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#1 User is offline   grafx1 

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  Posted 11 November 2006 - 01:26 AM

i'm sharing ADSL with friends through a router and switch
we turn off router at night
the problem that when we power it up in the morning, then i try to connect to internet, it didn't respond, i keep on sending requests may be for 6 times, then it responds !! ( during that period, i can ping the router normally ).

as if it was sleeping

is there a settings to solve that ?
i'd raised the lease time from 1 day to 3 days, but it didn't help.

Thank you.

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Posted 11 November 2006 - 03:26 AM

What kind of router is it? Whats happening is the router is attempting to relearn links from when it was on. Just leave it on. If you want security, use access lists.

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Posted 11 November 2006 - 06:00 AM

Conexant router,... Thanks for the advice but we had tried to leave it on
but it didn't respond also in the next day when i tried to access the net but when we turn it off then on, it respond.

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Posted 11 November 2006 - 06:35 AM

in the morning, is it roughly the same time each morning you try to access the net? Is it possible there are access rules in that router that turn off web access during certain periods of time? I know my linksys one has that feature, though I'm not sure about yours.

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Posted 11 November 2006 - 08:22 AM

Thanks for your support, i'm trying to find what's wrong

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Posted 11 November 2006 - 08:53 AM

Very common with ADSL. Because ADSL connection usually require a login, after long periods of inactivity the connection gets dropped and then when you first try to access the internet it will have to re-establish the connection with your provider before you can access the internet. Hence the delay.

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Posted 11 November 2006 - 09:43 AM

really :o ? and what about splitter, can a bad splitter do that :unsure:
as the router was ok from a year ago and it wasn't dropping...

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Posted 11 November 2006 - 09:44 AM

View Postgrafx1, on Nov 11 2006, 10:43 AM, said:

really :o ? and what about splitter, can a bad splitter do that :unsure:
as the router was ok from a year ago and it wasn't dropping...

Thanks.

ADSL modems are very sensitive, yes, a bad splitter or wire could also adversly affect your modem. It's standard practice with ADSL modems to plug them into their own jack.

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Posted 11 November 2006 - 09:47 AM

sorry what's the mean of "It's standard practice with ADSL modems to plug them into their own jack."
thanks jcarle for the info...

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Posted 11 November 2006 - 09:51 AM

View Postgrafx1, on Nov 11 2006, 10:47 AM, said:

sorry what's the mean of "It's standard practice with ADSL modems to plug them into their own jack."

It means most of the time when you have an ADSL modem you try to plug them into the wall outlet by themselves using the shortest wire possible and no splitters. This reduces the chances of interferance.

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Posted 11 November 2006 - 12:20 PM

Thanks for all of you for help.

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 06:12 AM

I'd found that: the problem is when i shut my PC for a while may be 2 or 3 hours then power it again, i can't connect to the internet at the begining then may be after minutes, it connects !! (the router is always on).
had i to leave it on or is there a settings to solve that ??

Thanks.

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 11:11 AM

View Postgrafx1, on Nov 12 2006, 07:12 AM, said:

I'd found that: the problem is when i shut my PC for a while may be 2 or 3 hours then power it again, i can't connect to the internet at the begining then may be after minutes, it connects !! (the router is always on).
had i to leave it on or is there a settings to solve that ??

Thanks.

What is the brand and model of your router?

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 12:42 PM

Router model: Conexant CX82310 Single-Chip ADSL Router
http://www.conexant....ntry.jsp?id=114

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 05:45 PM

View Postgrafx1, on Nov 12 2006, 01:42 PM, said:

Router model: Conexant CX82310 Single-Chip ADSL Router
http://www.conexant....ntry.jsp?id=114

That's only the chip inside your router.

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 10:47 PM

actually, the router isn't in my appartment, and i can't remember the brand, but i know the chip from the web based configuration page.

Update: i'd found that to solve the problem for now: after making a new connection with the router, i'd to wait about 3 minutes until establishing a connection as you told me jcarle...

may be router is getting old.

also using hibernate may solve the problem of shutting PC during the day, so that when resuming, i can find the connection alive.

that what i'd found till now...

This post has been edited by grafx1: 13 November 2006 - 12:26 AM


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Posted 13 November 2006 - 01:07 AM

You haven't said that your friends are having these problems. If it is just you, then this could potentially be a DNS or DHCP problem.

Compare your network settings to your friends if their machines don't have these problems.

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Posted 13 November 2006 - 02:02 AM

View PostTAiN, on Nov 13 2006, 02:07 AM, said:

You haven't said that your friends are having these problems. If it is just you, then this could potentially be a DNS or DHCP problem.

Compare your network settings to your friends if their machines don't have these problems.


Good point, i'll try to talk to them as soon as possible... Thanks TAiN :)

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Posted 13 November 2006 - 06:30 AM

i'd talked to the one who has the router in his flat, but it seems that my PC has a problem, so How to fix DNS or DHCP problems ?

i'm using manual ip and had entered the DNS of our ISP.

Thanks.

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Posted 13 November 2006 - 09:45 AM

Use the router's IP as your gateway and your DNS.

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