[ripken204]

how do you know if any holes exist for k-melon? unless someone tries to hack it, i really dont see how anyone would find a hole?

[no1none]

ripken204, on May 21 2007, 03:39 PM, said:

how do you know if any holes exist for k-melon? unless someone tries to hack it, i really dont see how anyone would find a hole?

First of all, if a 'common hole' is found in one of the browsers (i.e. old JPEG vulnerability) it is immediately tried and tested on other browsers too.
I'm sure many of the 100+ holes in IE5/6 are probably "IE's proprietary holes" (specific to IE only), but if you check details on sites like secunia.com you'll find that some of the 'holes' are quite universal.

PS
I don't say there are no holes in K-Meleon at all... I'm pretty sure there must be a few
After all, no software is 100% bulletproof - with the exception of a computer NOT connected to anything (and without any input/output ports, and locked in safe so no one could touch it... )
All I'm saying is that NO ONE HAS FOUND ANY HOLE IN K-MELEON YET. (or at least general public don't know of such event).
And you can be sure that the hundreds of known holes (found in other browsers) were all tried to be used against K-Meleon too - with no success

This post has been edited by no1none: 21 May 2007 - 11:18 PM

[ripken204]

well my point is that its just like OS X. such a small % of ppl use it that it is pointless to try to hack it.

[no1none]

ripken204, on May 22 2007, 10:41 AM, said:

well my point is that its just like OS X. such a small % of ppl use it that it is pointless to try to hack it.

Yes exactly like with OS X, its this implied added security due to its small amount of users, that obviously no serious fcukheadhacker would waste his time to work on it, specially that i.e. IE6 (the most popular browser ATM) is like a swiss cheese and its users are basically sitting ducks waiting in the open and begging to be rooted

I'm not sure have I understood you correctly... I hope you don't hold it against K-Meleon?

This post has been edited by no1none: 23 May 2007 - 05:38 PM

[ripken204]

no1none, on May 23 2007, 07:36 PM, said:

ripken204, on May 22 2007, 10:41 AM, said:

well my point is that its just like OS X. such a small % of ppl use it that it is pointless to try to hack it.

Yes exactly like with OS X, its this implied added security due to its small amount of users, that obviously no serious fcukheadhacker would waste his time to work on it, specially that i.e. IE6 (the most popular browser ATM) is like a swiss cheese and its users are basically sitting ducks waiting in the open and begging to be rooted

I'm not sure have I understood you correctly... I hope you don't hold it against K-Meleon?

no i agree with you. k-melon has a huge advantage of beign know by few, no one will want to hack it which will make you much much safer.

[dirtwarrior]

Has anyone used swift? It looks interesting but I done know how to install it. No exe. HUH

[ripken204]

dirtwarrior, on May 25 2007, 12:05 PM, said:

Has anyone used swift? It looks interesting but I done know how to install it. No exe. HUH

it does look interesting, very interesting...

[WereBo]

My favourite browser is Mozilla's 'SeaMonkey', the next generation of Netscape Navigator. It has email, FTP, browsing and web-page composer, all-in-one suite.

The browser has tabbed windows and can use most of the Mozilla plug-ins.

[ripken204]

lol, im up to 39 tabs open!! almost 190mb. sould i make it 40 tabs? well i just did
im writing up a large report so about 30 of the tabs is for that reason..

[WereBo]

ripken204, on May 27 2007, 10:21 PM, said:

lol, im up to 39 tabs open!! almost 190mb. sould i make it 40 tabs? well i just did
im writing up a large report so about 30 of the tabs is for that reason..

39 tabs???? Does your monitor bulge at the sides???



Sheeesh!!! I rarely get above 6 - 8 on a busy day, but that's mostly forums and several google hits sites for what I'm doing in them

[no1none]

ripken204, on May 27 2007, 03:21 PM, said:

lol, im up to 39 tabs open!! almost 190mb. sould i make it 40 tabs? well i just did
im writing up a large report so about 30 of the tabs is for that reason..

Well, live'n'learn... until I read your post I never tried that And I never knew K-Meleon don't go above 32 tabs and then overwrites the last one, I guess I never noticed that before LOL
However, another surprise I just learned too it doesn't use any more memory than what it loaded once started, hmm...
My memory load was 45% and after 32 tabs opened (about half of them youtube bookmarks from my group) it is still 45%
Good lizard, hehe

screencap:

This post has been edited by no1none: 27 May 2007 - 05:22 PM

[LeveL]

You bunch of lamers whoever it is voting for Firefox.

You know Opera is better... you know it.

Need proof?

Firefox is better than Opera = 2,840 results.

Opera is better than Firefox = 3,450 results.

Split into percentages this means 45% say Firefox is better
than Opera and 55% say Opera is better than Firefox.

Firefox sucks = 18,500 results

Opera sucks = 562 results

Wow, thats almost 33 times more people say Firefox sucks than say Opera sucks!

Don't bother to argue with me, I will only refer you to the above figures.

In fact there needs to be a "Suck It" site like Digg where the most inane trash gets to #1.

If I knew how to design it I would be developing it myself.

This post has been edited by LeveL: 27 May 2007 - 06:22 PM

[dcyphure]

LeveL, on May 27 2007, 07:13 PM, said:

You bunch of lamers whoever it is voting for Firefox.

You know Opera is better... you know it.

Need proof?

thats purely a matter of preference, not science. those sites only prove that those who voted said that their opinion of it sucked, meaning either it wasnt for them for various reasons or a few people likes to hit the suck button over and over again.

i used to like opera over firefox till i played with its settings and made it how i wanted, i chose it over opera cause i liked how easy the addons were and i liked the type of addons available, so there ya go, just one reason to explain 1 persons preference, everyone has their own and which one is more popular doesnt change anything since they all browse the same internet.

