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Now I can't open the file no matter what I use. I even bought a converter and it can't open it either and I know the cd isn't scratched or anything.
Can someone here help me with this? I'd apprecaite any help at all. :)

Thanks in advance,

Becky


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Have you tried opening it in Wordpad or for example Notepad2?

Which Office version are you using now and which one were you using when you wrote it?

Try opening it on another computer.


As I see it there are two possible causes:
-File created in a way that is not compatible with your current software.
-The CD has gotten old and/or damaged (you should always use branded high quality media when recording) and cannot be read correctly.

There are solutions for both cases that may work, but it's not 100% certain.


If you want to I can PM you my email, so you can send me the file and I'll try opening it using a few different progs.

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Please clarify: Is the file you are trying to open on a CD? Are you trying to open the file directly from the CD?

If so, then try copying the file to your hard drive first. If the file copies without a problem, it's not the CD problem. If it does not copy, it could be a bad CD. Whether the CD looks scratched or not does not matter. Sometimes a CD will look perfectly okay but may not read at all. Sometimes a CD will have many scratches but read fine.

Second, what kind of file is it? A Microsoft Word document with *.doc extension? *.txt? Please clarify this as well.
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[Modify Office 2007 / 2010 Ribbon UI] [Javascript Guide] [Methods of Typing in Gujarati] [My Math Pages]
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That's the problem, I can't remember what I saved it as back then. I bounced from my own desktop pc to my daughters fiances laptop when writing depending on how my back felt that day. The reason I know that this cd contains a saved file from his pc instead of mine is because when I tried to convert it, I got a bunch of code but within all the code it said Richard and Tabitha and then the name of their company, so it was picking up his pc info as well.

I can send the file to someone if you want, I have been working since the wee hours this morning to open it and have had no luck. Maybe you will.

Oh and I have wordperfect office 12, but also got a demo version of ms word 2007 to see if that would work but it doesn't either.

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File sent...hope you got it :)

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We need some help here!
I've been working on this one for several hours now without any success.
The file seems very important to the topic starter, but unfortunately she only has one copy of it (on a CDR that may've gone bad).

The file is a standard .DOC and supposed to be written a few years back (2003) in MS Word in plain english using some common font (Arial/Helvetica/Times/Garmond or similar).

I've tried (on a fresh copy of the file, sometimes trying more than one thing):
-To open and/or convert it using a number of different text editing programs and office suits (97/XP/2003/2007/OpenOffice/WordPerfect/Wordpad/Notepad2/UltraEdit/DOS edit)
-Rename the file in a number of different ways.
-Open/extract it using other kinds of software (Photoshop/a few media players/PDF reader/WinRAR/UltraISO)
-Recover and/or convert using many different progs and a few free online services specialized in the subject.
-Change the coding and other things.

The topic starter has, by my instructions, used a software (CDCheck) to read the file off the CD.
She has also tried to read the cd using another computer.

The file can be opened in for example Wordpad (not in Word), but without returning any readable info:
¥‚Ä\ ž”ps´ÐeÔÎså™.DÐD°_û__ü–_ïEºFîà<ë_° úN!6__~³ÃE ¬±nœ_
\7Îá,åO29Åž‹Ð§Ó_á¿ì]7àÏJ²ð”ßLÃ_'_=Ué¸6ˆÑuÕ _–C•)”_Ëš0‹€Ü*AÂv_￾_ù…S£´¸_ÐoбQäUß￾‘…äÓñ¥Tõžwfs_j_
‘_.‘SØWÑ¢®__”ù_ŒÝ_<_u￾’!=LúŒ‘¹&#('¬ì¦_
‰¸E#gþ€ºØÐNé,￾\ŽŠÿò‘Ó®—3&ÁJÎH*Ù_W?Lˆ1Œ5gy￾ ÕÙè1ÔþMœÆ￾†víÔ_†ö|ÒÆ&L•€j}Qy)g:VÔƒ÷úDWÍ_‘iT°￾YDàgVð C•æg‹áý__´æ'½/Øè_-ÎtŠì#¯ð‚Õþm§xR9^íçû_Îô‚￾d\_Ó#`7©™}u¦mC˜ñ￾_J\O(*U1_$¸
(This is just a small sample of what it looks like.)

