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Since there is a great number of components in the Vista left and I can't add them all at once since I pay attention to the dependencies and try to make them more user friendly, you can suggest few components (2-3) which you would like to be removed in the next update, also the tweaks you would like to see in the Tweaks page.

Note: things which are done and conversations around it will be deleted to keep it more readable in the future.
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Hrm, just noticed something about the x64 edition of vista, running rc2...I've noticed that both 32bit and 64bit versions of the program files programs exist...i mean, take for example the windows sidebar, vista x64 uses the 64bit sidebar app, however, the files are also there for the 32bit version...

Could the 32 bit varients be removed using vlite? or would it be possible for each option that has both versions to remove either the 32bit or the 64 bit? or is that going a bit crazy?!

I'm also curious, if you remove the sidebar in x64 using vlite, does it also remove the 32bit version?

At a quick look things i've noticed have 32bit and 64bit versions are

Windows Sidebar
Windows Photo Gallery
Windows Media Player
Windows Mail
Windows Calendar


ok, its only around an additional 22mb of space for the 32 bit versions, but still


Things of interest i noticed, windows only installs the x64 games, no 32bit ones, there appear to be 3 32bit speech engines and only one for x64, the x64 is a x64 version of one of the 32bit ones.

I've only had a quick look at the folders to see what files are there, i've noticed some folders are in both folders, and noticed that some of the 32bit ones only have some files, i'm assuming for compatablity, but regarding the sidebar, I can't think of a reason why you would need both? just taking up extra space!

The reason i was wondering, was because at first i was curious to if you could merge the 2 program files foldger together, as i'm not a big fan of having extra folders for everything! I know its not essential, but i liked it with xp, there was just, documents and settings, program files, windows and recyled, everything else would be organised into one of those folders well and system volume information, I suppose i may be a bit of a fussy but for some reason i like the root folder to look neat! ... i think i need to get out more!

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enable the super buildin admin please and maybe i can rename it too :thumbup that will be a great feature for me :D

can u disable all the stuff from the "add program" i mean there are win features and will be great after installation that there will be no "x" in the checkbox. i have do deinstall this after a installation.

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can u please uncheck the index search mode for each hdd too? other tweaks like no restore point will be nice too!

Edited by Hanschke, 18 December 2006 - 02:55 PM.


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-- enable classic mode on first boot
-- "Games" Start menu folder is still listed even though I removed all games
-- "Default Programs" and "Windows Update" on Classic Start menu - remove them from on top of Programs
-- remove "Help and Support" from Start menu
-- remove "Documents"from Start menu
-- remove "Windows Live Messenger Download" link on Start/Programs

Thanks for vLite, I'm loving it and looking forward to its next release.

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Are you thinking about the ability to insert Mass Storage Drivers into Vlite, ie, Silicon Image 3114 Raid 5 Controller Driver. I now have to do it with a floppy or USB stick.

After 5 years of development, Vista Enterprise, for some strange reason does not allow an Upgrade Install if you have a Mass Storage Raid system and have to install the drivers this way. This company is just amazing in their incompetence.

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I know this might be a bit difficult and it is not a big issue, but it would be nice to somehow see to what Vista version a presest is related to (as it is already stored in the preset) when you want to load/overwrite a preset.

Edited by Jeronimo, 31 January 2007 - 12:21 PM.


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Thks nuhi for spending your time making our os less bloated with ms crap. Cheers!
I've compile a list of all the wanted features from other users in the coming vlite version for easy viewing.

Service
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Certificate Propagation - No Dependencies
IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules - No Dependencies
Messenger Sharing Folders USN Journal Reader service - No Dependencies
Problem Reports and Solutions Control Panel Support - No Dependencies
Remote Access Auto Connection Manager - No Dependencies
Smart Card Removal Policy - No Dependencies
Windows Connect Now - Config Registrar - No Dependencies

System Components
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Accessories (like paint, calculator, wordpad)
Disk Quota and/or Previous Versions Tab
Ease of Access Center
Games Explorer
Internet Explorer
Malicious Software Removal Tool
MSN Connection Center (cclitesetupui.exe)
Windows Contacts
Windows marketplace
Windows Meeting Space
Windows Media Player

Integration
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Integrating other language packs

System Tweaks
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Allow unsigned drivers
Disable creation of hibernate-file
Disable DEP
Disable Minimum Ram & Harddisk Requirement
Disable Windows Defender Reporting
Import of a Registry file to apply at first boot
Removeval of WLM download Link

Edited by finderz, 16 March 2007 - 04:06 AM.


