[soporific]

maximus-decim, on Dec 24 2007, 12:23 AM, said:

Maximus Decim Cumulative Update ver.2.50
for Windows 98SE
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
* Includes more than 125 updates received from service WindowsUpdate and from Microsoft web site.
* Native (without installation of additional drivers for each type) support USB flash drives (NUSB 3.3).
* Universal Stack USB 2.0 (without installation of additional drivers for each chipsets) with uninstall.
* Support for hard drives larger than 137GB.
* The detailed description of the order of installation Windows 98SE, necessary updates and components.

Hi MD. I've decided to use your cumulative updater in AP, hope you don't mind. As i still wanted to keep all existing functionality, i had to go thru your installer very carefully to add an entry to the module bat file for every update that you included. I got most of them but i also uncovered a host of mistakes and other things. I hope writing this post wasn't a waste of time, i have never actually conversed with you but its not for the lack of me trying.

The list of problems with this release:

* Your list of updates included in the _README!.TXT file inside the installer is all wrong, please update it ASAP.

* the following is a list of updates you list as being installed by your cumulative updater but in fact are not installed at all. They seem to be all obsolete hotfixes that you should remove from your list. I don't want anyone bugging me to update my Win98se hotfixes list for unnecessary stuff. The list is:
229670, 239697, 241134, 242937, 246387, 266039, 273468, 305575, 329128, 827656, 896559

* The list of updates that aren't installed fully, ie some extra files and reg entries are missing that are installed by the stand-alone installer:
942763

* There are some updates you list that are red herrings for the USER. If they try to find out about the update, they get nowhere, as there is no other information, and the number does not correspond to a microsoft KB article. We need more info please. The list is:
247583, 266039, 268064

* Other obsolete updates you list are:
928388, 929120

* Errors in list: "VBRUN5SP2" is actually "VBRUN5SP3"

and that's it! I have some other questions but that's enough to start with. Please reply MD ...

[thydreamwalker]

i enjoy all thee updates ...except yhis new version of MDCU 2.50 is frazzling on rp7 and need to use autopatcher98 immediately after installing this....my system is an old grouchy intel 775 , 4.75 gig with tons of bandaids and prayers keepin' it afloat .thanks for life saving win98se upgrades and updaters....especially auto-patcher as it helps to heal wounds of trying other non-essential systems (which use too much space)which were too strong for my older pentium II_tweaked out machine ;just hoping new auto patcher or rp8 may come soon before i need to reinstall again...thank you all,thydreamwalker

[soporific]

thydreamwalker, on Jan 11 2008, 05:59 PM, said:

i enjoy all thee updates ...except yhis new version of MDCU 2.50 is frazzling on rp7 and need to use autopatcher98 immediately after installing this....my system is an old grouchy intel 775 , 4.75 gig with tons of bandaids and prayers keepin' it afloat .thanks for life saving win98se upgrades and updaters....especially auto-patcher as it helps to heal wounds of trying other non-essential systems (which use too much space)which were too strong for my older pentium II_tweaked out machine ;just hoping new auto patcher or rp8 may come soon before i need to reinstall again...thank you all,thydreamwalker

thank you very much for your post, its good to hear you can use AP to fix mistakes by other programs.

OK, i have an announcement to make ...

!! DO NOT USE THIS UPDATER UNTIL ALL PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN QUARANTINED !!

Quarantine Warning Details:

At exactly 10:03pm AES, i discovered a critical bug in the Cumlative Updater 2.50 - If you install this, and then install Revolutions Pack 7.11, you will not be able to use Auto-Patcher (it won't work) -- this is because the Command.Com file which controls the DOS side of the OS can't use the environment switch /E:nnnn as you normally can. It is not known at this time what the exact cause of the problem is, but until we know more, you are well advised to steer clear of even downloading this critical bug infected updater. Don't even mention its name!

This will result in critical system failure for all programs that rely on this feature to work. The list of known applications that are affected and are still in use in the world is the following:

* Auto-Patcher for Windows 98 SE

That is all.

This post has been edited by soporific: 11 January 2008 - 05:16 AM

[maximus-decim]

Quote

The list of problems with this release:
* Your list of updates included in the _README!.TXT file inside the installer is all wrong, please update it ASAP.

