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#21 User is offline   LLXX 

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 06:35 PM

View PostMDGx, on Nov 27 2006, 09:02 AM, said:

Petr, on Nov 25 2006, 02:25 PM, said:

So I have exported all registry entries after KB928388 applied and converted them to Windows 9x format and created both complete and update both reg and inf files, see the attachment:

Attachment attachment

Can Windows 9x use "Dynamic DST" information? Probably not.

Petr
I have created a Time Zone update [iexpress installer] for Windows 95/98/ME [all editions] based on Petr's REG + INF files:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU

* Unofficial Windows 95/98/ME 2007 U.S.A. Daylight Saving Time (DST) Time Zone Update:
http://support.micro....com/?id=928388
Direct download [66 KB, English]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q928388.EXE
How to Configure 2007 U.S.A. DST:
http://support.micro....com/?id=914387
More info:
http://www.microsoft...ne/dst2007.mspx
MSFN Forum:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=87399
This Update also deletes obsolete 2006 Australian DST registry changes (if any):
http://support.micro....com/?id=909915

I have also created a similar iexpress installer for NT4/2000/XP Pre-SP2 [experimental, please test]:
File [129 KB, English]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/KB928388.EXE

P.S.:
Same here, I don't think "Dynamic DST" applies to 9x OSes.

HTH
Do the files really have to be that huge? Anything over the size of the .reg file posted above just doesn't make any sense.


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Posted 05 December 2006 - 07:12 PM

View PostLLXX, on Dec 6 2006, 10:35 AM, said:

Do the files really have to be that huge? Anything over the size of the .reg file posted above just doesn't make any sense.

Yeah, I totally agree, this is going to completely use up all my unused monthly data allowance, AND totally saturate my bandwidth for my ADSL2 broadband connection (with theoretical speeds up to 3mb/s).

I mean, what were you thinking MDGx? The original reg file is about 14,000 bytes which is a whopping 1% of the size of a floppy disk, and your hotfix is 67,000 bytes, a massive increase of about 400% which now would take up over 4% of a floppy. Outrageous !!!

(just in case: :P )

(just in case: the hotfix has already been added to autopatcher, thanks heaps for your efforts to provide easily installable hotfixes for the non-computer heads of the world, you are a legend)

http://www.answers.c...y?gwp=13&s=huge

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 09:52 AM

View Postsoporific, on Dec 5 2006, 08:12 PM, said:

View PostLLXX, on Dec 6 2006, 10:35 AM, said:

Do the files really have to be that huge? Anything over the size of the .reg file posted above just doesn't make any sense.

Yeah, I totally agree, this is going to completely use up all my unused monthly data allowance, AND totally saturate my bandwidth for my ADSL2 broadband connection (with theoretical speeds up to 3mb/s).

I mean, what were you thinking MDGx? The original reg file is about 14,000 bytes which is a whopping 1% of the size of a floppy disk, and your hotfix is 67,000 bytes, a massive increase of about 400% which now would take up over 4% of a floppy. Outrageous !!!



oh quit whining, soporific! SHEESH! MDGx's unofficial 928388 patches are small anyway. why complain about a bunch of relatively small byte sizes? the difference between 14k bytes and 67k bytes are almost insignificant

and my DSL connection is only up to 384 Kbits/sec and no faster

View PostMax_04, on Dec 4 2006, 06:42 PM, said:

Excuse me erpdude8, this update is valid only for United States?


like Petr said, it's for ALL parts of the world - not just for the USA

note that MDGx also made an unofficial 928388 patch for WinNT4/Win2000/pre-XPSP2 systems as M$ didnt release any 2007 time zone fixes for these older Windows systems.

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 02:58 PM

View Posterpdude8, on Dec 7 2006, 01:52 AM, said:

oh quit whining, soporific! SHEESH! MDGx's unofficial 928388 patches are small anyway. why complain about a bunch of relatively small byte sizes? the difference between 14k bytes and 67k bytes are almost insignificant

please re-read my post, because there is supposed to be humour there, not criticism. I have an ADSL2 connection --- 3mb/s in theory, and about 2mb/s in practice. That's right, more than a floppy disk every second. Which is why I made the calculations above based on the size of a floppy.

SHEESH!!!

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 03:58 PM

Does anybody know if this fix: KB928939 Western Australian Daylight Savings Changes for Microsoft Windows for the Year 2006/2007 is already contained in 928388 or not?

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 04:22 PM

It is the same as KB929120, which states the following:

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The update for the West Australia time zone that is described in this article is not included in the 2007 time zone update for Microsoft Windows operating systems that will be released on December 12, 2006. The West Australia time zone change was passed into law after the 2007 time zone update for Microsoft Windows operating systems was created. We recommend that you install both updates to make sure that you have the most current time zone data on the computer.


