[MDGx]

Tihiy, on May 2 2007, 01:01 AM, said:

It has been reported that this driver *works* on some PCI Express GeForce [7600 GS] video adapters!

Which 1 did you mean, the original:
http://www.nvworld.r...d/WideWin9x.rar
or the modded one:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/NV8269.EXE
or both, reported to work with PCI-X adapters?

BTW:
I've already added all available hardware IDs into the INF, including the PCI-X ones. The INF has all NVidia IDs up to the newest 7xxx series.
If it helps, I can also add the 8xxx series IDs.
Do you think I should?

[Analada]

Analada, on May 1 2007, 05:06 AM, said:

XFX 6200 graphics card with 512MB video RAM; 98SE2ME + most other upgrades:

With one proviso (last sentence below) it works fine @ 1024 x 768; 32 bit; 85 Hz on my 17 inch monitor (CRT).

As with previous 81.98 driver, am unable to get greater than 85 Hz, though when I boot (dual boot) to XP can get stable 100 HZ. Had hoped that this version would likewise give 100 Hz for win98SE.

Unfortunately I cannot get large font (Advanced tab) with 82.69. I could with 81.98. I can set large font but on reboot it still shows small font.

Just to add, that for me at any rate (with 6200) the previous 81.98 driver is better, for the reason given. Have reverted to it.

[xtrm]

I don't understand all your resolution and refresh rate problems. You install the card driver, you install the screen driver, that's it. I can choose all resolutions that are working with my 17" CRT (syncmaster 797mb), up to 2048x1536 and all refresh modes like 60, 70, 72, 75, 85, 100, and if I go down with the resolution (I use 1024x768) I can get 120 or 140 too.

[Analada]

xtrm, on May 2 2007, 12:59 PM, said:

I don't understand all your resolution and refresh rate problems. You install the card driver, you install the screen driver, that's it. I can choose all resolutions that are working with my 17" CRT (syncmaster 797mb), up to 2048x1536 and all refresh modes like 60, 70, 72, 75, 85, 100, and if I go down with the resolution (I use 1024x768) I can get 120 or 140 too.

I don't understand it either ;-) But it exists as a fact. Maybe it's graphics card (manufacture) related. This card is XFX6200.

[MDGx]

xtrm, on May 2 2007, 12:59 PM, said:

I don't understand all your resolution and refresh rate problems. You install the card driver, you install the screen driver, that's it. I can choose all resolutions that are working with my 17" CRT (syncmaster 797mb), up to 2048x1536 and all refresh modes like 60, 70, 72, 75, 85, 100, and if I go down with the resolution (I use 1024x768) I can get 120 or 140 too.

Be careful to *never* select/use frequencies that were not on the list of your particular monitor (CRT) for a specific resolution.
If you do, your monitor may just die.
More info:
http://www.mdgx.com/newtip23.htm#OVRR

HTH

[glocK_94]

Tihiy, on May 2 2007, 08:01 AM, said:

It has been reported that this driver *works* on some PCI Express GeForce [7600 GS] video adapters!

Man, I wish I had a nice little 7950gt to test this out !
Thanks for those babies!

By the way, about widescreen support... I have quite a few questions. Can those drivers diplay the desktop with a wide (but not stretched) resolution?
Or do the screen drivers take care of that too?

[xtrm]

MDGx, on May 3 2007, 04:38 PM, said:

xtrm, on May 2 2007, 12:59 PM, said:

I don't understand all your resolution and refresh rate problems. You install the card driver, you install the screen driver, that's it. I can choose all resolutions that are working with my 17" CRT (syncmaster 797mb), up to 2048x1536 and all refresh modes like 60, 70, 72, 75, 85, 100, and if I go down with the resolution (I use 1024x768) I can get 120 or 140 too.

Be careful to *never* select/use frequencies that were not on the list of your particular monitor (CRT) for a specific resolution.
If you do, your monitor may just die.
More info:
http://www.mdgx.com/newtip23.htm#OVRR

HTH

The sense of installing the drivers of your monitor IS to have only the resolutions listed that work with it. I do not need any advice on that =).

[nicke85]

This modded nVidia driver is great news!
Maybe it mean that all drivers can be modded to work under 98SE.
I really hope that!!!

Is there some modded driver for ATI's cards??

[MDGx]

xtrm, on May 6 2007, 02:15 AM, said:

MDGx, on May 3 2007, 04:38 PM, said:

xtrm, on May 2 2007, 12:59 PM, said:

I don't understand all your resolution and refresh rate problems. You install the card driver, you install the screen driver, that's it. I can choose all resolutions that are working with my 17" CRT (syncmaster 797mb), up to 2048x1536 and all refresh modes like 60, 70, 72, 75, 85, 100, and if I go down with the resolution (I use 1024x768) I can get 120 or 140 too.

