[S3pHiroTh]

Tomcat76, on Jan 23 2007, 02:29 PM, said:

S3pHiroTh, on Jan 23 2007, 02:25 PM, said:

I have put the file msxml6-KB927977-ita-x86.exe in SNM directory (where is the script), and created the net installers (3 executables).

After I have installed Windows, I have run Windows Update, it tells me that KB927977 hotfix isn't installed.

I have made something wrong?

Yes. The script expects msxml6.msi, not msxml6-KB927977-xxx-x86.exe, as explained in the instructions...

Argh
Before I'll post the next question I'll read twice this topic...

My apologies

EDIT: Ok I have tested once again, I have slipstreamed all the net packages into 3 executables (in 3.0 net pack I have removed the 2.0 version binaries)with their language packs. After I have installed Windows, I search in Event Viewer for any kind of error, there are one error about 1.1 net framework and 3 errors about 3.0 net framework (and 3 errors about the part of the language pack of those components). The components that aren't installed properly are:
-Windows Communication Foundation
-Windows Presentation Foundation
-Windows Workflow Foundation

+ Windows Cardspace isn't installed, but I have told this before

This post has been edited by S3pHiroTh: 23 January 2007 - 10:43 AM

[Tomcat76]

Don't know if this is your problem, but it's been said a few times that .NET 3.0 won't install if you installed .NET 1.1 first without rebooting.

This will not work:
.NET 1.1
.NET 3.0

This will work:
.NET 1.1
<reboot>
.NET 3.0

This will also work and it's done if you merge 1.1 with 3.0 (but I can't test thoroughly if there are any side effects):
.NET 3.0
.NET 1.1

I just updated the main post so it's explicitly stated there too.

[Tomcat76]

BTW... The newest version supports your msxml6-KB927977-ita-x86.exe...

[S3pHiroTh]

Tomcat76, on Jan 23 2007, 06:04 PM, said:

Don't know if this is your problem, but it's been said a few times that .NET 3.0 won't install if you installed .NET 1.1 first without rebooting.

This will not work:
.NET 1.1
.NET 3.0

This will work:
.NET 1.1
<reboot>
.NET 3.0

This will also work and it's done if you merge 1.1 with 3.0 (but I can't test thoroughly if there are any side effects):
.NET 3.0
.NET 1.1

I just updated the main post so it's explicitly stated there too.

Mmmhhh... I simply put the executable files in HFSVCPACK in HFSLIP directory... obviously with HFSLIP, it installs first 1.1 version, then 2.0 then 3.0... Maybe is better to do a modified version of HFSLIP that install first 2.0 version, then 3.0 and then the 1.1 version of net framework...

[Tomcat76]

And add support for every possible .NET 1.1 executable name? Or force people who don't use this script to name it DNF11.exe? I don't think that's really feasible...

Why don't you just rename the output file(s)? It's easy...

1_DNF20.exe
2_DNF30.exe
3_DNF11.exe

[S3pHiroTh]

Tomcat76, on Jan 23 2007, 08:23 PM, said:

And add support for every possible .NET 1.1 executable name? Or force people who don't use this script to name it DNF11.exe? I don't think that's really feasible...

Why don't you just rename the output file(s)? It's easy...

1_DNF20.exe
2_DNF30.exe
3_DNF11.exe

I have tried this method and it doesn't work. It installs 2.0 and 3.0 without error, windows cardspace is installed too... but 1.1 net framework doesn't install at all. Now I'll try to merge 1.1 with 3.0. I'll tell you if in this way all works well.

EDIT: I have tried with the merge installer and everything is installed well, windows cardspace is installed properly, only 2 errors are shown about Windows Presentation Foundation.
These errors are:
-Product: Windows Presentation Foundation -- Error 2004. Method SHGetFolderPath failed. HRESULT: 0x80004005
-Product: Windows Presentation Foundation -- Error 2004. Method GetFontCacheDataFolder failed. HRESULT: 0x80004005

Anyway, in other event properties, there is one that show me that Windows Presentation Foundation is installed completely.

This post has been edited by S3pHiroTh: 24 January 2007 - 10:49 AM

[Tomcat76]

I am aware of those errors but am not sure why they are logged.

Windows Communication Foundation (installed right before Windows Presentation Foundation) also calls the SHGetFolderPath function and it doesn't report an error. However, right after the SHGetFolderPath calls in the Communication Foundation log it's written that the needed info was found "by spelunking the registry"... which could indicate that the calls did fail but that there was a "backup method" (scanning the registry).

I don't think that the Presentation Foundation installer doesn't have a backup method, otherwise the new fonts wouldn't be present in the Windows Fonts folder. So I guess the difference lies in the nature of the logging: report everything except "recoverable errors" for WCF, and report only errors for WPF. I'll have the WPF installer output a verbose log to verify that.

[S3pHiroTh]

Another error is that Webclient service doesn't start anymore with the merged installer. It reports that his current state is not valid 87 and it stops itself.
Today I'll try to install the merged installer like the RunOnce.cmd do (in Windows, but automatically with a batch) and I'll tell you if there are some errors. If in this method it hasn't had any error, maybe is better to install Net frameworks in Windows than SVCPACK directory (I tell you as a HFSLIP user)

EDIT: Ok I have installed Merged Net pack (in Windows) and everything is installed without error, only some warning are shown in event viewer. These warnings are:

-Could not detect IIS installation or IIS is disabled, skipping the Web Host Script Mappings component since it depends upon IIS to function properly.
If you believe this message is an error, check your IIS installation to make sure it is installed properly.

