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NT4 Visual Update 3 Release Candidate 1

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oh! lets try this again
http://img170.images...7/cdrivejd8.jpg
http://img170.images...1866/cplnu0.jpg
http://img170.images...4/mycompcu1.jpg
http://img170.images.../networkgs4.jpg
http://img170.images...tartdeskco7.jpg

i started modifing it so now the system dlls are being patched instead of copying a file to replace the orginal which means the package is smaller the uncompressed form is 14.4mb instead of 20mb now i havent done all of them yet and i dont think i want to do shell32.dll using my method


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Nice effort, but you fail.

Just reminds me of those Calmira things for Windows 3.1.

I might give this a go at some point, if I can find a copy of NT4 lying around.

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i fail in what way?

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Well no offence but it doesn't look like a "Visual Update", it just looks like a poorly ripped set of XP resources on an old older OS. The icons don't match the window appearance, neither do the replacement dialog resources, etc. Everything just looks jumbled and mis-matched like Windows Neptune.

Nice effort, but needs a more discerning eye to pull something like this off.

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it doesn't look like a "Visual Update", it just looks like a poorly ripped set of XP resources on an old older OS.


U cannot say something like that... Man tries and works and those icons are not poorly ripped it the OS that doesn't have 32-bit icon support... So u should do something first other then remembering Windows Neptune....

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Cool. I loved NT 4.

This would look much better with the shell update installed, though.

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do you mean the ie4 shell update, well i havent aimed it at that but i could do that, i just thought most people avoided web intergration in nt4

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Is that possible ?
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Is that possible ?

do you mean design a it so that you can have the ie4 shell update installed
I wont do that in the current version but i can in the next if you want it

Anyway i decided to release Version 1.00 i dont think i tested it as much as i should have though but anyway

NT4 Visual Update 1.00
Fixes:
Fixed some of the Copying AVI dialogs

Features:
Much Smaller Size
File Patching including Explorer, CPls, IEdlls etc
Added some more icons here and there

Concerns:
There are a lot of files in the archive just a warning
and I forget to make the archive into a self extractor so it is just a 7z file and i didnt want to upload it again so hopefully you can open it

Download 3.8MB
http://www.divshare....load/563000-8ec

Future Versions
NT4 Visual Update 2.xx Series
Im no longer restricting myself to XP icons Vista is going to be my primary source.

Features:
Newer icons
Newer AVIs
Newer Bitmaps
Support for NT4 Terminal Server
Support for IE4 Shell Update

Fixes:
Better installer or atleast better installation structure

I will try to patch every icon, AVI and Bitmap i can find
And with TM0d's help I can include files without the 16 Colour Icon Limitations
Also TM0d has been doing some other proper Bitmaps to replace my attempts to copy the XP Logon Dialog

Edited by awergh, 04 May 2007 - 04:29 AM.


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And with TM0d's help I can include files without the 16 Colour Icon Limitations
Also TM0d has been doing some other proper Bitmaps to replace my attempts to copy the XP Logon Dialog


That's interesting.

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well i dont know how many 16 colour limitations TM0d will be able to overcome but he overcame the 16 colour limitation in explorer.exe for the systray

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I've managed to destroy :D those stupid 16 colour icons and the patch is at http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=97315

Working on 32-bit icons support... Enjoy in patch...

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it doesn't look like a "Visual Update", it just looks like a poorly ripped set of XP resources on an old older OS.


U cannot say something like that... Man tries and works and those icons are not poorly ripped it the OS that doesn't have 32-bit icon support... So u should do something first other then remembering Windows Neptune....


Cry?

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If u cannot give a constructive reply do not reply at all u are not helping and it doesn't look good as u think it is...

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Nice effort, but you fail.

Just reminds me of those Calmira things for Windows 3.1.

I might give this a go at some point, if I can find a copy of NT4 lying around.

That's a really encouraging thing to say. :rolleyes:

awergh, good job on this. Keep up the good work on it man. Glad to see someone is finally shifting focus to Windows NT :)

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Well no offence but it doesn't look like a "Visual Update", it just looks like a poorly ripped set of XP resources on an old older OS. The icons don't match the window appearance, neither do the replacement dialog resources, etc. Everything just looks jumbled and mis-matched like Windows Neptune.

Nice effort, but needs a more discerning eye to pull something like this off.

Cry?

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awergh, don't get discouraged by those who only know how to criticize others (but don't know s*** about doing anything themselves hehe).
Youre doing great job from what I see on your screencaps, and even though I'm not XP or Vista icons fan, I do appreciate the fact you at least try to DO IT.

PS
Im trying to solve 'the riddle' of high color icons that most of the time disappear after shell update (I reinstalled quite few times NT4 on the same test machine, installed SP6 /postSP6/drivers/and did few settings and 9 out of 10 I loose the original high color icons when installing IE6 with shell update, but few times somehow they stayed there after shell update and its driving me nuts not to know what causes this ;) )
Maybe you know anything about it? :D

Edited by no1none, 19 May 2007 - 11:24 PM.


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dunno, most of the time ive been playing with nt4 without the shell update

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im not upploading nt4vu2 alpha 1 today but i will upload some of the screenshots

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TM0d did the msgina image

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Looks great :D
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thanks
i still havent uploaded it because i have some work i need to do but here are some more screenshots
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with shell update, so there is no 256 colour systray fix

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i will fix the icons in a later version

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NT4 Visual Update 2 Alpha 1

[New Features]
Shell Update Support
Newer image resources from Vista
More App Icons Patched
Includes TM0d's Explorer.exe Patch (Without Shell Update)
Better install Structure (less batch files)
Better installer.exe

[Notes (My installations)]
In the Internet Dialog when click on the Conection Tab Explorer.exe has crashed.
Winmsd.exe Complains about user32.dll shell relocation if shell update is not installed.
can anyone verify this?

NT4VU2 Patches:
Desktop Icons
Dialog Images
App Icons
CPL Icons and Images
Internet Explorer Icons
Start Menu Icons
Folder Icons
Setup Icons
Notepad Shortcuts
Systray Icons
(Thats all I think.)

(This is still a patcher it doesnt copy whole files except explorer.exe for an install without shell update)
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awergh, personally I prefer 7z too, but probably most of people never heard of it.
I just had to explain to webbuddy whom I gave link to your update how to eat it bcause he thought its "some linux or Mac file" ;)

PS
Perhaps you should consider i.e. rar at highest compression, or even better - make it selfextract? (~200kB more on a 7-8MB file doesn't matter anymore IMHO) for your next version.

Edited by no1none, 23 May 2007 - 05:54 PM.


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i tried to make it an exe file but when i uploaded it, it complained that i wasnt allowed to do that, but only after id finished uploading so i uploaded it as 7z, ill host it as an exe next time




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