[no1none]

LeveL, on May 27 2007, 06:13 PM, said:

You bunch of lamers whoever it is voting for Firefox.

You know Opera is better... you know it.

Need proof?

Firefox is better than Opera = 2,840 results.

Opera is better than Firefox = 3,450 results.

Split into percentages this means 45% say Firefox is better
than Opera and 55% say Opera is better than Firefox.

Firefox sucks = 18,500 results

Opera sucks = 562 results

Wow, thats almost 33 times more people say Firefox sucks than say Opera sucks!

Don't bother to argue with me, I will only refer you to the above figures.

In fact there needs to be a "Suck It" site like Digg where the most inane trash gets to #1.

If I knew how to design it I would be developing it myself.

No offence, but IMHO someone who can't even make a website is in no position to judge or compare any software
ALl you can tell is that the 'skin' or layout of non-adjustable bars/buttons is more preferable to your liking in Opera than in Firefox, thats probably all...

[LeveL]

dcyphure, on May 28 2007, 01:31 AM, said:

i used to like opera over firefox till i played with its settings and made it how i wanted, i chose it over opera cause i liked how easy the addons were and i liked the type of addons available, so there ya go, just one reason to explain 1 persons preference, everyone has their own and which one is more popular doesnt change anything since they all browse the same internet.

I get where you're coming from, but those extensions for Firefox are incredibly annoying
in that the catalog of extensions is not organized into extensions that work on Firefox v2
and Firefox v1.5. Half the extensions give errors saying it "only works on v0.9 to v1.0"
and with the project being open source, no one gives two hoots about this or ever sorts
out that catalog of (more than 20,000) extensions. I bet not even 10,000 of them actually
work on v2.0.0.3 of Firefox.

With Opera, it just works straight away from one single small exe setup file. You don't even
need to bother with extensions, but you could, Opera has extensions, they are called "widgets".

no1none, on May 28 2007, 01:36 AM, said:

LeveL, on May 27 2007, 06:13 PM, said:

Don't bother to argue with me, I will only refer you to the above figures.

In fact there needs to be a "Suck It" site like Digg where the most inane trash gets to #1.

If I knew how to design it I would be developing it myself.

No offence, but IMHO someone who can't even make a website is in no position to judge or compare any software

I can make a website, but not one where people would vote, with a ratings system
and all the other server side stuff this type of website would entail.

Anyway, even if I couldn't make a website, why does the lack of that knowledge tie
into the knowledge of web browsers and my experiences with them? I know at least
one programmer who knows nothing about the internet, he is still a programmer.

no1none, on May 28 2007, 01:36 AM, said:

ALl you can tell is that the 'skin' or layout of non-adjustable bars/buttons is more preferable to your liking in Opera than in Firefox, thats probably all...

See above about extensions.

I never change the skin on any browser or program I use, it might as well not even
have the functionality for all I care. Its web pages I am looking at, not the frame of
my web browser.

This post has been edited by LeveL: 27 May 2007 - 07:58 PM

[dcyphure]

LeveL, on May 27 2007, 08:52 PM, said:

I get where you're coming from, but those extensions for Firefox are incredibly annoying
in that the catalog of extensions is not organized into extensions that work on Firefox v2
and Firefox v1.5. Half the extensions give errors saying it "only works on v0.9 to v1.0"
and with the project being open source, no one gives two hoots about this or ever sorts
out that catalog of (more than 20,000) extensions. I bet not even 10,000 of them actually
work on v2.0.0.3 of Firefox.

With Opera, it just works straight away from one single small exe setup file. You don't even
need to bother with extensions, but you could, Opera has extensions, they are called "widgets".

i think theres 2,070 extensions, havnt encountered the problem of compatability as i browse through recent and popular ones, but i remember using widgets in opera, had quite a few and they were fine, but if i recall right it didnt feel embedded with the browser but rather a seperate app thing you had to click on, where the extension works or is there within the browser. like i have weatherbug, its displayed on bottom of browser, download em all is a single icon on my search bar, tab effects is another constant but again i cant recall how all the widgets worked but i think i had to always click on it to turn it on, i also really like firefox's bookmark toolbar and the remove permantly extension where i can right click on any object on a site and never have to view it again...great for forums and sites i visit alot so i can block all ads and any worthless text or object, makes sites easier to view.

again its just a preference, you prefer a default out of box setup set to your liking or you prefer widgets its all good, it takes me a while to set firefox how i like it after a fresh install where in opera i didnt as much, but i think both are very good and fast

i also used to like advent alot too, mainly its default setup but i found all the things from other browsers in firefox too, i just have to work at it to set it up, till i realized that i used to hate firefox

[prx984]

LeveL, on May 27 2007, 09:52 PM, said:

I get where you're coming from, but those extensions for Firefox are incredibly annoying
in that the catalog of extensions is not organized into extensions that work on Firefox v2
and Firefox v1.5. Half the extensions give errors saying it "only works on v0.9 to v1.0"
and with the project being open source, no one gives two hoots about this or ever sorts
out that catalog of (more than 20,000) extensions. I bet not even 10,000 of them actually
work on v2.0.0.3 of Firefox.

With Opera, it just works straight away from one single small exe setup file. You don't even
need to bother with extensions, but you could, Opera has extensions, they are called "widgets".

I'll admit that at first, the Firefox extensions were bad for this, but they have gotten a hell of a lot better.

Perhaps you should try a more up to date version of Firefox

I like Firefox, but I still like to use IE7 the most out of all the browsers.

[bledd]

the sheer awesomeness of the extensions available for firefox makes it the only choice for me, if i didn't have firefox, i'd be using opera, ie is still terrible

This post has been edited by bledd: 28 May 2007 - 05:12 AM