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Silent .NET Maker (latest update: 20080603) Create silent switchless .NET installers for Win2K/XP/2K3 x86 Rate Topic: -----

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 03:14 PM

View Postan3k, on Dec 11 2008, 09:20 PM, said:

...2) Open C:\ and look for a directory called like d7a826619cc540b9c1e1855266669e38, you probably will find two. one of them doesn't contain sub-directories but instead of that, eula and other files are available for all supported languages. first prove!
3) Now open the C:\d7a826619cc540b9c1e1855266669e38\wcu\dotNetFramework\dotNetFX35\x86\ directory and run the netfx35_x86.exe with /? switch. Another directory is created in C:\
4) Inside of that dir you'll find vs_setup.cab, open that file with winzip or any other decompressor. Also in this file localization is present. second prove! and this is the 3.5 SP1 installer!
5) Open C:\d7a826619cc540b9c1e1855266669e38\wcu\dotNetFramework\dotNetFX20\clr.msp with WinRAR (WinZIP does not work!), also here localization is done. third prove!

This doesn't probe anything more than 3.5 SP1 redist has "some slight" localization.

View Postan3k, on Dec 11 2008, 09:20 PM, said:

... Right but after installing it everything with .NET is fine, no other Patches or Lang Packs...

What do you mean?

FIREPROOF: Disconnect your 100 MB/s connection and type dotnetfx35.exe /lang:DEU. Installation will hang at download time. What else?


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Posted 11 December 2008 - 03:26 PM

View Poststrel, on Dec 11 2008, 10:14 PM, said:

FIREPROOF: Disconnect your 100 MB/s connection and type dotnetfx35.exe /lang:DEU. Installation will hang at download time. What else?
Specifying a language will abort/crash the setup also like using the /norollback switch. The Redist Package will install the same language as the system is in but if this lang is not supported english will be installed.

we cannot test the /lang switch until microsoft releases a fixed installer, i dont know if they will - setup is working, attended and unattended.

but what we can do is unconnecting the network cable shortly before the setup of .netfx 3.5 sp1 starts. i'll do that after i've written a short Windows Components Reference :)

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 03:31 PM

View Postan3k, on Dec 11 2008, 10:26 PM, said:

Specifying a language will abort/crash the setup also like using the /norollback switch. The Redist Package will install the same language as the system is in but if this lang is not supported english will be installed...

I meant the system waits for a download to continue, the language files obviously, not an intalling crash.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 03:37 PM

View Postbfc_xxx, on Dec 11 2008, 11:43 AM, said:

I think it is SP1 because I followed your link

And what langpack version?

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 03:56 PM

View Poststrel, on Dec 11 2008, 10:31 PM, said:

View Postan3k, on Dec 11 2008, 10:26 PM, said:

Specifying a language will abort/crash the setup also like using the /norollback switch. The Redist Package will install the same language as the system is in but if this lang is not supported english will be installed...

I meant the system waits for a download to continue, the language files obviously, not an intalling crash.
I know what you meant, this is the intention of the switches but the Redistributable Package is somehow broken and using the switches /norollback or /lang will abort or crash the setup. i already tested that under same conditions. i'm using an unattended windows setup written completely by myself (no nlite or something). cmdlines.txt executes %CDROM%\$OEM$\RunOnceEx.cmd which will load T:\RunOnceEx1.cmd (network drive) and then shutdown -r -t 180. everything gets installed and configured like in a fully attended setup. at the next reboot applications will be installed, at first .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 Redist Package (note its a slipstreamed SP3).

If setup of .NET was not successful i modified the command line of it and rebooted the pc again from CD so ONLY the switches of the setup are changed, nothing else. using "NET.exe /quiet /norestart" works perfectly while command lines like "NET.exe /quiet /norollback /norestart" or "NET.exe /quiet /norestart /lang:DEU" will result in an unsuccessful installation.


I also noticed that IE7 won't work if you install .NET after IE7 and does not reboot after IE7 installation. installing .NET before IE7 without rebooting between works perfectly.

This post has been edited by an3k: 11 December 2008 - 03:58 PM


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Posted 11 December 2008 - 04:10 PM

View Postan3k, on Dec 11 2008, 10:56 PM, said:

"NET.exe /quiet /norestart /lang:DEU" will result in an unsuccessful installation.

Have you tried without /quiet? Had the system connection at that time?

View Postan3k, on Dec 11 2008, 10:56 PM, said:

I also noticed that IE7 won't work if you install .NET after IE7 and does not reboot after IE7 installation. installing .NET before IE7 without rebooting between works perfectly.

Interesting.

