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Tihiy

NVidia drivers 82.69

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As I suggested you may try to reflash BIOS from similar 256MB 8800 model. It should be always possible to flash it back with another PCI card inserted in PC.
I'd really like to find a solution without downgrading the card. Anyway, I would still do it if I only had the 8800. However, I still have the 6200 on my AGP port for 98 to use. Besides, 512mb are useful nowadays (well, Call of Duty 4 seems to like it ;) ). I might do it a bit later just to try though.

Thanks for the link and good luck with the 7900! Keep us informed. :)

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512 MB VRAM:

I think you are wasting time with this issue, trying to downgrade cards/flashing bios, etc.. because, as you can see in my previuos posts in this thread, particularly the n.156, I made my 512MB 6800 vga work with '98, but only on one motherboard out of three I tried.

To sum, I tried on :

- Asus P4B-533 (Intel ?815? chipset) with AGP 4X ----> OK, also with games (a few)

- Asus P4P-800-X (Intel 865) with AGP 8X -----> hangs at boot

- Biostar OEM (Via chipset with integrated graphic) and AGP 8x -----> hangs, but this kind of MoBo gave always problems with spare cards, even with an old 6600 128MB, that is officially supported by nvidia drivers.

So it IS possible to make 512MB cards work on W'98 without limiting RAM; in my opinion everything is up to the MoBo/chipset. Excluding the Via chipsets that are (in)famous for agp problems, in my experience it worked with an agp 4x while not with the 8x. I don't know if this is the key, but I hope someone of you can find a solution, 'cause I'm stuck like you and I'm looking for another 6800 (non-GS->officially supported) to exchange with mine.

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You have saved my Windows 98 SE computer. :whistle:

Thank you very much!

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You have saved my Windows 98 SE computer. :whistle:

Thank you very much!

Glad to hear it!

Could you perhaps tell us how we saved your computer?

What model nVidia card do you have?

Thanks.

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It is an Nvidia 5500 card. Your link gave me the possibility of using it for Win 98 because there are not drivers for this OS on the drivers disk supplied by the manufacturer with the spare parts.

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I'm using a nVidia FX 5500 with these drivers. They work well.

They also support widescreen modes that the official drivers do only partially.

The official nVidia 81.98 drivers for Windows 9x do actually support the FX 5500, but these 82.69 drivers work faster!

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>Has anyone seen this problem with the 7600 GS AGP in 9x with 82.69 drivers?

I've ALSO got a Gigabyte 7600 GS 256MB AGP passive cooled card, pen4 3Ghz, P4P800SE ASUS mother, Intel ICH5R, 2GB DDR, two win98SE and WIN98SE foreign version were installed 2 years ago and used the 5700NV until 7600GS recently. both 98SE's currently run under the condition of

[vcache]

maxfilecache=524288

in system.ini due to 2GB RAM installation.

what's happened to mine is

A. 82.69's setup.exe reports "can't find the nvidia chips....."

B. I tried the direct import of NVAGP.INF, 82.69 finished its installation, but upon rebooting for restarting, the two different cases of win98SE freezeed always.... so i put back win98se from its image, and tried other possibilities.

C. I tried all the possibilities from readme.txt but it didn't work so far.

I only used internet with win98SE, and never with XP previously. but now, with the standard VGA or super VGA mode for 7600gs, my modem doesn't work at all.

any help?

i will freshly install win98se to see if 82.69'd work someday, but my guts telling me it won't

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retroOS Thanks for your reply,

I got it working, the culprit was the 2G of RAM that was installed, I took 1G of RAM out (which is a bad new for dual booting XP, i'd rather keep win98).

the below statement or its variation makes me install 2G RAM to get win98SE to work but that was just about it

[386Enh]

MaxPhysPage=40000

[vcache]

minfilecache=32768

maxfilecache=262144

chunksize=8192

I wasn't able to launch most applications before showing "low memory status"and using MS-DOS was out of question.

the maker of 82.69, I thank you for your hard work.

since when i tipped across the internet with firewall, and virus shield. my modem works now with the great visual aid of 82.69. Win98 backuped by its own image is unstoppable in internet.

