[S3pHiroTh]

Only 2 questions... why do you integrate net framework 2.0 in the 3.0 net package? I know that the 3.0 net framework is 2.0 net plus some other applications... I think is better (for smaller installer) if you write in the install requirement that "if you want to install 3.0, you MUST install 2.0 net package too". Isn't it better?

Another question is: the net framework 3.0 doesn't install windows cardspace or something like it (maybe I don't remember well)? If yes, I haven't any icon of Windows Cardspace in Control Panel.

This post has been edited by S3pHiroTh: 19 January 2007 - 02:36 PM

[Tomcat76]

S3pHiroTh, on Jan 19 2007, 09:14 PM, said:

Only 2 questions... why do you integrate net framework 2.0 in the 3.0 net package? I know that the 3.0 net framework is 2.0 net plus some other applications... I think is better (for smaller installer) if you write in the install requirement that "if you want to install 3.0, you MUST install 2.0 net package too". Isn't it better?

If you want to exclude .NET 2.0 from the .NET 3.0 package, simply set PROCESS_DNF3_DNF2 to NO in the answer file. I won't make this the default behavior because .NET 2.0 is part of the .NET 3.0 package you download from Microsoft.

S3pHiroTh, on Jan 19 2007, 09:14 PM, said:

Another question is: the net framework 3.0 doesn't install windows cardspace or something like it (maybe I don't remember well)? If yes, I haven't any icon of Windows Cardspace in Control Panel.

Well... Don't really know what to say to that.
I don't see it in the .NET 3.0 package and can't find any info on how to deploy it either (provided it's hidden somewhere in .NET 3.0)...

[glentium]

thanks for the new version, tomcat!

btw, in HFSLIP, does including your dotnet30 silent installer product of SNM at SVCPACK makes including KB927977 (msxml6) at HF unnecessary?

This post has been edited by glentium: 19 January 2007 - 10:27 PM

[Tomcat76]

@daddydave
Please try the latest version. You can change the compression ratio with it. Try COMPRESSION_RATIO=MED and if that doesn't help go with COMPRESSION_RATIO=LOW.

@S3pHiroTh
Windows Cardspace is installed when using the installer on an existing Windows system. I'll do a test later to see if it works from SVCPACK too.

@glentium
The problem with the msxml6 package in .NET 3.0 is that it's older than the KB927977 hotfix *and* will overwrite the newer file versions that you slipstreamed. You basically have two options:
1) slipstream the binaries from KB927977 into Windows and create a silent .NET installer that doesn't include msxml6 (PROCESS_DNF3_MSXML6=NO)
2) do not slipstream KB927977 into Windows but place the msxml6.msi file from it in the SNM working folder
The end result is the same.

[daddydave]

COMPRESSION_RATIO=LOW did the trick for DNF20. I tried MED
DNF11 creation has been zippy ever since increasing the page file size as you suggested

So I'll use DNF11 from blank COMPRESSION_RATIO= and DNF20 from COMPRESSION_RATIO=LOW

Thanks a lot!

This post has been edited by daddydave: 20 January 2007 - 09:02 PM

[Tomcat76]

Super-Magician, on Jan 16 2007, 10:52 PM, said:

OK, thanks for trying the RunHiddenConsole thing. Never mind...

The latest version uses hidcon.exe. Is that OK too?

[Sonic]

The output file will install in one pass all frameworks ? or it's more batch method ?
Thanks.

[S3pHiroTh]

If you put only one version of a net framework, the output is only an exe file that install that version, if you put, for examples, net 1.1 binaries and net 2.0 binaries, the output of this script will consists of 2 exe installer, one for 1.1 net framework and the other for the 2.0 net framework.

[Sonic]

S3pHiroTh, on Jan 21 2007, 11:30 PM, said:

If you put only one version of a net framework, the output is only an exe file that install that version, if you put, for examples, net 1.1 binaries and net 2.0 binaries, the output of this script will consists of 2 exe installer, one for 1.1 net framework and the other for the 2.0 net framework.

Thank you !

[cyberyeye]

This script is amazing !

Wonderful job Tomcat76

[Yzöwl]

cyberyeye, on Jan 21 2007, 11:25 PM, said:

This script is amazing !

Wonderful job Tomcat76

The results and /or idea of the script may be, and the Tomcat76's effort and methodology is as usual to be commended. There is however nothing amazing about the script.