Be careful to *never* select/use frequencies that were not on the list of your particular monitor (CRT) for a specific resolution.
If you do, your monitor may just die.
More info:
http://www.mdgx.com/newtip23.htm#OVRR

HTH

The sense of installing the drivers of your monitor IS to have only the resolutions listed that work with it. I do not need any advice on that =).

I have only pointed out to all forum readers [because some may not know; this was not meant specifically for you or anybody else in particular, btw] that it is dangerous to select a vertical refresh frequency not supported by either a monitor [CRT or LCD] or video adapter, because might cause permanent damage to 1 or the other, or even both.
Some LCD monitors have internal protection routines built into their hardware to avoid damage, but most don't, and I don't know of any CRTs that do.

Just by installing the correct monitor driver [usually just an INF file with lists of frequencies which match a list of resolutions] and the manufacturer provided video adapter driver does not protect video hardware from physical damage, because there are video adapter drivers which list unsupported frequencies and/or allow to list such frequencies. Examples: the NVidia Override Refresh Rates tab to use with applications or the list of unsupported refresh rates that can be enabled in WinXP NVidia control panel.
Because such settings are available one way or another, depends mostly on the user's degree of savviness not to play around with unsupported frequencies.

Also, some users [myself included] like to mess around/experiment with INF files/registry settings, and if one doesn't know what they are doing, they can cause hardware damage.

HTH

[xtrm]

I have to say that this refresh rate stuff on all the forceware drivers since...I don't know, the 6x.xx series I believe, does not work with me. It just gives me some error and that's it. And well, my monitors all came with installing CDs and stuff, I have not experienced any problem with that, but I only had samsung screens so far.

[celtish]

Being impetuous as I sometimes am I installed the unofficial nVidia82.69 on my 800x600 AOC just for the hell of it! honestly haven't noticed any difference so far.

[MDGx]

xtrm, on May 8 2007, 12:05 AM, said:

I have to say that this refresh rate stuff on all the forceware drivers since...I don't know, the 6x.xx series I believe, does not work with me. It just gives me some error and that's it. And well, my monitors all came with installing CDs and stuff, I have not experienced any problem with that, but I only had samsung screens so far.

Have you looked on Samsung's web site for updated monitor drivers?
http://www.samsung.com/support/productsupp...load/index.aspx

You could also [if you know your monitor's supported refresh rates] add them manually into your registry.
This may help:
http://www.mdgx.com/newtip23.htm#OVRR

Or you could even write your own INF to add more supported refresh rates for most resolutions, based on older Samsung INF files (if any).
Just make sure to name it something like 1SAMSUNG.INF [or similar = alphabetically comes before any official Samsung INFs you may have, and thus will be detected 1st] and place it in %windir%\INF so Windows Hardware Wizard can detect it.

I've been using a 21" Panasonic PanaSync/Pro P110 CRT for a long time, and never had any problems.

HTH

[xtrm]

I think you don't get what I mean. I just cannot use this manual override (refresh rate fix) that is built into the driver in the panel. As you should know because of my last postings here, I can of course change refresh rates to what I like them to be. I just cannot tell it that if it for some reason would switch into like 800x600, that it should use 100hz then. I would have to change it in the graphics card tab manually. I don't really care, I don't need it anyway.

[MDGx]

This works for me...

If for whatever reason your desktop reverts back to 800x600 60 Hz [default values written by the NVIDIA driver into your registry at install time, considered lowest supported resolution by NVIDIA developers], or even worse, back to 640x480 60 Hz [i.e. default Windows 95 values built into the generic VGA.DRV], and this might happen if driver files become for some reason incompatible, broken or mixed-and-matched, there is a way to force a resolution/frequency pair other than default.
Please see this reg file [keys 0001 and 0002 are mine, yours might be different depending on video driver installations]:

-------snip-------
REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Config\0001]
"Resolution"="1024,768"
"RefreshRate"="100"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Config\0001\Display\Settings]
"Resolution"="1024,768"
"RefreshRate"="100"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0002\DEFAULT]
"Mode"="32,1024,768"
"RefreshRate"="100"

-------snip-------

Save this as a REG file, and merge it back into your registry whenever you need.
Or you could load it unattended in the background from your Startup folder or from the registry "Run" key, if you want it to load with Windows every time.
Example:

regedit /s c:\temp\nv_def.reg

or from within a batch file if you wish:

Quote

@echo off
regedit /s c:\temp\nv_def.reg
cls
exit

HTH

[MDGx]

Everybody,

Please try this one...

Tweaked Unofficial NVIDIA Display Driver 82.69 for Windows 98/98 SE/ME [14.5 MB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/NV8269.EXE
Documentation:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/NV8269.TXT
Modded NVAGP.INF = added support for *all* :
- GeForce, GeForce Go + Quadro 5xxx, 6xxx, 7xxx + 8xxx series.
- GeForce + Quadro PCI, AGP + PCI-x series.
- GeForce 7950 SLI PCI-x series.
- Vertical refresh frequencies + all normal and widescreen resolutions for video driver + CRT/LCD monitors.
- Languages DLL + HLP files from NVIDIA Display Driver 93.71.
- Registry tweaks to allow access to hidden/undocumented options.

