[MDGx]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on Jan 6 2009, 10:29 PM, said:

Do WMPNS.DLL 9.0.0.4503 fix the MP817885?
also this file is located in the WMP folder & system folder
which one should i delete?

To my knowledge all 817885 fixes [official and unofficial] install older WMPNS.DLL 9.0.0.3250 (or even older, depending on WMP release).

Do you know which fix installs WMPNS.DLL 9.0.0.4503 ?
Please post link here.

Thanks.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

MDGx, on Jan 7 2009, 08:20 AM, said:

Do you know which fix installs WMPNS.DLL 9.0.0.4503 ?
Please post link here.

Do i use the new 1 or the old 1
also do i use the one in the wmp folder or the system i don't need both

MP817885:
http://www.mdgx.com/wmp.htm#WMP10
Fixed SED to install on all NTx OSes.
Installs WMPNS.DLL 9.0.0.3250 [from XP SP2] newer than the 1 from official fix [9.0.0.3002].
This fix installs on all Win32 OSes:
* Unofficial Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE/ME Media Player (WMP) 6/7/9/10/11 Plug-in With Non-Microsoft Web Browsers OCX Control Java Error WMPNS.DLL 9.0.0.3250 + WMPNS.JAR Fix:
http://support.micro....com/?id=817855
Direct download [216 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/MP817885.EXE
Requires WMP 6.4 or newer already installed:
http://www.mdgx.com/wmp.htm#WMP

This post has been edited by PROBLEMCHYLD: 08 January 2009 - 05:41 PM

[MDGx]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on Jan 7 2009, 12:23 PM, said:

MDGx, on Jan 7 2009, 08:20 AM, said:

Do you know which fix installs WMPNS.DLL 9.0.0.4503 ?
Please post link here.

Do i use the new 1 or the old 1
also do i use the one in the wmp folder or the system i don't need both

MP817885:
http://www.mdgx.com/wmp.htm#WMP10
Fixed SED to install on all NTx OSes.
Installs WMPNS.DLL 9.0.0.3250 [from XP SP2] newer than the 1 from official fix [9.0.0.3002].
This fix installs on all Win32 OSes:
* Unofficial Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE/ME Media Player (WMP) 6/7/9/10/11 Plug-in With Non-Microsoft Web Browsers OCX Control Java Error WMPNS.DLL 9.0.0.3250 + WMPNS.JAR Fix:
http://support.micro....com/?id=817855
Direct download [216 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/MP817885.EXE
Requires WMP 6.4 or newer already installed:
http://www.mdgx.com/wmp.htm#WMP

Ok, I got it... better later than never ... WMPNS.DLL 9.0.0.4503 comes from XP SP3.
But I have no idea what bugs have been fixed in this release, because I can't find documentation on this subject.

Why there are 2 copies [of the same file] installed in 2 different dirs:
%windir%\system
and
C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player
that's because some MS update I installed way back [?] did that, so I presumed they must have had a reason.

HTH

[IFkO]

I have a question about uninstalling DRM: it works if I use WMVCORE.DLL version 9.00.00.2980 or 9.00.00.3001 (from Windows Media Update 816044). With version 9.00.00.3355 it does not work.
What version of WMVCORE.DLL is recommended for using WMP without DRM?

[dencorso]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on Dec 24 2008, 12:09 AM, said:

dencorso, on Jul 18 2007, 04:23 PM, said:

On the other hand, I've been using the 6.0.2900.2180 builds of BROWSEWM.DLL SHDOCLC.DLL and SHFOLDER.DLL for about a fortnight now, with no apparent problems happening so far. However, if I ever find any issues with any of them I'll sure post about them.

Are they still going strong?

I'm still using BROWSEWM.DLL 6.0.2900.2180
I've used the other two up to December 2008 with no issues.
Then I've downgraded them in the process of trying to catch an elusive bug that turned out to be related to SHDOCVW.DLL 6.0.2800.1923 (now long superceeded) and never went back.
At the moment I'm using SHDOCLC.DLL 6.0.2800.1443 and SHFOLDER.DLL 6.0.2800.1106.
But I have no evidence that any of the three files ever did cause any issue.
You might perhaps test them in your machine for sometime. AFAIK, it's quite safe.
The newer Win XP SP3 versions of these three files I didn't test, though, so I don't know whether they work or not.

[MDGx]

IFkO, on Mar 29 2009, 09:00 AM, said:

I have a question about uninstalling DRM: it works if I use WMVCORE.DLL version 9.00.00.2980 or 9.00.00.3001 (from Windows Media Update 816044). With version 9.00.00.3355 it does not work.
What version of WMVCORE.DLL is recommended for using WMP without DRM?

Thanks for the bug report.

I don't have Win98/98SE/ME installed on my PC presently, so I can't test, but I plan on doing this in the near future.
I'll post here if I have any results.

Anyone tested this?

