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#21 User is offline   herbalist 

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 06:08 PM

That's a scary thought. I wouldn't put it past them to eventually install surveillance-ware in a legally locked kernel via windows update. What really suprised me is that they've "helped" with some Linux flavors as well. The article mentions Novell, but I wonder how many other flavors this affects and what versions, files, etc.
Since it's been demonstrated that Vista's kernel can be compromised, one or more of these 3 applies.
  • Their "contribution" is ineffective or insufficient.
  • It has not yet been implemented.
  • It serves another purpose entirely.
If I had to bet on it, I'd bet on 2 and 3 applying equally.
As far as Windows is concerned, I can't bring myself to trust anything newer than 98. After hearing that they've had their hands in Linux, it becomes difficult to know what would be a trustworthy alternative. For now, it's 98 for me, and an old Knoppix live CD.
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Posted 16 June 2007 - 07:56 PM

Well I use

All Windows 98SE updates Unofficial/Official
MDGx's HOSTS file
Domain Blocklist
Kerio Personal Firewall v2.1.5 32-bit

I used to have Mcafee but i don't have my disk no more
all i need now is a up to date Virus scanner because i extract my files
then scan them before i install them.

I'm thinking of NOD32 or Mcafee i'll just have to buy another disk.
And this should secure your computer well atleast it does mines :thumbup

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 05:28 AM

to Awergh:
i want to use dos based apps as alternative environment in case of emergency when system fails due any reason. Also i want to use it as safe place to begin system recovery. I was able to clear system from virus infection some months ago, simply by finding files which are not part of system (they are too new) and then i used scanreg to return the registries.

system was completely cured manually in 10-15 minutes after initial symptoms. but i am still looking for tool which can make virus test in dosmode to prove that all malicious files are deleted. also in dos mode most infected files are not running or required by system so their removal is easier.

i like arachne because its way of displaying web pages is quite compatible with today's standards and as i have heard it is still being developed. Also i have in dos drivers for most devices which i use. Sound driver, lan card driver, and i also found driver for my TV tuner.

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 07:40 AM

View PostOffler, on Jun 17 2007, 12:28 PM, said:

to Awergh:
i want to use dos based apps as alternative environment in case of emergency when system fails due any reason. Also i want to use it as safe place to begin system recovery. I was able to clear system from virus infection some months ago, simply by finding files which are not part of system (they are too new) and then i used scanreg to return the registries.

system was completely cured manually in 10-15 minutes after initial symptoms. but i am still looking for tool which can make virus test in dosmode to prove that all malicious files are deleted. also in dos mode most infected files are not running or required by system so their removal is easier.

i like arachne because its way of displaying web pages is quite compatible with today's standards and as i have heard it is still being developed. Also i have in dos drivers for most devices which i use. Sound driver, lan card driver, and i also found driver for my TV tuner.

Install mindows onto a cdrom disk, using subst.exe w: c:\cdrom in your autoexec.bat after creating the cdrom directory. After the initial setup stage where it reboots for device detection drop to the dos prompt from f8 ren setupx.dll to setupx.bak then type win. It will moan and groan about this file missing but install will complete. What you have here is a barebones win9x cd which will boot on any machine to do any repairs you might wish to. The methods of creating a bootable read only win9x cdrom are all over the internet. It can even fit onto a cd business card if you so desire. One method i use to revert back to a pc in a state i am happy with is to simply copy over the contents of the windows folder ignoring the swap file to another folder called for example zindows this can be rar ed if you want to reduce its chances of being compromised. If at any time I wish to revert back to the original state I can either in dos or from the mindows cd ren windows to delete then ren zindows windows, unraring if needs be and i am back where i wanted to be within seconds without having to search for added files or remove an application i am not happy with. Securing your important data with pgp and i think you are good to go

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 09:32 AM

Extra security
http://www.wildersse...ad.php?p=955924
check it out

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Posted 19 June 2007 - 06:44 PM

I'm trying to get this program to run but don't understand it
http://www.schooner....loverso/no-ads/

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Posted 30 June 2007 - 11:46 PM

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 02:30 AM

to Oscardog:
i have several system backups - that is not a problem. Real problem is if i shall be unable to reach some valuable data in short time even if the system is not repaired yet. If the problem is hard to detect the most quick way how to reach them is to use DOS with set of apps able to copy and view them and eventuallty send them throught internet.

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 05:57 PM

View PostOffler, on Jul 2 2007, 09:30 AM, said:

to Oscardog:
i have several system backups - that is not a problem. Real problem is if i shall be unable to reach some valuable data in short time even if the system is not repaired yet. If the problem is hard to detect the most quick way how to reach them is to use DOS with set of apps able to copy and view them and eventuallty send them throught internet.

My analogy was more pointing to an instant system restore, lfn\internet and driver friendly scenario with a gui, making detection of any problems other than hardware unnecessary.

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 02:10 PM

to oscardog: i shall take a look at it.

Few days ago i met strange behaviour of newer viruses. I clicked to infected link and my system was being attacked by some trojans. In attempt to run themselves the viruses fail to run (program performed illegal operation) :)

Viruses just crashed :)

has someone of you met this behaviour caused by lower compatibility with mainstream systems?

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 04:16 PM

HAHA.... Now even virus programmers stop "supporting" Windows 98.
That M$ is so evil... They want to make Win98 really useless :D

Imagine, Windows that doesn't support viruses :D

This post has been edited by marxo: 12 July 2007 - 04:18 PM


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Posted 13 July 2007 - 01:16 PM

Dos is not so threated by viruses. It is very safe enviromnent nowadays. It seems so that people developing malware are trying to attact winXP systems and Vista systems. Win98 is no longer point of interest so why to make software smart? :)

Yes. Windows 98 is not supporting viruses for newer systems, and therefore it is much safer even without av security installed :)

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 05:24 PM

Well yeah it was about time... Virus developers don't find attacking 98 systems intersting anymore because most of ppl swithed to nts....

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 04:15 PM

My questions , as of today which Free to use Antivirus do support win98se and are still updated ?

Thanks

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 10:53 AM

View Postpat98usb, on Aug 1 2007, 12:15 AM, said:

My questions , as of today which Free to use Antivirus do support win98se and are still updated ?

Thanks

pat98usb


AVG Antivirus from Grisoft is free for personal use, daily updates, hight efficiency and still working in Windows 9x !

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 06:33 PM

avast and antivir still work on 98se i dont use them but i think there still updated, i have avast on my sisters computer so i assume it updates and antivir updated when i last used it

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 01:11 PM

Antivir has stopped Win98 support already. Antivirus definitions will be updated till 31 dec 2007. After that it's over for Win98. Unfortunatly, because it's very good FREE software.

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Posted 14 August 2007 - 06:08 AM

oh well i thought the definitions were too big anyway, theres als clamwin

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