FYI:
PCI-x may or may not work, depending on motherboard, chipset, GPU.

Have fun.

[celtish]

MDGx, on May 17 2007, 07:34 PM, said:

Tweaked Unofficial NVIDIA Display Driver 82.69 for Windows 98/98 SE/ME [14.5 MB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/NV8269.EXE

Installed it. There was an error message thrown up (should have made a note of it) but the installer carried on regardless. Machine performance seems to have improved some and the refresh setting has suddenly changed from 60Hz - the minimum - to the maximum of 100Hz. Is this down to the new display driver?

This post has been edited by plonkeroo: 17 May 2007 - 08:47 PM

[Philco]

MDGx, on May 17 2007, 12:34 PM, said:

...
Languages DLL + HLP files from NVIDIA Display Driver 93.71.
...

This DLL with all languages or only english?

[Xavi11]

I've tried this modified drivers on a agp "Asus 7600GS Silent" and it works (manual instalation) all resolutions, and refreshs including all control panel tools but...

There're black pixels or imperfections on the screen (in some menues, windows etc).

(xp2400+,pb abit kw7, 512mb)

[MDGx]

Fixed install error dialog box:

* Tweaked Unofficial NVIDIA Display Driver 82.69 for Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE/ME:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/NV8269.TXT
NV8269.EXE [14.5 MB, multilingual]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/NV8269.EXE

What's new + updated:
- Fixed install error dialog box.
- All 6xxx, 7xxx + 8xxx GeForce + Quadro series supported.
- All PCI, AGP + PCIe [PCI Express] GeForce + Quadro series supported.
- DLLs + HLP files are the NVidia ones used for all supported languages ["borrowed" from Forceware 93.71 for 2000/XP/2003].
- All widescreen resolutions supported = but not all res may display properly, especially on LCDs, some resolutions may display with artifacts on some monitors. Make sure you update to most recent INF file from monitor manufacturer.
- All vertical refresh rate frequencies supported = this applies only to CRT monitors.
LCD/plasma monitors/TVs do not use refresh rates:
http://en.wikipedia....ki/Refresh_rate
- All registry tweaks should work properly.

See text file for complete details:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/NV8269.TXT

Enjoy.
______________________________________

plonkeroo, on May 17 2007, 08:46 PM, said:

MDGx, on May 17 2007, 07:34 PM, said:

Tweaked Unofficial NVIDIA Display Driver 82.69 for Windows 98/98 SE/ME [14.5 MB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/NV8269.EXE

Installed it. There was an error message thrown up (should have made a note of it) but the installer carried on regardless. Machine performance seems to have improved some and the refresh setting has suddenly changed from 60Hz - the minimum - to the maximum of 100Hz. Is this down to the new display driver?

The install error is now corrected.
Please download the driver again [14.5 MB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/NV8269.EXE

This driver supports all vertical refresh frequencies for CRTs, so the driver may reset itself to the highest supported frequency.
DirectX.cpl can reset default vertical refresh frequency to any supported frequency from the DirectDraw tab [147 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/DX9CPL.EXE

Philco, on May 18 2007, 12:24 AM, said:

MDGx, on May 17 2007, 12:34 PM, said:

Languages DLL + HLP files from NVIDIA Display Driver 93.71.

This DLL with all languages or only english?

All DLLs + HLP files are used for all supported languages.
These multilingual DLL + HLP files are the same ones used by NVidia in Forceware 93.71 for 2000/XP/2003.
Details:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/NV8269.TXT

HTH

[celtish]

MDGx, on May 21 2007, 02:01 PM, said:

plonkeroo, on May 17 2007, 08:46 PM, said:

MDGx, on May 17 2007, 07:34 PM, said:

Tweaked Unofficial NVIDIA Display Driver 82.69 for Windows 98/98 SE/ME [14.5 MB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/NV8269.EXE

Installed it. There was an error message thrown up (should have made a note of it) but the installer carried on regardless. Machine performance seems to have improved some and the refresh setting has suddenly changed from 60Hz - the minimum - to the maximum of 100Hz. Is this down to the new display driver?

The install error is now corrected. Please download the driver again [14.5 MB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/NV8269.EXE

Installed it but this time I made a note of the error message, it said

Quote

Setup was unable to write ...
(NV30.AddReg)\
The installation will be terminated

After the next reboot I got a message implicating kernel32. Another thing I have noticed is that the nVidia desktop manager no longer appears in the systray?

This post has been edited by plonkeroo: 21 May 2007 - 06:42 PM