This is OK, I haven't installed ISS.

-Configuration section system.serviceModel does not exist in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Config\machine.config.

-Configuration section system.runtime.serialization does not exist in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Config\machine.config.

-Configuration section system.serviceModel.activation does not exist in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Config\machine.config.

-A configuration entry for BuildProvider System.ServiceModel.Activation.ServiceBuildProvider, System.ServiceModel, Version=3.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089 does not exist.

-All compilation assembly nodes do not exist in System.Web section group.

-HttpHandlers node *.svc does not exist in System.Web section group.

-HttpModules node ServiceModel does not exist in System.Web section group.

-HTTP namespace reservations are not installed.

If you know some tests to do, I'll do the tests. Ask if you want to...

This post has been edited by S3pHiroTh: 25 January 2007 - 06:16 AM

[Tomcat76]

I also have this problem with the WebClient service but thought it was because of my system. I had to reinstall Virtual PC 2004 recently because my NICs weren't properly recognized anymore by it so I assumed it was a "leftover" from those problems.

This could take some time to debug. I'll start off with trying RogueSpear's silent installer to see if it produces the same problem. If not, I may have to abandon the admin install approach for the .NET 3.0 "wrapper"; the downsides of that will be:
- future updates can't be slipstreamed
- you can no longer customize the .NET 3.0 install
That would really stink...

[Tomcat76]

Alright. I did the test with RogueSpear's installer.

- the two errors for Windows Presentation Foundation are there
- WebClient service fails

So nothing that I'm doing differently from RogueSpear is causing this.


In my situation, this leaves room for three possibilities:

1) .NET 3.0 can't be installed from SVCPACK
2) There's an unforeseen error in one or more of the .NET 3.0 applications
3) IE7 and .NET 3.0 don't get along very well (either the install order should be changed or one should be omitted; I installed IE7 from SVCPACK.INF after .NET 3.0)

This post has been edited by Tomcat76: 25 January 2007 - 10:10 AM

[Tomcat76]

The problems are still there when only installing .NET 3.0 from SVCPACK.INF (RogueSpear's).
Conclusion: .NET 3.0 just can't be installed at T-13.

I updated the main post and the readme file in the script package.

[S3pHiroTh]

Tomcat76, on Jan 26 2007, 12:41 AM, said:

The problems are still there when only installing .NET 3.0 from SVCPACK.INF (RogueSpear's).
Conclusion: .NET 3.0 just can't be installed at T-13.

I updated the main post and the readme file in the script package.

Ok
For HFSLIP users, can you add a directory like NET for adding 3.0 net framework that can install itself at windows first logon?

[some1]

does anyknow how I could do this will "iexpress.exe"???
Tho I must say, the program does do the trick!
worked for me
now I just got to find out, how to run it with windows setup!!!!

[darafat]

i ve tryed your tools
installed via svcpack, at T-13
result:



now i don t understand if it works or not and just appear that the framework 3.0 it s installed

note: i don't use IE7

Sorry for my bad english ^^
anyway thanks (just because it seems to work )
I was joking

great job!!

[inited]

Greetings, this is my first post (newbie alert!). Please forgive if I kind of barge in here, and also if you find this post to be in the inappropriate thread. I've been searching the forums for about a week now and, while I'm not absolutely certain to have looked everywhere proper for an answer, I can at least say I tried.

The guide to make a silent installer worked ok for me, I tested it on another computer and it worked just ok. Now, what I do want to do with this installer is integrate it in a WinXP SP2 unattended cd. The problem with this lies in the fact that I am, well, pretty much ignorant on the subject. There's nLite which is brilliant, but nLite says Dot Net can't go with hotfixes, not being, well, a hotfix. So I thought I'd ask here if an installer made through the SNM can *at all* be integrated/slipstreamed into a WinXP install disc and, if so, how. Please bear in mind that I don't know much about svcpack.inf and such, but will readily read any documentation about it if necessary. Since I'm doing pretty much everything else with nLite though, if there is indeed a way to do this I will most certainly need to know whether it must be done before or after feeding source files to nLite.

Thanks for your time in advance

Inited()

[S3pHiroTh]

I'll pm you, so we can speak italian ok? I teach you how to make an unattended install

[Tomcat76]

@darafat
.NET 3.0 breaks the WebClient service in Windows if installed at T-13 (from SVCPACK.INF). It must be installed at first GUI logon.

[darafat]

Tomcat76, on Jan 27 2007, 11:55 AM, said:

@darafat
.NET 3.0 breaks the WebClient service in Windows if installed at T-13 (from SVCPACK.INF). It must be installed at first GUI logon.

Thanks

so i must install the two output (net 1.1 and net 2.0) via svcpack, and the third output (not 3.0) via RunOnceEx

[Tomcat76]

Yes. But don't include .NET 2.0 inside .NET 3.0 in that case (it would be pointless). The latest version of SNM excludes it by default.

[S3pHiroTh]

Tomcat you should remove the option of MERGE_FRAMEWORKS=13 from this script

EDIT: Found a bug in the latest script, if I set MERGE_FRAMEWORKS=12, and I put files for all version of Net framework, silent installer for version 3.0 isn't created. In .ini file PROCESS_DNF3 is YES

This post has been edited by S3pHiroTh: 27 January 2007 - 02:28 PM