Fixed list:
192425, 236926, 237493, 239887, 240075, 240664, 240896, 241052,
242004, 242193, 242928, 242975, 245682, 246817, 249146, 249635,
250514, 250876, 253697, 253711, 254660, 257630, 257821, 258191,
258680, 259253, 262232, 264650, 266772, 267304, 268064, 269601,
269874, 271701, 272621, 273017, 273727, 274175, 274548,
275873, 276602, 277628, 278033, 278368, 280448, 281533, 283032,
284837, 288430, 288550, 290831, 293197, 295629, 305037, 306453,
306889, 307004, 308349, 309081, 310695, 311430, 311561, 313829,
315575, 318307, 319571, 321467, 323172, 323708, 329115, 329128,
811630, 823559, 827656, 896358, 896559,
DCOM98, TELNET, UNICOWS, 3D Control Libraries, GDIPLUS,
NUSB 3.3, BHDD 3.0,
245729 (replaced with ADclient),
246387 (replaced with unofficial update),
249973 (replaced with unofficial update),
263044 (replaced with unofficial update),
273468 (replaced with unofficial update),
274370 (replaced with unofficial 304708),
289635 (replaced with unofficial update),
291362 (replaced with unofficial update),
293793 (replaced with ADclient),
314147 (replaced with unofficial 926247),
320798 (replaced with unofficial update),
891711 (replaced with unofficial update),
918547 (replaced with unofficial update),
Unofficial 249824,
Unofficial 932590,
Unofficial 835732,
Unofficial 272991,
Unofficial 271277,
Unofficial KRNL386.EXE,
Unofficial CONTROL.EXE,
Unofficial SHELL32.DLL,
Unofficial IFSMGR.VXD,
Unofficial OLE,
Unofficial HTML help,
VB6SP6 (replaced with unofficial VB6),
VB5SP3, VCredist,
Adaptec ASPI v.4.60(1021), part of ADclient,
Explorer with 256-color tray icons

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* the following is a list of updates you list as being installed by your cumulative updater but in fact are not installed at all. They seem to be all obsolete hotfixes that you should remove from your list. I don't want anyone bugging me to update my Win98se hotfixes list for unnecessary stuff. The list is:
229670, 239697, 241134, 242937, 246387, 266039, 273468, 305575, 329128, 827656, 896559

329128, 827656, 896559 - used, others not used

Quote

* There are some updates you list that are red herrings for the USER. If they try to find out about the update, they get nowhere, as there is no other information, and the number does not correspond to a microsoft KB article. We need more info please. The list is:
247583, 266039, 268064

247583 - error, fixed
266039 - old update vcomm.vxd, replaced
268064 - 1394bus.sys (http://ftp.isu.edu.t...nsrc/qfelog.htm)
(http://uk.computers....teddProduct=284)

Quote

* Other obsolete updates you list are:
928388, 929120

928388, 929120 - old timezone update - error, fixed

Quote

* Errors in list: "VBRUN5SP2" is actually "VBRUN5SP3"

fixed

[soporific]

maximus-decim, on Jan 12 2008, 01:28 AM, said:

<snip>

Yay. Thanks for the major update. Unfortunately i can't use it until we work out which thing in your updater is causing the problem with RP and the command.com environment switch - is there a way you can test for this?

the following code works on every test machine i have made:

%COMSPEC% /E:6120 /K "%LOC8%\code\AutoPach.bat" "%LOC8%" %debug%

and it doesn't work on a machine with the Cumulative Updater 2.50 installed first, and then with Revolutions Pack 7.11.

but this code DOES work:

"%LOC8%\code\AutoPach.bat" "%LOC8%" %debug%

which says to me that command.com isn't working as expected. my code simply needs to be able to set environment space dynamically, i can't get around this.

This problem does not occur on any machine i've built where i've also installed Revolutions Pack (RP) so the problem isn't RP. It's only when your cumulative updater is installed first that the problem i outline above happens. Interestingly, it doesn't occur if the Updater is installed after RP. I hope this gives you some help in tracking down the problem. I've already asked Tihiy via PM if he can help with this so this won't be new to him, hopefully he's already worked it out, he's a smart fella me old sparring partner!

[soporific]

out-of-date

This post has been edited by soporific: 20 January 2008 - 01:37 AM

[thydreamwalker]

Hello,Thanks to all.....fixed most problems with RP7&MDCU2.5(COVERED WITH OLDER MDCU2.40exe) still shakey yet repairs came after re-added MDCU 2.40exe,then LOADING ALL OF SESP1.5 - SESP 2.1d(german) versions,then auto-patcher98 (sept&oct full).....added rp7.10,and updated rp7.11,and rp7.115(or thee last updater out for rp7)....now , auto-patcher now works ;yet some issues with MDCU&RP7 SEEMS TO CONFLICT IN THE DOS AREAS OF SYSTEM...WHEN,older windows explorer is in DOS(LOCAL DISK AREA).I CHANGED WINDOWS EXPLORER TO 5.50.4134.100(ELIMINATING WINDOWS EXPLORER(version4.72.3812)from my system)as i found this had issues with auto-patcher and other programs running efficiently...too. me old grouchy pentiumII is still alive and kickin'(as it needs kicked once in a while-mildly)my systems specs,as follows:Windows 98 SE (build 4.10.2222) VIA Technologies, Inc.
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
233 megahertz Intel Pentium w/MMX
32 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: Shuttle Inc. VIA APOLLO MVP3 (HOT-591P)
Bus Clock: 66 megahertz
BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 4.51 PG 10/27/98
Drives Memory Modules c,d
5.36 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
3.16 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