[whatever420]

MDGx, on Apr 4 2009, 12:18 PM, said:

IFkO, on Mar 29 2009, 09:00 AM, said:

I have a question about uninstalling DRM: ...With WMVCORE.DLL version 9.00.00.3355 it does not work.

Thanks for the bug report.
Anyone tested this?

Yeppers...

After uninstalling DRM (all it's files and registry entries), you need to place DRMCLIEN.DLL back into your WINDOWS\SYSTEM folder...

DRMCLIEN.DLL does not need to be registered... it just needs to be there... as WMVCORE.DLL has a "dependency" on DRMCLIEN.DLL, and will not function correctly without it...

This post has been edited by whatever420: 04 April 2009 - 10:36 PM

[MDGx]

whatever420, on Apr 4 2009, 01:52 PM, said:

Yeppers...

After uninstalling DRM (all it's files and registry entries), you need to place DRMCLIEN.DLL back into your WINDOWS\SYSTEM folder...

DRMCLIEN.DLL does not need to be registered... it just needs to be there... as WMVCORE.DLL has a "dependency" on DRMCLIEN.DLL, and will not function correctly without it...

Where did you get WMVCORE.DLL 9.0.0.4503 + DRMCLIEN.DLL 9.0.0.4503 from?
Can you please post here the links to MS hotfixes or PM me with the files [so I can add them to 98MP10]?
Thanks a lot for your time.

Best wishes.

[whatever420]

MDGx, on Apr 5 2009, 05:28 PM, said:

Where did you get WMVCORE.DLL 9.0.0.4503 + DRMCLIEN.DLL 9.0.0.4503 from?

Heh

... from the MP9URP9X update before the following one:

New MP9URP9X February 2009 release:

Unofficial Windows Media Player 9.0 (WMP9) Update Rollup Packs (URP) for Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE/ME install ALL previously released WMP9 Hotfixes, Patches + Updates:

WMP9URP February 2009 for Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE/ME [9.07 MB, English]:
http://www.mdgx.com/spx/MP9URP9X.EXE

The Feb. update has a newer ones... 9.00.00.4504

I just haven't installed it yet...

[IFkO]

whatever420, on Apr 4 2009, 09:52 PM, said:

After uninstalling DRM (all it's files and registry entries), you need to place DRMCLIEN.DLL back into your WINDOWS\SYSTEM folder...

But older versions of wmvcore.dll work without drmclien.dll (in this versions drmclien.dll is delay-load dependency module) !!!

[whatever420]

IFkO, on Apr 11 2009, 01:06 PM, said:

But older versions of wmvcore.dll work without drmclien.dll (in this versions drmclien.dll is delay-load dependency module) !!!

Then you should stick with the latest version of WMVCORE.DLL that works for you (without a dependency on DRMCLIEN.DLL)...

But, as I stated above, it's OK to use the newest version... you are still removing DRM (and all it's files / registry entries)...
DRM will not function even if DRMCLIEN.DLL is in your SYSTEM folder...
DRMCLIEN.DLL has been unregistered... and all other DRM files and registry entries are gone...

[IFkO]

whatever420, on Apr 12 2009, 02:22 AM, said:

it's OK to use the newest version...

Why?

whatever420, on Apr 12 2009, 02:22 AM, said:

DRM will not function even if DRMCLIEN.DLL is in your SYSTEM folder...

I want to not include any DRM files in codec pack.

[whatever420]

IFkO, on Apr 12 2009, 09:56 AM, said:

whatever420, on Apr 12 2009, 02:22 AM, said:

it's OK to use the newest version...

Why?

As I stated above...
You are still removing DRM (and almost all it's files / registry entries)...
DRM will not function even if DRMCLIEN.DLL is in your SYSTEM folder...
DRMCLIEN.DLL has been unregistered... and all other DRM files and registry entries are gone...

IFkO, on Apr 12 2009, 09:56 AM, said:

whatever420, on Apr 12 2009, 02:22 AM, said:

DRM will not function even if DRMCLIEN.DLL is in your SYSTEM folder...

I want to not include any DRM files in codec pack.

Then you should stick with the last version of WMVCORE.DLL that works for you (without a dependency on DRMCLIEN.DLL)...

[IFkO]

whatever420, on Apr 12 2009, 10:03 PM, said:

As I stated above...
...

Too big letters....
My question was: Why your preferred version is newest? What is better in latest version?

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

I need all necessary codecs and files for my media player 6.4. I will remove Wmp 9/10 all together.
All i want is the windows wmp 9/10 codecs nothing more nothing less. Thank you guys

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

The inf file to delete drm does not work.

[MDGx]

98MP10 · UPDATED · 12-10-2009

_____________________________________

PROBLEMCHYLD, on Sep 17 2009, 12:47 PM, said:

The inf file to delete drm does not work.

DEL_DRM.INF does not delete/move/rename any files anymore. Only unregisters the DRM files [found in %windir%\SYSTEM] from the registry.
Deleting the DRM files is not necessary if they are unregistered [using regsvr32.exe].