This post has been edited by strel: 11 December 2008 - 04:11 PM


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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:16 AM

Yes, strel, at time of my testings, windows was installed completely attended (orig. XPSP2 CD, restart, then SP3, restart, then all drivers, restart, then .NET). I've tried installing .NET with working internet connection with /quiet /norollback /norestart /lang:DEU and the installation was not successful (neither Control Panel > Software nor Microsoft Update nor the .NET3.5SP1 installer itself was able to find a .NET 3.5SP1 installation on my system). Then i tried /norollback /norestart /lang:DEU and i got the same result (the setup doesnt show any error but nothing was installed, setup finished to early).
I also tried an attended installation with /norollback and also /lang only, same result. Also /lang:ENU only was not working.

The internet connection was always available since i was browsing on a second computer while the first was installing .NET :)


Regarding your last postings i still will test installing it without internet to see if and which components are downloaded by the .net installer. will report here ;)

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 08:24 PM

I have updated SNM Synthesized in post #279 script to version 7 to correct some bugs I dropped in my previous update, and add cosmetic changes.

Hope you enjoy. :thumbup

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 02:57 AM

View Poststrel, on Dec 13 2008, 03:24 AM, said:

I have updated SNM Synthesized in post #279 script to version 7 to correct some bugs I dropped in my previous update, and add cosmetic changes.

Hope you enjoy. :thumbup



Hi Strel.

Using your latest SNM_mod7 with only "dotnetfx35.exe" (SP1 231 MB) and "_SNM.ini" set to MERGE_FRAMEWORKS=FULL just expands "dotnetfx35.exe" and makes this error message with no output file created at all.

-----------------------------------------------------
Processing .NET installer...

Creating merged .NET 1.1 , , and installer...

Done!

Press any key to quit...
-----------------------------------------------------

Any ideas? It worked with earlier mod4, 5 and 6.

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 09:46 AM

Thanks....

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 10:08 AM

View PostTrolleri, on Dec 9 2008, 04:49 PM, said:

View PostStoner81, on Dec 9 2008, 06:19 PM, said:

... during the creation it gave an error saying that a file could not be found ...
What file could not be found? Is it the file 7za.exe?

If it is, then you have to download Tomcat76's original script: http://users.telenet...0080603/SNM.zip
Unzip it to the same folder as the one you have all the other files in, and run strel's SNM_mod5.cmd again. Strel decided not to include this file in his package, but as far as I know, you will need it together with all the other files in SNM_mod5.zip.

When I use this script for creating the danish DNF_full.exe, I run SNM_mod5.cmd, with these files in the folder:
7za.exe
7zSD.sfx
dotnetfx.exe
dotnetfx35.exe
dotnetfx35langpack_x86da.exe
langpack.exe
NDP1.1sp1-KB867460-X86.exe
NDP1.1sp1-KB928366-X86.exe
SNM_mod5.cmd
_SNM.ini (modified to MERGE_FRAMEWORKS=FULL)

And it gave me: DNF_all.exe (55,3 MB)
This danish version works with all versions and languagepacks installed correctly under Add / Remove Programs - even the languagepack for 3.5 gets installed correctly.

View PostStoner81, on Dec 9 2008, 06:19 PM, said:

... I tested the installer on my desktop to test it and it installed no problem at all except it did not install v1.0 + service packs ...
It might have been my fault, that you are confused :D You will not see 1.0 in Add / Remove Programs, but you should see 1.1.

View PostStoner81, on Dec 9 2008, 06:19 PM, said:

... Anyway i hope you can help me on this one and thank you so much for your hard work in the creation of this wonderful script! ...
Sorry, but I will not take credit for this script - thank Tomcat76 for it, and strel for the recent modification. But I hope my reply will help you with their awesome script!


Ok guys thanks for your help I will remake it from scratch and I will re download all the needed files just in case mine are corrupted or something and then I will report back on how things have gone.. thanks again guys!

Stoner81.

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 10:41 AM

Right its official!!!! Im pulling my hair out with this!!!!! *cries*

I have now done the following....

1. Downloaded the needed .NET v1.x files needed including the two the updates.
2. Downloaded the needed .NET v3.5 full (231mb version that has the service pack in it)
3. Downloaded the script from post 1.
4. Downloaded strel's remade SNM_mod7.cmd script and and files.

I have not got .NET v2 since its included with the 231mb v3.

Ok so here is what I have then proceeded to do....

1. I have not modified the SNM.ini answer file just to keep things simple.
2. I ran the SNM_mod7.cmd script to create the installers as shown in strel's post.