LITE-ON DVD C LH52C1P [CD-ROM drive]
LITEON CD-ROM LTN301
Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")
Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")

Generic IDE hard disk drive (245 MB) -- drive 1
Maxtor 85120A8 [Hard drive] (5.12 GB) -- drive 0, s/n C809G4BA, rev AA8Z2D27, SMART Status: Healthy 64 Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot '0' has 32 MB
Slot '1' has 32 MB
Slot '2' is Empty
Slot '3' is Empty
Local Drive Volumes

c: (FAT32 on drive 0) 5.11 GB 3.15 GB free
d: (FAT on drive 1) 245 MB 12 MB free

Network Drives
None detected
Printers
HP DeskJet 690C Series v11.0 on LPT1:
HP OfficeJet Series 700 Fax on LPT1:
HP OfficeJet Series 700 Printer on LPT1:

Controllers Display
Standard Floppy Disk Controller
Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller S3 Trio64V2-DX/GX (775/785) [Display adapter]
Optiquest V655-3 [Monitor] (13.8"vis, July 1997)
Bus Adapters Multimedia
VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller ES1868 Control Interface (WDM)
ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive (WDM)
Gameport Joystick (no joystick connected)
Communications Other Devices

Microsoft Virtual Private Networking Adapter
Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet Adapter(NC100 v2)


Networking Dns Servers:

Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
Standard Serial Mouse
USB Root Hub thanks...thydreamwalker

This post has been edited by thydreamwalker: 14 January 2008 - 06:06 PM

[soporific]

Hi all,

I have narrowed down the problem to a relatively new update (still don't know what it is) but it's not 'just' in MDCU so we can rule out anything to do with the way MD's installer actually works, its one of the updates inside it. My latest AP release that i am testing has now suddenly got this 'bug' so now i know where to look. As soon as i find it, i'll let everyone know.

[galahs]

So has the download in the first post to 2.50 been updated to include the fixes?

[soporific]

Hi all,

I have more info on the problem i reported a few posts back ... there's another factor that i've only just discovered: you also need to install the Environment Space fix for Auto-Patcher to stop working. I *still* haven't found what is breaking the ability to set a SHELL command in CONFIG.SYS, which is then causing Auto-Patcher to fail. But, the problem can be avoided by the USER deleting the SHELL command from CONFIG.SYS and so its now OK to use MD's Cumulative Updater. It's pretty thorough so i'm happy that i can now recommend that people install this.

[duffy98]

Hi ... would also like to know the answer to Post #29 (01-17-1008) : "So has the download in the first post to 2.50 been updated to include the fixes?" .... I had downloaded an earlier version of 2.50 before all this discussion of outdates and updates started. thanks, duffy98

[duffy98]

Hi ... I have used this update ( Maximus Decim Cumulative Update ver.2.50 (New!)) three times in the past 2 weeks and have noticed that once I run it on my Win 98SE machine the USA - Eastern Time Zone and other times have dissappeared from my machine. I helped update a friend's computer and my computer twice before I realized that it was possibility related to this newer update. I only have the Alaska time zone available and mostly the far East locations. The 3rd time it happened I ran your MDGx Daylight Saving Time update and my Eastern and all other time zones were back. I am posting this so this can be checked out and confirmed by others and if it has happened to others, the fix or repair seems to be the MDGx DST update. I have done a fresh install of Win 98SE and the Eastern USA time zone was there and then when I run the Maximus Decim Cumulative Update ver.2.50 (New!) the Eastern and other USA time zones are gone. I noticed this Sunday when my computer didn't change the time as it should of. Still a great update to have but I need to know if others have had this problem. thanks ...

[maximus-decim]

Maximus Decim Cumulative Update ver.3.00 for Windows 98SE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
* Includes more than 100 updates received from service WindowsUpdate and from Microsoft web site.
* Native (without installation of additional drivers for each type) support USB flash drives (NUSB 3.3).
* Native support WIA and PTP (WIA 1.1).
* Universal Stack USB 2.0 (without installation of additional drivers for each chipsets) with uninstall.
* Support for hard drives larger than 137GB.
* The detailed description of the order of installation Windows 98SE, necessary updates and components.

