[eggie]

Hello,

I've got a Geforce 6800 GS/XT and when I run dxdiag it reports that I have Direct X 10 installed.

Now I've been having a couple of problems running games recently namely R6:Las Vegas and was just wondering if this kind of thing could be a problem and what the best way to deal with it would be.

Other system specs are

AMD X2 4600+
2 gig Crucial RAM @ DDR400
Abit AV8
Seagate 120gig hard drive on PATA.
550W PSu

Can't think of any other specs you might need if there are let me know

Thanks all

Dave

This post has been edited by eggie: 14 March 2007 - 02:22 PM

[ripken204]

well it only shows dx10 b/c you are using vista. and vista uses dx10. this doesnt mean that ur video card is dx10, it is actually dx9. so when dx10 games like crysis comes out, your card wont be able to take advantage of the dx10 performance/features.

now your problem with vegas is simply your "crappy" video card. my 7800gt plays it pretty well but i cant go on all high settings, i had to turn some things down to try to prevent lagging, but it still happened anyways. the only way to play the game lag free would be to have SLI or an 8800gts.

so what exactly are the problems that you are having? and what other games are you having problems with?

[nitroshift]

@eggie
Running dxdiag will only tell you what version of DirectX you have installed on your pc as ripken said, not the version that is natively supported by your graphics card. You can check this in the manual that came with the graphics card.
@ripken
Was playing vegas on the rig in my sig at maximum settings without any trace of lag

[eggie]

Ah right I see the problem now.

The only real problem I've been having with it is that it sometimes slows right down to like 2-3 fps other times it runs fine.

I was thinking it may have something to do with the hard disc because it is on PATA and only has a 2 mb cache (i know, it sucks its the next thing on my list to sort out) and everything else on my Vista rating score is in the 5's whereas that is scoring a 4.2

Thanks for explaining the whole DX10 thing, I was fairly sure that that was what it was just wanted to double check.

[ripken204]

nitro-what resolution you play at? im at 1280x1024. many people have problems with that game... for me it was occasional lag when there were lots of guys around. by loweing the settings a rarely ever noticed lag

[Jeremy]

ripken204, on Mar 14 2007, 07:21 PM, said:

now your problem with vegas is simply your "crappy" video card.

A 6800 is by no means a crappy card. I game, edit videos and my 6800GS just rips through anything I throw at it.

[ripken204]

Jeremy, on Mar 15 2007, 09:01 PM, said:

ripken204, on Mar 14 2007, 07:21 PM, said:

now your problem with vegas is simply your "crappy" video card.

A 6800 is by no means a crappy card. I game, edit videos and my 6800GS just rips through anything I throw at it.

that is true but in terms of vegas, it sucks. search google and you will find that many people have extremely low framerates with the 6800series.

[prx984]

No reason to call it crappy. Some people may have really good luck with a piece of hardware someone else thinks is crappy. Usually what happens now is you get one person in say a thousand, that don't like the hardware. They then freak and call it a piece of crap. Which, but no means, summarizes everyone's opinion. My brother has a 6800 and it runs a lot of things perfectly. By no means a crappy card.

People expect way too much from certain things now-a-days

This post has been edited by prx984: 15 March 2007 - 08:24 PM

[ripken204]

well i didnt say it was complete crap, lol. i said "crappy" , with quotes. to me that just means that it can be called crappy compared to today's best cards. i personally am starting to call my 7800gt "crappy" b/c it cant play games with 16xAA without lag, and i want that feature. but almost all games its fine, its just those few like oblivion...

[Zxian]

Sheesh... do you really need 16x AA? I've rendered images with this setting with my own homemade renderer, and the difference between 16x and 8x is really negligible... and costs you a LOT of processing power.

[nitroshift]

ripken204, on Mar 16 2007, 01:27 AM, said:

nitro-what resolution you play at? im at 1280x1024. many people have problems with that game... for me it was occasional lag when there were lots of guys around. by loweing the settings a rarely ever noticed lag

Same as you: 1280x1024, all the rest is set at maximum.

[ripken204]

Zxian, on Mar 16 2007, 01:23 AM, said:

Sheesh... do you really need 16x AA? I've rendered images with this setting with my own homemade renderer, and the difference between 16x and 8x is really negligible... and costs you a LOT of processing power.

lol, yes i do
well 8x at least, but these newew games hate my video card with 8x too.

nitroshift-well lets just call you lucky. at least you dont have to worry about lag in that game.

[Jeremy]

ripken204, on Mar 16 2007, 11:56 AM, said:

Zxian, on Mar 16 2007, 01:23 AM, said:

Sheesh... do you really need 16x AA? I've rendered images with this setting with my own homemade renderer, and the difference between 16x and 8x is really negligible... and costs you a LOT of processing power.

lol, yes i do

ripken204, on Mar 16 2007, 11:44 AM, said:

but i dont think is any way for me to tell if its really on 16xAA or 8xAA... it just looks amazing and thats what really matters.

[Zxian]

I rest my case...

[Jeremy]

Ripken, a good link on AnandTech about Anti-Aliasing. Thanks PuntoMX for the link.

[eggie]

See the thing is I can't see it being my "crappy" card because it's got 512mb of ddr3 memory and that is more than most cards out atm (with the exception of the G80 series obviously).

I was having a think about this last night and was thinking that it may be because of a small 2meg cache on my hard disk. Would this make sense or am I barking up the wrong tree.

Dave

[puntoMX]

Did you read what is behind the link Jeremy posted?

Listen, it´s not your normal hardware, it´s just the not well coded game that doesn´t run smooth on A LOT OF VGA CARDS. It´s not your HDD...

If you like the game then I would wait a few months till the 8600x cards are out, sell the one you have now and for a 100 bucks you are ready to go.

I don´t know what kind of screen you are using? or on what resolucion you are playing? But most of the time 256MB is enough, I would always go for a higher GPU other then more video RAM. Just answer my questions please so we know what advice more we can give .

[ripken204]

higher ram is either for insane resolutions and/or AA/AF. game like oblivion use like 600mb of vram..

[eggie]

The screen I am using is a Samsung 17" TFT. It is quite an old one but I've never had a problem with it so see no reason to replace it, and I'm playing on 1024 by 768. I've tried playing at different resolutions and that hasn't changed anything, also I should point out that it is not the 256mb model I'm using its the 512 so I don't think that can be the problem

I've read the article that Jeremy posted now and gone through and all of the AA settings are turned off.

I've gone through all of my hardware and can't see a weakpoint other than the HDD.

I just want to say thanks as well for all of the help that I've got from these forums they have taught me a lot.

Thanks a lot

Dave

This post has been edited by eggie: 21 March 2007 - 08:15 AM

[puntoMX]

LOL, Changing your HDD will not give you much more game-speed .