not all, lists I've come across simply state the
latest versions available.
Even when they list the latest IE5.5, and IE6 and IE6.1
cumulative patches.

I notice the lists that try to keep up with the flow of
all released AND current patches
seem to have been unable to do so.

If you wanted to go that way you might restructure
your list to group components together.

An IE6SP1 cumulative group may look something like this.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Cumulative Security Updates for Internet Explorer 
-----------------------------------------------------------
QNUMBER  SUPERBY REPLACES PATCHNUM
-----------------------------------------------------------
867282   890923			   MS05-014
890923   883939  867282   MS05-020
883939   896727  890923   MS05-025
896727   896688  883939   MS05-038
896688   905915  896727   MS05-052
905915   912812  896688   MS05-054
912812   916281  905915   MS06-013
916281   918899  912812   MS06-021
918899   922760  916281   MS06-042
922760   925454  918899   MS06-067
925454				922760   MS06-072
------------------------------------------------

[MDGx]

Please notice that ADDREMOV.EXE was replaced with [renamed to] TOOLS9X.EXE .
Actually when some1 tries to download ADDREMOV.EXE, they actually d/l TOOLS9X.EXE [.htaccess server redirect].

FYI:
About IE 6.0 [pre-SP1] patches:
I have removed them from my web site on purpose, to encourage people to use IE 6.0 SP1 instead.
This is because IE 6.0 pre-SP1 is full of bugs + security flaws, and is not updated anymore, for a long time now.
And besides, IE 6.0 pre-SP1 has no advantages over IE 6.0 SP1, it has actually fewer features and is less polished to my knowledge.
Therefore, I urge everybody still using IE 6.0 pre-SP1 to upgrade as soon as possible to IE 6.0 SP1:
http://www.mdgx.com/ietoy.htm#6S1
and then d/l + install all current IE 6.0 SP1 patches:
http://www.mdgx.com/ietoy.htm#BRO

HTH

[Max_04]

@ soporific:

Can you put "(multilanguage)" in each update that supports different languages?
I'm creating first basis from Auto-Patcher in italian (I've translated all program), but it's very hard to know what updates are only in english and what updates are also in different languages.

Another simple method is to separate official hotfixes from unofficial hotfixes.

This differentiation is very important....

About unofficial hotfixes, I ask you if you can compile certain italian hotfixes (originally in english) with iexpress, using your .sed files and italian files that I can send you.

I think that we must have a common contact via email/chat.

Let me know if you're interested.

This post has been edited by Max_04: 20 July 2007 - 08:07 AM

[soporific]

Max_04, on Jul 20 2007, 11:47 PM, said:

Let me know if you're interested.

i've sent you a PM ...

[dencorso]

Hi, soporific!

Two interesting freeware add-ons are:

Calendar 2000
http://www.gregorybr...m/Calendar.html

and a nice DirecteX Starfield Simulator Screensaver
http://www.hope.co.nz/projects/stars/
Note: despite what is said in the above homepage, I found out that if you set up a screensaver password, it will ask for it normally on wakeup and won't let you get back to the desktop, unless it gets the right password, so it seems to be fully functional to me.

Of course, I'm aware that their Win 3.1 couterparts do work under Win 9x/ME, but they require a licence for Win 3.1 (which I do have), while the above don't. They also have some more features, and the calendar has a beautiful interface, IMHO. Even MS at last has acknowledged that a simple calendar is useful, as I read they've brough it back from oblivion in Vista, so I believe these may be timely suggestions.

This post has been edited by dencorso: 05 August 2007 - 06:48 PM

[soporific]

thanks for all the tips!

I've made some improvements to the list. I was inspired to give some attention to all things Win98 when i heard of the demise of the AutoPatcher project. Hope you like. I stil haven't added all the links. Please bug me if i don't get around to it.

[the_guy]

For the time zone update you show KB931836. This should be changed to KB933360.

the_guy

[soporific]

the_guy, on Sep 1 2007, 12:45 AM, said:

For the time zone update you show KB931836. This should be changed to KB933360.

fixed. thanks for the free proof read

[soporific]

here's an unofficial installer for DirectX 9.0c August 2007, it was designed to be used with the UBCD project. You cannot use the standard redistributable file from MS to install DirectX 9.0c from scratch, you can only use it after installing any of the previous versions of DirectX 9.0c (ie December 2006 or before) ... this installer is in effect the regular DirectX 9.0c with the August 2007 files installed as an add-on and as such is 39 MB in size. I will also (hopefully) be releasing an update from December 2006 to August 2007 which will be much smaller in size, so wait for that if you already have December 2006 (and you can also just use the standard redistributable file from MS).

So just repeating, this is useful for people wanting to include it on a UBCD or something similar.

http://soporific.dsl...tX9-Aug2007.exe

it should work for all Windows 98se/Me systems.

This post has been edited by soporific: 08 September 2007 - 04:24 AM

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

What wmp files are obselete now that we have WMP90_98.EXE

[RetroOS]

Hey all,
I see you have the MSXML 4.0 SP2 MS07-042 update 936227 / 936181 in the list.
I have tested XML 4.0 SP2 (818081) and update builds 887606 / 832414, 925672 and 927978 with no problems.
However, when I installed 936227 / 936181 it broke XML 4.0 in Windows 98SE!
I tested this on two seperate installs of Windows 98SE - a basic install and an update max'd out install.
To back-date, I had to uninstall the update and then manually delete the three msxml4?.dll files and then install 927978!
Even though there is an Add/Remove entry for the update, it does not remove or rollback the dll files so installing an older XML 4 build does nothing...

soporific,
maybe you should have an incompatible section for updates that don't work in 98SE anymore?

I am having some issues with oleaut32.dll update 924053 / 921503 and msxml 3.0 sp9 update 936227 / 936021.
I've yet to confirm these since I was having issues with XML 4 so I back-dated those two while I resolved xml 4.
I'll let you know when I have properly tested these two updates.
You don't have them listed yet and they might just fall into an incompatible section...

Interestingly, the xml updates released this year are having problems where the late 2006 updates work okay.
I bit like MS dropping the bda.cab and directx.cab files after the DirectX December 2006 release...