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#1 User is offline   WaveRunningNaked 

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Posted 03 December 2006 - 02:04 PM

I'm trying to create a bootable DVD with WinPE and a custom image that I made with ImageX. The problem is, the WIM file is 7 GB. Spacewise, I can fit the entire thing on DL DVD, but every program I use to master the ISO complains about the the 4GB file size limit. How do I get around this so I can burn the DVD?


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Posted 03 December 2006 - 02:21 PM

Be sure to create your .iso file as UDF, not ISO9660.

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Posted 03 December 2006 - 02:44 PM

View PostWaveRunningNaked, on Dec 3 2006, 09:04 PM, said:

I'm trying to create a bootable DVD with WinPE and a custom image that I made with ImageX. The problem is, the WIM file is 7 GB. Spacewise, I can fit the entire thing on DL DVD, but every program I use to master the ISO complains about the the 4GB file size limit. How do I get around this so I can burn the DVD?


NTFS Partition is the only solution...Fat 32 is limited to 4GB.

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Posted 03 December 2006 - 02:47 PM

But DVDs also have a limit themselve (2GB on most).

@WaveRunningNaked, maybe that there's something in imagex to split your wim file.

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Posted 03 December 2006 - 02:49 PM

ok figured it out.

Behold... the SPLIT command

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imagex /CHECK /SPLIT d:\vista\iso\sources\vista20061202.wim d:\vista\iso\sources\vista20061202.sim 3500


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Posted 03 December 2006 - 03:08 PM

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@WaveRunningNaked, maybe that there's something in imagex to split your wim file.


Great minds... ;)

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Posted 04 December 2006 - 10:27 AM

darn it! I was just going to suggest the Split command when I saw this topic :)

Or you could wait until you can aford Blu-Ray :)

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 09:25 PM

why would udf help?

if you split it, do you need multiple discs?

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 07:40 AM

UDF supports large files as opposed to joliet.
Try a program called "IMG burn".

This post has been edited by COOLCOMPUTERGUY: 29 October 2008 - 07:42 AM


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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:38 AM

would that let my iso surpass 4GB?

keep in mind, it's my iso I want big, my install.wim is only 3.4GB. If I can expand my iso, i'll enlarge that with more... pizazz

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 12:51 PM

I split the file install.wim in install.swm and install2.swm
In the first dvd I have the complete structure of the dvd and sources I have copied the file install.swm in the second dvd I created the directory sources and here I have copied the file install2.swm

Unfortunately it does not work the first dvd:

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I copied the first dvd file Autounattended.xml, and 'he the problem?

Thanks !!

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 07:02 PM

This problem seems to exist with USB keys as well - I have a 4GB key and a 64GB key, and I cannot get the installation of Vista OR Windows 7 to work from the 64GB key, unless it has only a 4GB partition (and nothing else). the 4GB key obviously works fine, and my previous 8GB key had the same problems. I believe there's some sort of issue with images larger than 4.7GB, so I'll file the bug. We'll see if this is expected or not.

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:36 AM

View Postcluberti, on May 12 2009, 09:02 PM, said:

This problem seems to exist with USB keys as well - I have a 4GB key and a 64GB key, and I cannot get the installation of Vista OR Windows 7 to work from the 64GB key, unless it has only a 4GB partition (and nothing else). the 4GB key obviously works fine, and my previous 8GB key had the same problems. I believe there's some sort of issue with images larger than 4.7GB, so I'll file the bug. We'll see if this is expected or not.


That's odd, I install Vista from my 16GB USB all the time, no partitions on it or anything :/

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 08:04 AM

View Postlello, on May 10 2009, 08:51 PM, said:

I split the file install.wim in install.swm and install2.swm
In the first dvd I have the complete structure of the dvd and sources I have copied the file install.swm in the second dvd I created the directory sources and here I have copied the file install2.swm

Unfortunately it does not work the first dvd:

Posted Image

I copied the first dvd file Autounattended.xml, and 'he the problem?

Thanks !!



however I have already solved the problem ... but I prefer to keep a professional secret. Since I did not ask for help how do you

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 10:10 AM

Have you all been reading this thread: "Bootable XP DVD above 4.7GB possible?"? Doesn't it help?

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:49 PM

Again, not tested so far.

Vista / Windows 7 textmode boot directories and files are:
boot sector
\bootmgr
\boot\
\efi\
\sources\boot.wim

This should be within first 4GB of media.

Does anybody use 'oscdimg -yo' ?
http://technet.micro...y/dd799243.aspx

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For images larger than 4.5 GB, you must create a boot order file (Bootorder.txt) to ensure boot files are located at the beginning of the image. For example,
oscdimg -m -n -yoC:\temp\bootorder.txt -bC:\winpe_x86\etfsboot.com

Where bootorder.txt contains the following list of files.
boot\bcd
boot\boot.sdi
boot\bootfix.bin
boot\bootsect.exe
boot\etfsboot.com
boot\memtest.efi
boot\memtest.exe
boot\en-us\bootsect.exe.mui
boot\fonts\chs_boot.ttf
boot\fonts\cht_boot.ttf
boot\fonts\jpn_boot.ttf
boot\fonts\kor_boot.ttf
boot\fonts\wgl4_boot.ttf
sources\boot.wim

bootmgr is not listed. The boot sector use BIOS to seek this file.
Hence a friendly BIOS is expected, some BIOS may fail.
It maybe nice to add bootmgr too.


By the way:
There is no file size limit at ISO9660:1988.
A file can exist of several sections, each below 4GB.
The OS concat single sections to one file.
Old NT4 does list a PB file at ISO9660:1988.

UDF supports medium sized files.

WAIK oscdimg.exe does support UDF files greater 4GB, but ISO9660 files below 4GB.

This post has been edited by cdob: 14 May 2009 - 01:58 PM


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Posted 14 May 2009 - 06:14 PM

In fact, I was able to get my 64GB key working! I had to use the HP USB key format utility to format it NTFS first, then I used diskpart to set the partition active, copied the files (I have a WIM file with all the Vista, 2008, and Win7 versions I have to install as one install.wim on a Win7 install ISO I'm using on the key now), and then after running bootsect it works. To verify, I used the diskpart method entirely to create partitions and format, and it *didn't work* for whatever reason. Perhaps there's something specific with this Patriot USB key that required the hackery, or perhaps not, but it's working now. I have an ~10GB WIM on the key and it installs everything properly, so it can be done.

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 09:13 AM

FYI ;), about USB sticks formatting tools:
Fuwi's Bootable USB-Drive Utility
http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=21702

RMPREPUSB.EXE:
http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=7739

Make_USB.EXE:
http://www.msfn.org/...howtopic=121446
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...21446&st=20

FBINST:
http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=7932

jaclaz

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 03:55 PM

View Postlello, on 10 May 2009 - 12:51 PM, said:

I split the file install.wim in install.swm and install2.swm
In the first dvd I have the complete structure of the dvd and sources I have copied the file install.swm in the second dvd I created the directory sources and here I have copied the file install2.swm

Unfortunately it does not work the first dvd:

Posted Image

I copied the first dvd file Autounattended.xml, and 'he the problem?

Thanks !!


use

Imagex /split c:\dvd7\sources\install.wim c:\dvd7\sources\install.swm 1900

DVD 1

install.swm
install2.swm

DVD 2

install3.swm
install4.swm

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