I've got a few theories:
-File is encrypted (haven't been asked for a password though, decryption softwares say the file is damaged)
-It's corrupted/damaged (it's likely the case, however there seems to be something in it which we cannot read)
-Some coding or font problem (can be possible, but is unlikely considering the language, fonts and software used)

Edit: Just added Office 2007 to the list of progs I've used in trying to open this file.

Edited by DL., 03 February 2007 - 10:35 PM.


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what does the file header look like in a HEX editor, like Hex Workshop?

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Well hopefully DL knows because I sure don't...lol

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Okay, I downloaded Hex Workshop and opened the file in it, but I have no clue how to copy what it's showing me so you can see it. Anyway ideas?

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Okay, here's something I have yet to see in the code until I used that hex workshop. This was at the bottem on the code and I don't know if it means anything in particular, but have a looksie :)

 
                  .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .       !   "   #   $   %   &   '   (   )   *   +   ,   -   .   /   0   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   :   ;   <   =   >   ?   @   A   B   C   D   E   F   G   H   I   J   K   L   M   N   O   P   Q   R   S   T   U   V   W   X   Y   Z   [   \   ]   ^   _   `   a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h   i   j   k   l   m   n   o   p   q   r   s   t   u   v   w   x   y   z   {   |   }   ~   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .....   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .....   .   .   .   .   .   .   .....   .   .   .   .   .   .   .............   ....................................................................R o o t   E n t r y                                             . ...........   ...     .      F            Pe_."n...   .       1 T a b l e                                                     . .......   ....                                    .   .(      W o r d D o c u m e n t                                         . ...   ........                                        %..     . S u m m a r y I n f o r m a t i o n                           ( ...   .   ....                                    .    .      . D o c u m e n t S u m m a r y I n f o r m a t i o n           8 ..............                                    .    .      . C o m p O b j                                                 . . ............                                        j                                                                           ............                                                                                                                    ............                                                .   ....................................................................................................
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......... .... ....... . F. Microsoft Word Document . MSWordDoc . Word.Document.8 .9.q


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It's seems like there is a problem with it.

A Word document STARTS with the following header:
00000000   D0 CF 11 E0 A1 B1 1A E1		ÐÏ.ࡱ.á

and ends with something VERY like what you posted (+ some trailing 00's).

So if the beginning is correct, possibly the data is still there.

If the document was not encrypted, it should conatin all the text in plain format, in UNICODE or ASCII (i.e. the word "word" could be found as either "word" or "w.o.r.d.").

Try using a text extractor, like this one:
http://www2.objdump....text/readme.txt
http://www2.objdump....ext/bintext.exe

on the file, and see if it finds more strings.

jaclaz

Edited by jaclaz, 04 February 2007 - 05:51 PM.


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My last post with the code only contained the very last part of the entire code, so you wouldn't have seen the top of it (or I assume the header).
I just used thatBin Text that you suggested and this is what I got. Hopefully you can make some sense of it. Seems rather confusing to me because it says both ms word 10.0 AND ms word 8.....so which was it written in? Your guess is as good as mine. :wacko:

Here's what I got:

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Well, no, it is perfectly normal that you made a document with Word 10.0 and the last reference is to 8, that refers to the version of the .doc format, not to that of the application.
(.doc formats are the same since Office 97, i.e. version 8)

The problem appears to me the size of the file, how big it is?

The offset 0001E45D you reported is in decimal 123,997 bytes, since the "Word.Document.8" is very near to the end of file, it seems like the file is too little to contain long stretches of text.