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Suggestions:

- Auto Eject at end of Disc burn
- When adding multiple folders (drivers) it comes up with list of drivers found, could shift/ctrl select be added to make it easier than selecting one by one.
- Minimize to system tray!!!

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Edited by zedox, 20 March 2007 - 09:23 AM.


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I have a few small suggestions, based on my installation of Vista with nearly every option removed:

- Add the following registry tweak: When users have selected IME for removal, the Command Prompt still loads conime.exe (wich is not removed), wich searches for the ime files for a full 10 to 20 seconds before giving up. Thus, it slows down the opening of a Command Prompt instance considerably. Using the following registry tweak disables the loading of / searching for conime.exe, it's IME files and the IME input in the Command Prompt: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Console\dword:LoadConIme:0x00000000(0). Of course, the tweak should be applied to the default user profile before a user profile is created.

- Make sure that, when the removal of IME is selected, all IME files are actually removed. There are a bunch of files still in system32\IME\shared, and as far as I know it is unnecassery when IME has been removed. Also, the earlier mentioned conime.exe is still present in system32.

- Some or all of the TableTextService files are still present in Program Files\Windows NT\TableTextService. I can't remember if there was an option to remove these, but if there's not, it's an easy fix to remove these files from the Vista installation. There are just 3 entries in the registry; one for the dll under CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID, and 2 for the text files under ehm.. Microsoft\Windows\IME\Locale (or something like it).

- An interesting option would be a little wizard-like tool, where the user would choose his/her enviroment (at home, corporate etc) and it would then disable some of the absolutely unneccasery services associated. For example, IPSec services aren't used when a user isn't in a corporate enviroment and/or doesn't use VPN. Or another example: In a corporate enviroment, the network mapping services (and non-pnp drivers) aren't really needed. A lot of services can be disabled this way. This idea isn't based on the concept of in-depth tweaking (for wich someone should have in-depth knowledge about vista's services), but more like a general assesement. I think users of vLite not only use it to make the disk space vista takes smaller, but especially the memory footprint.

- I don't remember if there was an option to remove the 'customer improvement program' stuff in vista, but it would be nice to have, even though the files and settings (and taskscheduler items) aren't that many... It's the idea that counts.

- There are certain registry classes and other items that are kept when certain components are checked for removal in vLite. For example, removing the games doesn't remove the GameExplorer links, folders and registry classes. I don't know if this behaviour is intended, but it seems a bit sloppy.

- Something I would like to see in vLite is the removal of the Component Cache items that have been deleted from Vista with vLite. It's not that hard, just check for the files each component has and check if vlite removes them. If so, then also remove the component from the component cache. However, if something like this were attempted, then there might be definate hurdles ahead... Such as wrecking Windows Update. I haven't tried it out, and I don't know if Windows Update verifies all components... but if it does, then things suddenly get much less easy. But on the other hand, not removing the components isn't ideal either, since Windows Update happily places files, directories and registry entries on your system dedicated to components you've selected for removal in vLite, whenever a new update is available. Atleast, that's what I suspect Windows Update of doing. I think I'll go deeper into this.

- The last option I would like to see -it's a biggie-, is the removal of Side-By-Side Assemblies aka. WinSxS. This is definately a though one, and not one I'd expect to see in vLite... but it would be nice. For me, WinSxS is not needed. I'd rather have the associated DLL versions redirected to the program's own folder when installing, so it can load them from there.. Or not at all. The idea behind WinSxS is noble: the removal of bugs and/or errors that crop up when outdated or newer versions of certain dll's are used in wich functions invariable are different then the version the programmer used. However, personally, I don't care. I'd like the newest version of my dll's and if a program hasn't updated for a while (and thus needs an old version of a DLL), I'll just search for another program with the same functionality. So to me, all that disk space that all those versions of all those dll's take is way too much. So yeah, it would be nice to have, but it wouldn't be an expected feature of vLite.

Other then these points, I love the program. I tried for the last month to remove stuff from a Vista installation myself to see what exactly has changed since XP, and I know how time-consuming something like that can be, especially with 'debugging' certain component removals. Some files are tied up in really strange ways, it's one big plate of italian spaghetti under the hood.

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Ok Now I have finnally managed to get Vlite to work I went through it but was a bit sad to find the following features not in it:

> Can't integrate software to install automaticly, like in Nlite did
> Run Once to run dos commands once xp is installed
> Have not got a feature to make all your user accounts in the unattended part
> Network Settings unattended
> The OEM folder to put your own stuff in to install
> And tweaking Windows Services,


I know its alot and prob can't get all done but I think my main quible would be the Unattended feature think it needs alot more too it and then its a fight between software intregration and run once I think they both draw second at importance.

