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Posted 03 November 2006 - 07:19 PM

It now pops up at startup with an MS-DOS prompt window saying "Insufficient memory".

How can I fix this?


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Posted 04 November 2006 - 01:53 AM

Use the unofficial one located somewhere in this Forum.

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 02:42 AM

How much RAM have you got ?

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 08:14 AM

256 mb

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 08:56 AM

I thought it could be related to having more than 512MB and no vcache value set in system.ini.

Have you got a clue as to what you did before it begun to happen ? Installing some new software or something ?

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Posted 05 November 2006 - 05:56 PM

no I don't.

It might have something to do with AVG free

I installed it, then I restarted, and when it has started, the AVG welcome thing appeard. I accidently restarted my computer, and it did the kb891711 error

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 08:44 PM

Official KB891711 from M$ is flawed.
You may want to use unofficial U891711 instead:

* Windows 98/98 SE Cursor + Icon Handling Security Vulnerability Fixes (English):
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/ms05-002.mspx
Install only 1 of these fixes:
- Microsoft Windows 98/98 SE Q891711.DLL 4.10.2222 + KB891711.EXE 4.10.2223 Fix [150 KB]:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownlo...443b0208e0e.EXE
- U891711: Unofficial Windows 98/98 SE/ME Q891711.DLL 4.10.2223 + KB891711.EXE 4.10.2227 Fix [76 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/U891711.EXE
Read U891711.TXT FIRST:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/U891711.TXT
STRONGLY RECOMMENDED: U891711 provides the BEST Fix!

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 09:26 PM

View PostMDGx, on Nov 7 2006, 09:44 PM, said:

Official KB891711 from M$ is flawed.
You may want to use unofficial U891711 instead:


more accurately, original M$ KB891711 patch from March 2005 with v4.10.2222 of KB891711.exe caused BSOD errors on some Win98/ME machines. MS revised the KB891711 patches in April 2005 which had v4.10.2223 of KB891711.exe that fixed most of the problems.

but yeah better off using the unofficial U891711 patches (please download latest release if you didnt get one or have an earlier release)

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Posted 13 November 2006 - 05:18 PM

So I can uninstall the KB891711 update that came through Windows Update and then install U891711 instead?

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 02:04 PM

WELL?

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 02:18 PM

U891711.EXE uninstalls M$ official Q891711/KB891711 [MS05-002], no need to uninstall it yourself.

Please see U891711.TXT for complete details:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/U891711.TXT

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erpdude8, on Nov 7 2006, 09:26 PM, said:

but yeah better off using the unofficial U891711 patches (please download latest release if you didnt get one or have an earlier release)
Unofficial patch [U891711] is better than M$ official patch.
Please see U891711.TXT for complete details:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/U891711.TXT

HTH

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 11:24 AM

Is it possible that U891711.EXE, working "as a service" is freezing my dsl internet connection during one or two minutes, in a random but frequent manner?

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 02:04 PM

Ok I installed the U891711 Thing, but it didn't uninstall the KB891711 update. I then tried uninstalling the KB891711 update manually and reinstalling U891711, but it says in Windows Update that I need the KB891711 update. WHAT IS WRONG??

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 06:48 AM

Fredledingue, on Nov 15 2006, 11:24 AM, said:

Is it possible that U891711.EXE, working "as a service" is freezing my dsl internet connection during one or two minutes, in a random but frequent manner?
Probably not, but I don't have DSL connection to test this.
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Ambassador, on Nov 15 2006, 02:04 PM, said:

Ok I installed the U891711 Thing, but it didn't uninstall the KB891711 update. I then tried uninstalling the KB891711 update manually and reinstalling U891711, but it says in Windows Update that I need the KB891711 update. WHAT IS WRONG??
U891711 is not an official patch from M$, therefore is not listed as a Windows Update.
That's why WU [Windows Updates web site] doesn't "see" it on the list of installed patches.
Only official M$ patches should be on that list, of course. ;)

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 05:58 PM

"me" said:

"MDGx" said:

Is it possible that U891711.EXE, working "as a service" is freezing my dsl internet connection during one or two minutes, in a random but frequent manner?

Probably not, but I don't have DSL connection to test this.


This is a mystery for me.
I will need to tsest the "desactivation" of the patch for a week or so, because I can't reproduce the situation intentionaly. I can just see if that happens as ften or not or never.

This post has been edited by Fredledingue: 17 November 2006 - 06:00 PM


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Posted 19 November 2006 - 03:02 PM

One other thing, it says in the u891711 update that the installer will automatically uninstall KB891711. It didn't for me.

Secondly, it says you should be able to uninstall the u891711 update from the add/remove thing. Well, it wasn't there.

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 11:52 AM

Ambassador, on Nov 19 2006, 03:02 PM, said:

One other thing, it says in the U891711 update that the installer will automatically uninstall KB891711. It didn't for me.

Secondly, it says you should be able to uninstall the U891711 update from the add/remove thing. Well, it wasn't there.
This installer has been a project I've put on hold for a while, but now I fixed all (un)install issues.
Please try again [118 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/U891711.EXE
I tested it on my Win98 SE computer, with and without official M$ KB7891711 installed.
Works ok.
Uninstalls any older U891711 [if any] and M$ KB891711.
And it you want to uninstall U891711, just open Control Panel -> Add/Remove Programs.
Complete details:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/U891711.TXT
More info in the U891711 forum:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=58780

P.S.:
Please post all/any U891711 related issues in the dedicated U891711 forum from now on:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=58780
Thanks.

HTH

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Posted 22 November 2006 - 10:31 AM

View PostFredledingue, on Nov 15 2006, 12:24 PM, said:

Is it possible that U891711.EXE, working "as a service" is freezing my dsl internet connection during one or two minutes, in a random but frequent manner?


ABSOLUTELY NOT, Fredledingue! when I installed the latest release of the U891711 patch on my Win98/ME machines (which use AT&T Yahoo DSL), my DSL connections were UNaffected.

so something else is causing your DSL connections to go haywire OR it could be your DSL provider is having some problems with their network. so that means you'll have to use your DSL connection at a later time when it is working without any problems.

try using a utility such as NetStat Live to check your DSL connection:
http://www.analogx.c...network/nsl.htm

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 22 November 2006 - 10:33 AM


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Posted 25 November 2006 - 01:09 PM

Ok, I got another problem.

Not only does kb891711 do the "Insufficient Memory" error, but now the kb918547 does too!

What is going on??!!

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Posted 26 November 2006 - 08:26 PM

Added info: sometimes at startup, the updates repeatedly open over and over.

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