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3/ The machine will not shut down properly. It simply hangs part way through. I work around this by doing a Restart instead of a shutdown, which takes me to my Linux GRUB bootloader. I can shutdown from there successfully.


Yes, I had similar idea doing it via condition in autoexec.bat (if you have me then you don't have autoexec). How you are doing the shutdown via GRUB? Does it have this option inside or you run DOS and shutdown program? But the best thing would be do shutdown _just_ befre windows exec instruction causing reset... I try to do it but i don't have detail win arch knowledges about shutdown/reboot process.

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Hi xrayer, my shutdown is very low tech. I tell Win ME to restart. The machine does a restart just fine. That activates GRUB in the boot sector and it presents its usual boot menu selection (in my case, Win ME or Linux). At that point, if you press "c" on the keyboard (for "command") GRUB drops to its command prompt. From there, you can issue GRUB's "halt" command. This doesn't shut down per se, but it does halt the machine and then the front panel power button turns it off gracefully.

If I wanted to go one step further, I could have GRUB boot the Linux distro to its login manager. There is a real Shutdown command there that truly turns off the machine, but I don't have the patience to wait another 30s or so for Linux to boot just so I can shut down. GRUB's halt does just fine!

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>From there, you can issue GRUB's "halt" command. This doesn't shut down per se, but it does halt the machine and then the front panel power button >turns it off gracefully.

Aha, but you need to press power button still manually. So why to wait for booting grub? Just press power after computer restarts. I need fully automatical shutdown when I'm sleeping or I'm away.

>If I wanted to go one step further, I could have GRUB boot the Linux distro to its login manager. There is a real Shutdown command there that truly turns >off the machine, but I don't have the patience to wait another 30s or so for Linux to boot just so I can shut down. GRUB's halt does just fine!

You don't need to boot linux, you can shutdown by small tools from dos. DOS itself boot up in one second :)

But the reason why I'm still not satisfied is that when it reboots it beeps during POST and optical drives make some noise. I woul like to reach silent shutdown - need to be done just after reboot.
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BTW Are there some unofficial drivers for modern nVidia cards for NT4.0 SP6 like for Win9x?
With latest official forceware 77.78 my GF7600 boots in VGA mode only. I tried to force install
winxp drivers 94.xx but it failed to boot due to missing function kernel call, so drivers really are not compatible.
The last I tried wa installing universal VESA VBE 3.0 driver which works in higher resolution and true colors
but it's very slow and due to crippled vnidia VBE 3.0 implementation it cannot setup higher refresh rate than 60Hz
which is a big issue on CRT...
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>From there, you can issue GRUB's "halt" command. This doesn't shut down per se, but it does halt the machine and then the front panel power button >turns it off gracefully.

Aha, but you need to press power button still manually. So why to wait for booting grub? Just press power after computer restarts. I need fully automatical shutdown when I'm sleeping or I'm away.


grub is the boot manager, you don't have to boot grub... 'halt' is available on grub commandline, but can also be inserted into the boot menu (make it default with timeout, to shutdown automatically).

On every recent machine I know, grub's 'halt' shuts down the machine completely. Only on very old machines without APM, halt won't work.

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Yes, and there is a "halt with APM" item that I have been meaning to try, to see if it will shut down completely. Hopefully it will.

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but can also be inserted into the boot menu (make it default with timeout, to shutdown automatically).


Could you post an example of the GRUB entry for menu.lst that would cause the halt? Thanks.

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Have we confirmed this driver works for 8800 cards?

If so, does that make the 8800 the fastest available graphics card for Windows 98?

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:unsure: Anyone out there tried the 82.69 drivers with a 8800 series?
:blink: Anyone?
:wacko: One?
..

Okay,
So far the following post-81.98 nVidia GPUs (>6800) have been reported to work:

GeForce 7300GT PCIe
GeForce 7600GS PCIe
GeForce 7600GT AGP
GeForce 7600GT PCIe
GeForce 7800GS AGP

and...

That's all folks!

Has anyone else got another 7 or 8 series nVidia GPU working with 82.69?

* PCIe support depends on chipset manufacture driver support and availibility for Windows 98SE

EDIT: Added some more reported cards! :)

Edited by RetroOS, 06 December 2007 - 03:21 AM.

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:unsure: Anyone out there tried the 82.69 drivers with a 8800 series?
:blink: Anyone?
:wacko: One?


Hehe,
I sometimes had put my fingers into fire (or s***?) when bought new hardware with unknown compatability :D
So I learned to be patient and take a wisdoms from others failures. I'd like to bought GF8600 but I find anybody
who has tested 8xxx card. I only knew about 7300 so I hoped 7600 would be very similar and luckily it works.
So go ahead, thrash your money for 8800 and tell us :thumbup
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:unsure: Anyone out there tried the 82.69 drivers with a 8800 series?
:blink: Anyone?
:wacko: One?


I only knew about 7300 so I hoped 7600 would be very similar and luckily it works.

Did it install using 82.69 without you having to change the inf file? Any issues with this driver and the 7600?