* Includes:
mdcu300e.exe - Actually file of a update
wininst300e.txt - description of the order of installation
pchio98.exe - see wininst300e.txt
q313829fix.exe - see wininst300e.txt
bhdd30e.zip - Support for hard drives larger than 137GB
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
english - http://rapidshare.co...CU300E.ZIP.html
russian - http://rapidshare.co...CU300R.ZIP.html
---------------------------------------------------------------
*Size: ~16mB

What's new:
add:
*WIA 1.1
*Unofficial MSVBVM60.DLL (6.0.9802)
*Unofficial OLE Update
*Unofficial msimg32.dll (5.00.2218)
*245272
*274113
*942763 fix
*preserve for mdcu.cab

[maximus-decim]

Maximus Decim Cumulative Update ver.3.05 for Windows 98SE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
* Includes more than 100 updates received from service WindowsUpdate and from Microsoft web site.
* Native (without installation of additional drivers for each type) support USB flash drives (NUSB 3.3).
* Native support WIA and PTP (WIA 1.1).
* Universal Stack USB 2.0 (without installation of additional drivers for each chipsets) with uninstall.
* Support for hard drives larger than 137GB (BHDD 3.1).
* Zip-folders (Optional components)
* Spider Solitaire (Optional components)
* The detailed description of the order of installation Windows 98SE, necessary updates and components.

* Includes:
mdcu305e.exe - Actually file of a update
wininst305e.txt - description of the order of installation
pchio98.exe - see wininst300e.txt
q313829fix.exe - see wininst300e.txt
bhdd31e.zip - Support for hard drives larger than 137GB
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
english - http://rapidshare.co...CU305E.ZIP.html
russian - http://rapidshare.co...CU305R.ZIP.html
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Size: ~16mB

What's new:
add:
*Unofficial 951072
*Unofficial MSVBVM60.DLL (6.0.9802)
*Unofficial Crypt Update
*ZipFolders and 329048 (Optional components)
*Spider (Win Me) (Optional components)
*Unofficial extrac32.exe (WinXPSP2), cabinet.dll (WinXPSP2), regsvr32.exe (Win2000SP4)
*sens.dll(IE6sp1)
*scandisk.exe (WinMe)

This post has been edited by maximus-decim: 28 August 2008 - 11:29 PM

[duffy98]

Maximus Decim / others...


I downloaded and installed the latest version 3.05 and never saw anything about the two Optional components that are now part of this download. .... the Zip-folders and Spider Solitaire. There was nothing that gave me the option to install or pass on these two items. Just curious if anyone else had noticed this when they installed the latest version. I have installed this update on two Win 98SE laptop computers and it installed OK but those two options never appeared either time for me to make a decision to install or not install. I already have Spider but was interested more in checking out the Zip-folders program.

thanks,
duffy98

[thydreamwalker]

Thanks..MDCU3.0.5.workin'"GREAT"!!!!!

[MDGx]

Added mirror here:

MDCU:
http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#MDC

* Unofficial Windows 98 SE Cumulative Update (MDCU) 3.05 installs 130+ Updates, USB Drivers etc:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=89232
MDCU [15 MB, English]:
http://www.mdgx.com/spx/MDCU.ZIP

[mcv93us]

Post removed!

This post has been edited by mcv93us: 13 December 2008 - 04:13 PM

[SeeAScot]

I am planning on installing V3.05 in a clean install. it appears that it should be installed after 98SE2ME, as it contains the NUSB upgrade which seems to be recommended to be installed last.

Is the installer smart enough to know which items to replace. I am installing 98SE on a Thinkpad A22m, ca. early 2001, and so it appears I need ESDI_506 4102226 and not 4102225. can it be told NOT to install ESDI_506 4102225 so I can install ESDI_506 4102226 afterwards - or told to install ESDI_506 4102226 instead?

Are there any other notebook or Thinkpad (IBM notebook) related files which should be installed before or instead of files in this package?

Are there any other Unofficial Upgrades which will improve the ability of 98SE (98SE2ME) to work with a greater variety of USB devices or other newer hardware.

[cyberformer]

I've just installed this on a fresh, brand new reinstall of 98se, and so far everything is working really crisp, fast and lovely---a GREAT service pack!
Where though do I find WMI----?
I've used a few links I've found here and there, but cannot find a download link that works anyware!
Also, I have installed WMP 7.1---and used the updates for that, found on Erpman's sight.

I cannot repeat how great this is working!