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I just got Asus EN7900GT/2DHT/256MB DDR3 PCI-Express in my hands and I can confirm that it works with 82.69 drivers well. I tried few games I usually try - GLQuake, QuakeII and Unreal tournament - any problem observed. Compared to 7600GS it gives much more power (better fillrate) to this older games, eg. Quake II gained ~800 FPS from ~200 FPS :P Of course in Crysis it is not so much but still well significant.

BTW it would be good idea to sum all tested graphics cards in 1st post or some place together.

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Very good!!! :thumbup

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Hi,

My computer user Windows 98SE and has a Nvidia GeForce Fx 5200 graphics card.

However, even when using the 82.69 drivers (since 81.98), this problem occurs:

-The monitor gets turned off by the computer when there was inactivity for about 5 mins

-When I try to wake the computer, the monitor turns back on, but Windows 98SE hangs with a patterned green line across the top of the screen (Vertical green stripes, about 0.5cm in height, across the extreme top of the screen).

Is this a bug in the Nvidia driver, or can it be a sign of impending mainboard failure? Using the on-board i815 graphics adapter does not show this problem, and seems that this problem only occurs on Win9x (WinXP is fine). The graphics card is not the issue as this problem also occurs even when using another Geforce Fx 5200.

I solved this problem temporarly by disabling "Turn off minitor" under power options, but that just wastes energy. Anyone else had this problem?

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New drivers don't bring any extra performance on the FX5200, just use the older ones.

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-The monitor gets turned off by the computer when there was inactivity for about 5 mins

-When I try to wake the computer, the monitor turns back on, but Windows 98SE hangs with a patterned green line across the top of the screen (Vertical green stripes, about 0.5cm in height, across the extreme top of the screen).

...

I solved this problem temporarly by disabling "Turn off minitor" under power options, but that just wastes energy. Anyone else had this problem?

I've had the turn off monitor hang issue for years in 98SE on different PCs.

I've also been using nVidia graphics cards for years too... (with many versions of drivers)

I can't use the turn off monitor option. I just switch off the monitor when I'm not using the computer...

Annoying, but saves power!

I never found a working solution to the problem.

BTW, I found the 82.69 drivers to be faster with nVidia FX cards than the 81.98 drivers...

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Thanks for the info anyway. Good job on the 82.69 drivers though. Anyway, is it possible to rip the driver out of a newer Nvidia display driver package for XP and use it on Win98? (Win98 does support WDM)

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The support of pci-express is full?

What you mean by "full support"? PCI-E devices are controlled the same way as normal PCI

devices, you just have more virtual PCI busses resources.

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Is there any new version of unofficial drivers for nVidia?

I need driver for 9800GTX.

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Is there any new version of unofficial drivers for nVidia?

I need driver for 9800GTX.

Nope but let's try! Get the pci_id of your card (using "System info" or any other similar tool). We'll then tell you how to add your card to the *.inf file.
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Nope but let's try! Get the pci_id of your card (using "System info" or any other similar tool). We'll then tell you how to add your card to the *.inf file.

Only adding the PCI DID, VID to INF file will 99% not help. 9xxx cards are based on newer GPU core. It's the same case when I was trying to run 7300GT with latest official drivers 81.?? with added INF entry. Drivers was installed OK then but buuted to VGA screen. I had to wait for unofficial 82.69. Nobody still proved if they work on 8xxx so I doubt it will work on 9xxx. As a last resort try universal VBEMP drivers by Bear Windows. It works fine if VESA BIOS is not crippled but it hasnt any kind of 2D/3D acceleration.

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Only adding the PCI DID, VID to INF file will 99% not help. 9xxx cards are based on newer GPU core. It's the same case when I was trying to run 7300GT with latest official drivers 81.?? with added INF entry. Drivers was installed OK then but buuted to VGA screen. I had to wait for unofficial 82.69. Nobody still proved if they work on 8xxx so I doubt it will work on 9xxx. As a last resort try universal VBEMP drivers by Bear Windows. It works fine if VESA BIOS is not crippled but it hasnt any kind of 2D/3D acceleration.
Well, we won't know for sure until we try!
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know for sure until we try!