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Did it install using 82.69 without you having to change the inf file? Any issues with this driver and the 7600?
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I used this version of 82.69 drivers from ZakMcKracken84:
http://windows98.ic....ga/fw9x8269.rar
and don't need to modify inf file.
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If anyone has anymore updated win9x drivers , please post them. Because the 82.69 installs fine, but 2 problems arose.

Impossible to play videos, freezes my computer when trying to play videos, picture doesnt show. This same problem comes up with other drivers as well. Only driver that plays video perfectly with this card is the 81.68.

Also, on my card which is the BFG Geforce 6200 OC 256MB PCI card, i have a temp check in the control panel, when installing the beta 82.69 drivers, the temp check isn't there

So really the best drivers for win9x geforce is the 81.68. But if someone has more drivers, please post them so we can test them, thanks :)

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it might have something to do with having a 6200 pci, though i have a 4mx420 pci and that works fine

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Yea i heard this card only supports one driver which is the 81.98. Good card believe me, but it has driver problems, but the 81.98 gets the job done :)

Thanks anyway , but as i said if anyone can update more drivers for win9x, please do so. I would love to try out some more :)

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It's not a matter of having newer drivers...
nVidia have the source code and they have ceased releasing new drivers for 9x.
(Just imagine if they released the 9x source code to the public domain... As if...)
81.98 was the last official release.
The 82.69 drivers were a leaked beta release that nVidia never released officially.
They are the very last 9x drivers ever to be seen from nVidia...
Contributors have made some Installer and INF customisations, but the driver files remain as they were 'leaked' from nVidia.

That's all folks!

I will however say that I have not had a single problem, only improvements, using 82.69 and a nVidia GeForce FX5200 AGP card.
Having said that, YMMV depending of the model of card...
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What about with ATI, did someone make a update for win9x dealing with ATI?

The last ati driver is 6.2

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What about with ATI, did someone make a update for win9x dealing with ATI?

The last ati driver is 6.2

I am not aware of any newer 9x drivers for ATI cards.
Radeon 9800 series is the last that works with 6.2.
So... nVidia cards are a better option for 9x since the 82.69 unofficial customised drivers support up to series 7 and probably series 8 cards.
Still no reports of GeForce 8000 results with 82.69...
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Well those 82.69 would be nice if there was a updated PCI 7 or 8 series card. I think the last PCI card is the card which i own now, which is the Geforce 6200 OC 256MB PCI....... Unless i am able to find the Sparkle 7800 GT or 8500 GT which are like impossible to find for PCI online and offline.

I am happy with the Geforce 6200 tho. :)

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I have a pretty old videocard: MSI GeForce4 Ti4200 VTD8X 128MB (advertised as AGP8x although some tools show it as only working at 4x maximum), with BIOS: 4.28.20.05.11. Currently I am using the latest available driver for this card type from MSI, which is 45.32, on an AGP 2x mobo Soyo SY-6VCM 133. All other later generic drivers from nVidia that I've tried, would just kill Direct3D - tests in DirectX would all fail for Direct3D and obviously applications using Direct3D would fail too.

I have also tried the above drivers and the behavior is just the same. I wonder, would there be anything to do in this case? Any mod of a later driver possible?

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Radeon 9800 series is the last that works with 6.2.

The last cards that works officially with Catalyst 6.2 are Radeon X850 series. :hello:
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Btw, I forgot to add, the last driver is not 81.69, its actually 82.16, which i am using now. It shipped with my BFG Geforce 6200 Card. If anyone wants the file, let me know and i will RAR or zip it up for you!

Edited by u2kforever, 26 February 2008 - 02:08 PM.


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Radeon 9800 series is the last that works with 6.2.

The last cards that works officially with Catalyst 6.2 are Radeon X850 series. :hello:

Hi Xeno86, you are of course correct!
Catalyst 6.2 drivers fully supported up to Radeon 9800 but also added Beta support for Radeon X300, X550, X600, X800, and X850.
I have not had any reports of anyone actually using 9x with a Radeon X-series card...
That brings me to the next point: If 6.2 drivers have support, however good or not, for Radeon X-series, then could the Installer/INFs be adapted to test with Radeon X1000 series cards?

Btw, I forgot to add, the last driver is not 81.69, its actually 82.16, which i am using now. It shipped with my BFG Geforce 6200 Card. If anyone wants the file, let me know and i will RAR or zip it up for you!

I knew of a 82.12 nVidia driver released for Windows XP, but not the 82.16 9x ones!
That would explain the 10 month gap between 81.98 last officially posted drivers and the leaked beta release of 82.69.
It looks like 82.16 9x drivers were never posted, only released to OEMs...
It's interesting to note, that by September 2006 when the 82.69 9x drivers were built, that the last 91 series (91.47) driver for Windows 2000/XP were released just before the 92 series came out...
It's like nVidia took the last source code they had for 9x, built the drivers, and 'leaked' the files...
Or maybe they were a final request from a video card manufacturer...
If someone actually has 82.69 9x drivers on a drivers CD with a video card, then the last point would be proven.

It would be good to compare the 82.16 and 82.69 drivers and also to give 82.16 as another option for some cards that might have problems with 82.69...
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Here's the official BFG 82.16 driver pack download:
http://www.bfgtech.c...x(82_16)int.zip
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