Could it be that this is just a "tail" of the original file?

Did you remember (approximately) how big it was originally?

Have you checked in Winhex that the first few bytes correspond to the ones I posted?

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Here is what was in the beginning of the hex:

........ > . ... . . . . . . .... . . ....................................................................................................
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............................... 5@.. ... 4 . . .v. . bjbj.2.2 ... %.. ;.......v5.#.....SjB....DL...z"TN..h..@Rr.$..a..K......RG`P%......Yv..D...!..Lk...WEl....R...05....J..Lan.e......2...%......../..k.%.1.J.N..<%.\?/...6 wWbD....&.UJ..W.l.C.....).7....fP."n...[=.$~.t.......{..D.s./.{.g i.

As for the size of the original file when I saved it, no clue, but I know I had at the very least 80 pages (only maybe 3 or 4 were the beginning for chapters) so I know it can't be too awful small.

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The problem appears to me the size of the file, how big it is?


:blink:

I don't want to give you false hopes, but the "bjbj.2.2" you just posted, that should look as:

00000544 0E 00 62 6A 62 6A CF 32 CF 32 ..bjbjÏ2Ï2

in Winhex, is part of the header, and is always located at offset (decimal) 544
and the "........>" at the beginning appears like offset 16 of a word document.

So it seems like the file is missing just a few bytes in the beginning.


Depending on the size of the file, you might want to send me a copy of it, or put it somewhere where I can download it, so that I can have a look at it.

Please PM me the info or your e-mail, so that we can find a way.

But still, the fact that bintext found only those lines makes e think that very little data is in it.

Maybe it is possible that some more data is "somewhere" on the CD, though it would be strange.

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I have no problem with sending you the file. Maybe you can get further than anyone else has so far or at least end my hope that the book is still in fact there. =/
The cd that I save it on has all sorts of other files that belong to the family as well.

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Ok,
I am PMing you my e-mail address, if the file is smaller than 1 Mb, please send it to me, I'll have a look at it and let you know.

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sent the file :)

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Got it, unfortunately, it seems like the file you sent me has been "tampered with".

Basically all occurrences of 00 (binary 0) have been replaced with 20 (space), cannot say if other modifications have occurred.

Are you sure that the file you sent me is the one you got from the CD, without ANY attempt to open it in any application?

If you are not, please, re-save the file from CD and re-send it to me.

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I opened it directly from the cd when I sent it to you. =/ So I guess that's it. My book is gone forever. :(
Thanks for trying though. I appreciate everyones help so much. :)

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Well, as I see it, rules in these kind of matters are:
#1 DON'T PANIC
#2 NEVER GIVE UP

Game is not over yet ;)

DL. are you still with us?

I got to the point where the file "almost" (but not quite) works, your idea was correct, the file besides the 00/20 substitution is encrypted, or to be more exact it is password protected for opening.

I am still working on it.....

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UPDATE (public, for private part check your e-mail)

I had another go with the file.

I got to the point where different versions of Word (and most other
programs) recognize the file as password protected.

......

I still cannot say if this can be due to some kind of "residual"
corruption of the file (or new one caused by changes I did) or if
it is just because the password is different.

.......

It is still to early to give up....;)


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I'm still with you, just observing to see if someone else is successful in opening the file.

I forgot to mention I saw the file in hex too, but it didn't give me any useful info except the names. I did a binary comparison with another .doc-file to try to find out if the file structure looked the same; however I'm not used to working at the binary level so I didn't find anything.

I had the idea on parts of the file being encrypted and the rest corrupted or altered to prevent opening, unfortunately I didn't know how/where to split the file.

I tried several progs/services in order to maybe break the encryption and/or password, but none of them could even recognize the file.

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I'm still with you, just observing to see if someone else is successful in opening the file.


If you PM me your e-mail address I can send you the "improved" version of the file, so that you can have another try with it.

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