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Posted 06 December 2006 - 04:32 PM

View PostMDGx, on Nov 27 2006, 03:02 PM, said:

Petr, on Nov 25 2006, 02:25 PM, said:

So I have exported all registry entries after KB928388 applied and converted them to Windows 9x format and created both complete and update both reg and inf files, see the attachment:

Attachment attachment

Can Windows 9x use "Dynamic DST" information? Probably not.

Petr
I have created a Time Zone update [iexpress installer] for Windows 95/98/ME [all editions] based on Petr's REG + INF files:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU

* Unofficial Windows 95/98/ME 2007 U.S.A. Daylight Saving Time (DST) Time Zone Update:
http://support.micro....com/?id=928388
Direct download [66 KB, English]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q928388.EXE
How to Configure 2007 U.S.A. DST:
http://support.micro....com/?id=914387
More info:
http://www.microsoft...ne/dst2007.mspx
MSFN Forum:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=87399
This Update also deletes obsolete 2006 Australian DST registry changes (if any):
http://support.micro....com/?id=909915

I have also created a similar iexpress installer for NT4/2000/XP Pre-SP2 [experimental, please test]:
File [129 KB, English]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/KB928388.EXE

P.S.:
Same here, I don't think "Dynamic DST" applies to 9x OSes.

HTH


@ Mdgx:

In Q928388.inf:

[TZ]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones",,0,"Pacific Standard Time"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Dateline",Display,0,"(GMT-12:00) International Date Line West"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Dateline",Dlt,0,"Dateline Daylight Time"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Dateline",Std,0,"Dateline Standard Time"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Dateline",MapID,0,"24,25"

There isn't Pacific Standard Time, but Dateline Standard Time, no?

Maybe it's an unnecessary string.

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 04:45 PM

View PostMax_04, on Dec 6 2006, 11:32 PM, said:

@ Mdgx:

In Q928388.inf:

[TZ]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones",,0,"Pacific Standard Time"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Dateline",Display,0,"(GMT-12:00) International Date Line West"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Dateline",Dlt,0,"Dateline Daylight Time"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Dateline",Std,0,"Dateline Standard Time"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Dateline",MapID,0,"24,25"

There isn't Pacific Standard Time, but Dateline Standard Time, no?

Maybe it's an unnecessary string.


Please see where it is placed - it is in HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones" key, not in HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Dateline".

It seems that HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones" contains default time zone for given language version of Windows 98, English version contains "Pacific Standard Time".

Petr

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 05:43 PM

View PostPetr, on Dec 6 2006, 11:45 PM, said:

View PostMax_04, on Dec 6 2006, 11:32 PM, said:

@ Mdgx:

In Q928388.inf:

[TZ]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones",,0,"Pacific Standard Time"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Dateline",Display,0,"(GMT-12:00) International Date Line West"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Dateline",Dlt,0,"Dateline Daylight Time"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Dateline",Std,0,"Dateline Standard Time"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Dateline",MapID,0,"24,25"

There isn't Pacific Standard Time, but Dateline Standard Time, no?

Maybe it's an unnecessary string.


Please see where it is placed - it is in HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones" key, not in HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Dateline".

It seems that HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones" contains default time zone for given language version of Windows 98, English version contains "Pacific Standard Time".

Petr


Ok, all right!

1) And these lines?
Can I leave them?

[AX]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\AUS Eastern Standard Time (Commonwealth Games 2006)"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Tasmania Standard Time (Commonwealth Games 2006)"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Cen. Australia Standard Time (CommonwealthGames 2006)"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\W. Australia"


2) Can I delete all Dynamic DST values?

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 06:22 PM

soporific, on Dec 4 2006, 08:19 PM, said:

But can i suggest a better name for the update --- it does more than update the USA Time Zone DST settings ... it seems to do the entire world!! People not living in the US might think its useless to install, but its not....

For example, the Greenwich time description is updated from just 'Casablanca, Monrovia' to 'Casablanca, Monrovia, Reykjavik' --- in fact this is what autopatcher looks for to see if the update is installed. I've called the update the "Unofficial 2007 Updates to Time Zone Daylight Saving Time Settings" --- I think having the word USA in the name would be a mistake. But this is a little thing really. Still, HTH.

While we're talking about time zones ...

For the Unattended Boot Cd for Windows 98se v4 that I'm working on, i've added the ability to choose your time zone before installing the OS. It's all done in DOS and i'm not really keen to include every single time zone there possibly is. The option screen is busy enough as it is...

I'd be interested to know if the list I have so far would be sufficient for most (if not all) the people that might want to use it.
1. I wanted to rename the 1st TZ update the way you suggested, but now that M$ released the new WA TZ update, each update needs to differentiate from the other by name, so I left in place the original names.
Please take a look here:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU

2. Time Zones selection from DOS, nice work. :thumbup

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Petr, on Dec 6 2006, 03:58 PM, said:

Does anybody know if this fix: KB928939 Western Australian Daylight Savings Changes for Microsoft Windows for the Year 2006/2007 is already contained in 928388 or not?
I have noticed this update this AM [released by M$ December 5 2006].