HTH

[RetroOS]

Thanks for the update!

I have the latest 98MP10 installed, so when I run the latest MP9URP9X installer, it of course says that my version of Windows Media Player is not supported.
Just out of curiosity, I compared the two installers.

Here is a list of files that come with the latest MP9URP9X, and are newer than what I already have, and do not come with 98MP10.

There are two exceptions:
- an older laprxy.dll file that I found in \Program Files\Windows Media Player even though 98MP10 installs it into %windir%\SYSTEM - I removed it.
- wmpdxm.dll from MP9URP9X is newer than 98MP10!

Also, wmpns.dll is in both %windir%\SYSTEM and \Program Files\Windows Media Player?


%windir%\SYSTEM

cewmdm.dll
drmclien.dll
drmstor.dll
drmv2clt.dll
dxmasf.dll
l3codeca.acm
logagent.exe (see note below)
mp43dmod.dll
mp4sdmod.dll
mpg4dmod.dll
msdxm.ocx
msnetobj.dll
mspmsnsv.dll
npwmsdrm.dll (much older than MP9URP9X PF\WMP - I removed it)
qasf.dll
strmdll.dll
wmnetmgr.dll
wmp.dll
wmpdxm.dll (from MP9URP9X is newer than 98MP10)
wmvcore.dll


\Program Files\Windows Media Player

logagent.exe (much older than MP9URP9X WIN\SYS - I removed it)
migrate.exe
npdrmv2.dll
npdrmv2.zip
npds.zip
npdsplay.dll
npwmsdrm.dll (see note above)

The question is, should some, or all of the additional files in MP9URP9X be included in 98MP10?
It would appear that at least some of those files are common to both versions of Windows Media Player...

On a side note, and not related to either of the above packages, I also found unicows.dll in \Program Files\Windows Media Player, and many other \Program Files folders that were much older than my master copy in %windir%\SYSTEM.
For continuity, I removed all copies in \Program Files folders.
I could see (and have probably had) problems with KernelEx if old copies of unicows.dll were being loaded by certain apps.

There is a note for 98MP10: "No need for XP N SP3 Q943604 files, same as XP SP3"
For uniformity between the packages, should the same 9.0.0.4504 (MP9URP9X) files be used instead of 9.0.0.4503?

These are the files:

%windir%\INF

unregmp2.exe

%windir%\SYSTEM

blackbox.dll
msscp.dll
wmp.ocx
wmpasf.dll
wmpcore.dll
wmploc.dll
wmpns.dll
wmsdmoe.dll

\Program Files\Windows Media Player

mpvis.dll
wmplayer.exe
wmpns.dll


Another option could be to have MP9URP9X run an alternate install procedure if 98MP10 is installed.
In this case, any common files between the packages could be written to the *.MP9 backup files.
This way, if 98MP10 is removed, then it will roll back to the latest WMP9.

Just an idea.

Anyway, I decided to replace older files with newer files as above, unregister and re-register, and update media player registration.
This has actually fixed some issues I had with some types of video files only playing some seconds before stopping.

EDIT:

I've also found that browselc.dll in 98MP10 is older than (and overwrites) my newer Q331485 version.

98MP10: (browsel9.dll): 6.0.2800.1106
Q331485: 6.0.2800.1146

This post has been edited by RetroOS: 18 December 2009 - 02:56 PM

[MDGx]

RetroOS, on Dec 18 2009, 01:59 AM, said:

I have the latest 98MP10 installed, so when I run the latest MP9URP9X installer, it of course says that my version of Windows Media Player is not supported.
Just out of curiosity, I compared the two installers.........

Wow! You sure did spend quite some time working on this. Thanks a lot for your feedback.

I'll add all newer files you mention to 98MP10 ["synchronize" with MP9URP9X], soon.

FYI:
- laprxy.dll : I found out WMP works better if this file is in %windir%\SYSTEM , that's why 98MP10 installs it there. Should be no problems, because the scripts [98MP10.INF] take care of all registry settings, to make sure all laprxy.dll references point to %windir%\SYSTEM . Therefore if there is another copy in C:\PF\WMP , it won't matter, WMP will use the one in %windir%\SYSTEM .
- wmpns.dll : is installed by default [MS official WMP installer] in C:\PF\WMP , and it looks like it works better if it is there.
If there is any other wmpns.dll copy anywhere else, must be deleted.

Edit:

PS:
Could you pls email me newer browselc.dll from Q331485, at your convenience, eventually the MS installer, if you have it?
Many thanks.
I've got the hotfix in e-mail from MS.
Thanks for your trouble.


Cheers,
MDGx

This post has been edited by MDGx: 22 December 2009 - 12:04 AM

[MDGx]

98MP10 · UPDATED · 12-21-2009

Please see the top of this topic for most recent 98MP10 update.


Enjoy.