Other then that great app another great job.

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First of all, vLite is a Great product, i don't know how you managed to get rid of all these compenents with such a simple GUI.

Second, there are few features that can be tweaked for achieving additional performance gain.

1. The Location of the Program Files\Users Folder (Maybe on another drive)
2. Location of the Page\Hibernation File
3. Performance Effects setting
4. Other default location of files (Such as Restore Points)

Or.

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Hi Nuhi, great prog m8 !
One suggestion, i just have read FireGeier's tutorial. Can you add a application intrations box. It will be awsome, as the driver one already exists. Thnx again !

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Has anyone suggested:

Restore previous folder windows at logon
Snap-To mouse tweak
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removing the ms bluetooth stack. it sucks in vista too and i want to use my widcomm!

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Delete box for advanced users would be nice - just like in nLite, so we could remove additional files in vista. Please!!? :hello:

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i'd like to suggest no GUI boot option

option to change the default views, i really, really hate the details view and cant figure out how to change it to tiles permanently.

some way to install creative sound drivers

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Move all the short-cuts in the start menu to dir named More

Ms like to flood with her products


%SystemRoot%\system32\csrss.exe ObjectDirectory=\Windows SharedSection=1024,3072,512 Windows=On SubSystemType=Windows ServerDll=basesrv,1 ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3 ServerDll=winsrv:ConServerDllInitialization,2 ProfileControl=Off MaxRequestThreads=16

MaxRequestThreads is tcp ports ? maybe there it possible to add more tcp ports open

TcpMaxDupAcks could be the tcp ports per sec

Edited by aviv00, 02 July 2007 - 04:45 AM.


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Public Folders hiding in explorer shell

here's what i hide..

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so it looks like this..

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to do it you need to remove the following things

%userprofile%\Links\Public.lnk

and

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\Desktop\NameSpace\{4336a54d-038b-4685-ab02-99bb52d3fb8b}]
@="Public folder"


do not delete the whole public folder from 'C:\Users', may cause installation problems and missing desktop shortcuts

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That Public folder is indeed annoying, however I think you need to registry settings for removal:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 



; Remove Public folder from Explorer

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\Desktop\NameSpace\{4336a54d-038b-4685-ab02-99bb52d3fb8b}]

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\Desktop\NameSpace\{4336a54d-038b-4685-ab02-99bb52d3fb8b}]

Edited by Jeronimo, 02 July 2007 - 01:58 PM.


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-Tweak to disable Vista's TCP/IP Auto Tuning

netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disable


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Dude, FOR SURE, I think you should add this...

* Ability to change the default directorys (IE., Windows, Documents and Settings, Boot, ProgramData, Users, Program Files)

* Add a way to add our own custom .REG file at the end. That way, we can add our own little tweaks to Vista.

* Network card setup, workgroup, etc. Like in nLite.

* Default IE page. Make it Google.com ;-)

Thanks for the GREAT software. You're really a life saver! We all appreciate your work very much.

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Then to start Aero manually - u can add this by making a script to start DWM service restart

The reg setting I've been applying since the early builds of vLite should help - I remove WinSAT and glass is always enabled for me without restarting DWM or other such intervention.

;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Enable Glass Aero Theme
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[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\DWM]
"Composition"=dword:00000001
"CompositionPolicy"=dword:00000002

Edit: I just reinstalled without the above tweak and can confirm it's responsible for activating glass aero - perhaps nuhi could add this to the existing glass tweak in vLite?

Edited by jamieo, 22 July 2007 - 12:35 PM.


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it would be nice if i could automatically have "ownership" of all files. i HATE having to go through all the steps to take ownership and control the files on my pc.

but thank you for all that you have done :) i love Vlite

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only one registry key is needed to skip the initial WMP11 wizard, this makes WMP11 open instantly the first time with default settings :)
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Preferences]
"AcceptedPrivacyStatement"=dword:00000001

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Great work nuhi, but there are some things that just i need:
* Option to select the Security Center Error Reporting modes, i don't need those errors, i usually hide it.
* Select resolution and the monitor hertz'es (if possible)
* Disable the unsigned driver confirmation
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And now the less-needed options:
* Selecting Google for MSIE7 default Search engine
* Choose your own MSIE7 Home page

And other customizable windows vista settings ;), i made just my first vlite disk and it works brilliant, just a lil bit configuration and updates.




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