[S3pHiroTh]

Sonic, on Jan 22 2007, 12:18 AM, said:

S3pHiroTh, on Jan 21 2007, 11:30 PM, said:

If you put only one version of a net framework, the output is only an exe file that install that version, if you put, for examples, net 1.1 binaries and net 2.0 binaries, the output of this script will consists of 2 exe installer, one for 1.1 net framework and the other for the 2.0 net framework.

Thank you !

I forgot to tell you that in the .ini file has an option that can merge into one executable for 1.1 and 2.0 net framework, you can read that option in the first post of this topic

This post has been edited by S3pHiroTh: 22 January 2007 - 04:45 AM

[Super-Magician]

Wow, this script has changed a lot since the first version! Thanks. Great job as always, Tomcat!

[Tomcat76]

S3pHiroTh, on Jan 22 2007, 10:28 AM, said:

Sonic, on Jan 22 2007, 12:18 AM, said:

S3pHiroTh, on Jan 21 2007, 11:30 PM, said:

If you put only one version of a net framework, the output is only an exe file that install that version, if you put, for examples, net 1.1 binaries and net 2.0 binaries, the output of this script will consists of 2 exe installer, one for 1.1 net framework and the other for the 2.0 net framework.

Thank you !

I forgot to tell you that in the .ini file has an option that can merge into one executable for 1.1 and 2.0 net framework, you can read that option in the first post of this topic

You can also merge .NET 1.1 with .NET 3.0

Yzöwl, on Jan 22 2007, 05:33 AM, said:

cyberyeye, on Jan 21 2007, 11:25 PM, said:

This script is amazing !

Wonderful job Tomcat76

The results and /or idea of the script may be, and the Tomcat76's effort and methodology is as usual to be commended. There is however nothing amazing about the script.

Us speak a different lingo...

[Sonic]

Thanks for correction Tomcat.
Are there any issues for the moment using your versions ?
If install will pass, frameworks will acts exactly same as standard installers, isn't it ?

[Tomcat76]

I don't see why there should be any issues. I've been going on past experience for .NET 1.1, some useful info posted by S3pHiroTh for .NET 2.0 (the ADDEPLOY variable) and an MSDN doc for .NET 3.0.

But... you shouldn't really ask me. The only program I use that requires .NET is Sound Forge 8. It's working, though.

Just know that if you install .NET 1.1 and .NET 2.0 in one go, the system requires a reboot before .NET 2.0-dependent programs can be installed. Workaround: don't install .NET 1.1.

[S3pHiroTh]

Tomcat another question
Before you have made this script I have included KB927977 hotfix in HF directory of hfslip, now you have made this script that can include that patch , is better to include it in hfslip directory or to include it in this script? What are the differences?

This post has been edited by S3pHiroTh: 23 January 2007 - 02:04 AM

[Tomcat76]

Glentium already asked this (see my second post on this page if you're using the default posts per page setting).

But it doesn't really matter. A .NET 3.0 installer made with this tool will only replace existing MSXML6 binaries during installation if the existing ones are older (unlike what happens if you install the original dotnetfx3.exe normally).

[S3pHiroTh]

Sorry for my last question... I have read that post of glendir about msxml6 some days ago and I have forgot that reply

This is my feedback with the latest update 20060122:
I have slipstreamed all the net packages (slipstreamed language packs too), I have put the file msxml6-KB927977-ita-x86.exe in SNM directory (where is the script), and created the net installers (3 executables).
I have removed net2.0 from net3.0 package with the option of .ini file.
After I have installed Windows, I have run Windows Update, it tells me that KB927977 hotfix isn't installed.

I have do something wrong?

I'll try now to do the same thing, but without remove net2.0 from net3.0 package. I'll tell you my feedback for this way

This post has been edited by S3pHiroTh: 23 January 2007 - 07:34 AM

[Tomcat76]

S3pHiroTh, on Jan 23 2007, 02:25 PM, said:

I have put the file msxml6-KB927977-ita-x86.exe in SNM directory (where is the script), and created the net installers (3 executables).

After I have installed Windows, I have run Windows Update, it tells me that KB927977 hotfix isn't installed.

I have made something wrong?

Yes. The script expects msxml6.msi, not msxml6-KB927977-xxx-x86.exe, as explained in the instructions...

This post has been edited by Tomcat76: 23 January 2007 - 07:30 AM