Sure, but I just give a warning to prevent the disapointment.

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7600 GS AGP... This seems to be the problem card in 9x...

I've got a Gigabyte 7600 GS 256MB AGP passive cooled card. On my test PC, it runs properly in XP.

But... 98SE on the same PC with 82.69 drivers, has missing triangles in DirectX games. Also some triangles have one point that is away in the wrong place - really weird effect!

(I even tried 81.98 and 82.16 drivers with 82.69 INFs... - just crashes at video driver initialisation...)

It does not seem to be random since I can navigate around this 'distorted' world!

I've tested a number of games with the same result.

98SE is up to date with Auto-Patcher 98.

Oddly, OpenGL games are okay!!!

I will try another clean install of 98SE to confirm.

Has anyone seen this problem with the 7600 GS AGP in 9x with 82.69 drivers?

Problem solved!

I was using a 350W PSU before...

I've installed a 430W PSU with 18A on the 12V rail...

All seems to work now with the 7600 GS 256MB and 82.69 drivers.

Looks like this card is a power sucker!

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Problem solved!

I was using a 350W PSU before...

I've installed a 430W PSU with 18A on the 12V rail...

All seems to work now with the 7600 GS 256MB and 82.69 drivers.

Looks like this card is a power sucker!

I don't think this card is power sucker. Maybe your old PSU has some problem/bad design. I used it with Fortron 350W PSU without any problem. As I saw in some comparison chart this card takes only ~20W idle, 48W peak. It can work with passive heatsink. Now I have 7900GT with ~80W peak power and it also work with same 350W PSU. I measured 140W real RMS power consumption of my PC in 100% CPU load and without GFX load so there's still some reserved PSU power for GPU and other components.

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I have a PC with a K7S5A motherboard that uses the SiS 735 chipset. The motherboard has an AGP port that has a Leadtek WinFast A7300GT TDH AGP 256MB DDR2 NVIDIA video card installed. The card is connected to a KDS Visual Sensations VS-190i monitor. The PC is currently setup with a multi OS boot where it can boot into Windows 98SE, Windows XP Pro, Mepis Linux 7.0, or PCLinuxOS 2007. The video card is installed and works properly in Windows XP Pro, and it is also installed and is working properly in both Linux systems using the NVIDIA proprietary video drivers. I've tried the Tweaked Unofficial NVIDIA Display Driver 82.69 for Windows 98/98 SE/ME, but after the driver is installed the Windows 98SE system freezes at reboot. Under both Windows 98SE and Windows XP Pro the NVIDIA driver installer cannot detect the Leadtek video card. The card required a manual driver install in Windows XP Pro, even though I was using the driver software that came with the card. When installing the Tweaked driver in Windows 98SE it was also necessary to perform a manual driver install. In the manual install in Windows 98SE the card is detected as a 7300GT, and it shows up in the Device Manager as a 7300GT after installation.

I have tried the other drivers that are mentioned in this thread and get the same results of Windows 98SE freezing at reboot. Driver Cleaner Pro 1.5 is installed. I have tried installing the drivers after using Driver Cleaner Pro and rebooting, but Windows 98SE never reboots properly after installing the modded drivers.

I saw one posting where it was mentioned that the NVIDIA driver installs a generic Intel AGP GART driver and that the actual chipset driver needs to be reinstalled. I have the SiS AGP driver for the motherboard. Would it be necessary to reinstall the chipset AGP driver after installing the modded driver, before rebooting the PC to complete the NVIDIA driver installation?

Any information will be appreciated.

Followup:

I was trying some further installation attempts and some of them resulted in the PC performing a reboot during the bootup of Windows 98SE. Some other ones would not boot properly, then on the next boot would bring up the 16 color VGA screen. In the Device Manager the Nvidia GeForce 7300GT driver had an exclamation point with an error message that there was a problem with loading the driver and that it was disabled and that Windows would never try to load the driver again.

I would like to try to get this card running if someone can suggest what steps I can follow to troubleshoot the modded driver/and/or the motherboard AGP port driver.

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