I have created 2 fixes for this: 1 for 9x + 1 for NTx OSes.
Please take a look [the 2 unofficial Q928939 updates]:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU

BTW:
All 4 unofficial updates install all TZ updates from similar INF files [1 for 9x + 1 for NTx OSes].
They also delete the obsolete 2006 Australian Comonwealth Games TZ update.
All details at link above:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU

HTH

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Max_04, on Dec 6 2006, 05:43 PM, said:

1) And these lines?
Can I leave them?
[AX]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\AUS Eastern Standard Time (Commonwealth Games 2006)"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Tasmania Standard Time (Commonwealth Games 2006)"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Cen. Australia Standard Time (CommonwealthGames 2006)"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\W. Australia"

2) Can I delete all Dynamic DST values?
1. Those lines delete the obsolete 2006 Australian Commonwealth Games DST update.
The DST date + time was changed due to those Games only at that time, after which the "normal" DST date + time will be restored in April 2007, therefore these registry entries are not needed anymore after April 2006.

2. The Dynamic DST values are only for NTx OSes [NT4/2000/XP/2003/Vista].
They don't do anything in 9x OSes [95/98/ME].

HTH

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 06:33 PM

If all present registry entries are ok (eventually check), please publish this update in my language with iexpress.

See in attachment.

Attached File(s)


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Posted 06 December 2006 - 06:38 PM

Max_04, on Dec 6 2006, 06:33 PM, said:

If all present registry entries are ok (eventually check), please publish this update in my language with iexpress.
I'd like to, but your INF file is in binary, and is 123 KB in size.
Please save it again as plain text [ASCII] and attach it here when ready.
Thanks.

BTW:
An INF file should be under 64 KB, otherwise Windows may have problems reading it. :(

HTH

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 07:18 PM

View PostMDGx, on Dec 7 2006, 01:38 AM, said:

Max_04, on Dec 6 2006, 06:33 PM, said:

If all present registry entries are ok (eventually check), please publish this update in my language with iexpress.
I'd like to, but your INF file is in binary, and is 123 KB in size.
Please save it again as plain text [ASCII] and attach it here when ready.
Thanks.

BTW:
An INF file should be under 64 KB, otherwise Windows may have problems reading it. :(

HTH


Attachment updated!

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 08:36 PM

Max_04:

Actually I have rebooted into WinXP and saved your INF as ANSI in Notepad [plain text].

I have also "trimmed" it a little, and also translated the installer dialogs.
Download IT928388.EXE [66 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/IT928388.EXE
Complete details here:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU

HTH

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 02:31 PM

View PostMDGx, on Dec 7 2006, 03:36 AM, said:

Max_04:

Actually I have rebooted into WinXP and saved your INF as ANSI in Notepad [plain text].

I have also "trimmed" it a little, and also translated the installer dialogs.
Download IT928388.EXE [66 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/IT928388.EXE
Complete details here:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU

HTH



I've corrected translated installer dialogs with restorator, see attachment and update it:

Attached File(s)



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Posted 07 December 2006 - 03:30 PM

Max_04, on Dec 7 2006, 02:31 PM, said:

I've corrected translated installer dialogs with restorator, see attachment and update it:
I actually remembered Petr uploaded advpack.dll, iexpress.exe + wextract.exe in Italian, so I rebuilt the executable using those files:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=86564

Here it is:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/IT928388.EXE
Hope you like it better this way.

HTH

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 03:51 PM

View PostMDGx, on Dec 7 2006, 10:30 PM, said:

Max_04, on Dec 7 2006, 02:31 PM, said:

I've corrected translated installer dialogs with restorator, see attachment and update it:
I actually remembered Petr uploaded advpack.dll, iexpress.exe + wextract.exe in Italian, so I rebuilt the executable using those files:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=86564

Here it is:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/IT928388.EXE
Hope you like it better this way.

HTH


Perfect.

This post has been edited by Max_04: 07 December 2006 - 04:29 PM


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Posted 12 January 2007 - 09:30 AM

Is there any way I can automate this patch to use on our network through active directory?
I would like to silently install it to my systems without having to go to each desk.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 03:07 PM

sdgrey, on Jan 12 2007, 08:30 AM, said:

Is there any way I can automate this patch to use on our network through active directory?
I would like to silently install it to my systems without having to go to each desk.
If you mean the Win95/98/ME fixes:
Q929120.EXE [English] + IT929120.EXE [Italian],
the answer is yes.
These are the unattended switches for all patches/(hot)fixes created using iexpress 6.xx [example]:

Qxxxxxx.EXE /Q:C /R:N

More info @ MS TechNet [look under "Using Command-Line Switches "]:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechn...7/z03ie6rk.mspx
and @ MSKB article Q197147:
http://support.micro....com/?id=197147

HTH

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Posted 08 February 2007 - 02:11 PM

New time zone update: KB931836, which replaces both KB928388 and KB929120, and includes some new changes.

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