This ONLY created a silent installer for v1 of the .NET Framework and not the others even though they are there and have not be renamed or anything (I followed the instructions to the letter) the script ran smoothly with no errors saying a file was missing or anything at all so I have not got a clue!!!

Please help!!!!

Stoner81

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 12:43 PM

Have you installed .NET 2.0 previous to start the building process?

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 12:56 PM

View Poststrel, on Dec 15 2008, 06:43 PM, said:

Have you installed .NET 2.0 previous to start the building process?


I have all the .NET Framework installed on my system thats running the script m8 including the service packs and all the latest updates from MS I dunno what other info to give you m8 :( sorry dude....

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 01:02 PM

View Postferk, on Dec 13 2008, 09:57 AM, said:

...Using your latest SNM_mod7 with only "dotnetfx35.exe" (SP1 231 MB) and "_SNM.ini" set to MERGE_FRAMEWORKS=FULL just expands "dotnetfx35.exe" and makes this error message with no output file created at all.

-----------------------------------------------------
Processing .NET installer...

Creating merged .NET 1.1 , , and installer...

Done!

Press any key to quit...
-----------------------------------------------------

Any ideas? It worked with earlier mod4, 5 and 6.

I pretty suggest you to use SNM_mod5 for your purposes since I don't release the new update I'm working on.

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 01:06 PM

View Poststrel, on Dec 15 2008, 07:02 PM, said:

View Postferk, on Dec 13 2008, 09:57 AM, said:

...Using your latest SNM_mod7 with only "dotnetfx35.exe" (SP1 231 MB) and "_SNM.ini" set to MERGE_FRAMEWORKS=FULL just expands "dotnetfx35.exe" and makes this error message with no output file created at all.

-----------------------------------------------------
Processing .NET installer...

Creating merged .NET 1.1 , , and installer...

Done!

Press any key to quit...
-----------------------------------------------------

Any ideas? It worked with earlier mod4, 5 and 6.

I pretty suggest you to use SNM_mod5 for your purposes since I don't release the new update I'm working on.


where is this version then m8y?

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 01:48 PM

I recreated exactly your steps but the builiding process is working well. It created DNF35sp1.exe, DNF30SP2.exe, DNF20SP2.exe, and DNF11.exe smothly.

To be sure we both are using SNM_mod7.cmd with "date modified" 2008/12/13 02:35 isn't it?

No idea of where is your problem. But I tend to think it is something in your system.

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 01:52 PM

View Poststrel, on Dec 15 2008, 07:48 PM, said:

I recreated exactly your steps but the builiding process is working well. It created DNF35sp1.exe, DNF30SP2.exe, DNF20SP2.exe, and DNF11.exe smothly.

To be sure we both are using SNM_mod7.cmd with "date modified" 2008/12/13 02:35 isn't it?

No idea of where is your problem. But I tend to think it is something in your system.


Yes I am using SNM_mod7 with that time stamp (date modified) so i have no idea!!! Cud it be spyware or a virus in my system or something? or possibly im running too much at once (MSN, Firefox while making them) I totally at a loss!!!!

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 02:07 PM

It's clear you reached the compression area. Compressing installers is a CPU and specially memory consuming process. If you were consuming all memory the process should extend hours, it would be strange if this would be the cause. Although try COMPRESSION_RATIO=LOW in _SNM.ini. And if this doesn't work edit this line of SNM_mod7.cmd:
IF "%COMPRESSION_RATIO%"=="LOW" SET MEMPARAM=-mx=7
and where says mx=7 put mx=1 and try again. This means just packaging, no compression.

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 02:11 PM

View Poststrel, on Dec 15 2008, 08:07 PM, said:

It's clear you reached the compression area. Compressing installers is a CPU and specially memory consuming process. If you were consuming all memory the process should extend hours, it would be strange if this would be the cause. Although try COMPRESSION_RATIO=LOW in _SNM.ini. And if this doesn't work edit this line of SNM_mod7.cmd:
IF "%COMPRESSION_RATIO%"=="LOW" SET MEMPARAM=-mx=7
and where says mx=7 put mx=1 and try again. This means just packaging, no compression.


Ok will try that but I have also now tested it with the original SNM.cmd file found in post 1 and it runs fine just says that it cant find a file in 3.5 which we already know about so I know that my system can handle the compression here are my specs;

CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz
GPU - GeForce 8400M GS 256MB
RAM - 2GB DDR2

This should be ok since it has worked before but I will try what you have suggested m8 and report back!

Thanks for all your help m8 very much appreciated!

Stoner81.

EDIT!

Tried the COMPRESSION and it still did it m8

This post has been edited by Stoner81: 15 December 2008 - 02:19 PM


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