[quote name='98-Guy' post='787976' date='Aug 12 2008, 08:34 AM'][quote name='ALincoln' post='787871' date='Aug 11 2008, 10:07 PM']Based on this thread I bought an Asrock ALivedual-esata2 motherboard, built a new system with it and managed to get Windows 98 SE to work on it. This motherboard is not available in the US, I ordered mine from ...[/quote]
Why did you choose that board, and not the Intel-based Asrock Dual or 4-core VSTA boards?
Since you can't find a driver for the on-board SATA-2 or ethernet controllers, why did you choose that motherboard? Are you that fixated on AMD that you sacrificed some win-98 hardware compabitlity?
And by the way, compatibility mode is low-performance, and it means your SATA-to-IDE mapping at the bios level is not working, otherwise Win-98 would be using 32-bit access through the EDSI_506.PDR driver.
I like AMD because they offer a good price to performance ratio. Also I don't like the idea of Intel becoming a monopoly. Also this motherboard isn't for Win98 only, it's for Linux and W2K as well. I wanted one with a good upgrade path that works under all OSes.
The NIC isn't necessarily hopeless, the NVIDIA motherboard drivers seem to include one for 98 and there is a Realtek driver for 98SE here:http://www.realtek.c...p;GetDown=false
I'm thinking I haven't tried absolutely everything to get the NIC to work. As far as SATA-2 (and MS-DOS compatibility mode) I was under the impression that MS-DOS compatibilty mode uses the BIOS to access the HDD. Slower, but at least 98SE works. I haven't ever seen any version of Windows boot in under 1 minute anyway, so it's still pretty fast.
[quote name='98-Guy' post='787976' date='Aug 12 2008, 08:34 AM'][quote name='ALincoln' post='787871' date='Aug 11 2008, 10:07 PM']SB Audigy 4 Pro (Does not work with Win 98, except with KX Project
drivers, see below)[/quote]
Based on what you wrote further down, I'm not sure if you're saying that the Creative drivers don't support win-98 at all, or that they do but the ktproject drivers work better.[/quote]
The Creative drivers for the Audigy 4 Pro are 2000/XP only. The ones for the Live! 5.1 support 98 (and even 95 I believe...). The KX Project drivers work with both cards under 98SE, but there is no emulation for DOS games/programs using the KX Project drivers. Therefore when using the KX Project drivers you won't have any sound in DOS games/programs. If you don't game, or use any DOS programs that use the sound card, the KX Project drivers are supposedly better than the Creative ones. (The KX Project drivers don't support EAX for instance... but they do support ASIO which the Creative drivers don't)
[quote name='98-Guy' post='787976' date='Aug 12 2008, 08:34 AM'][quote name='ALincoln' post='787871' date='Aug 11 2008, 10:07 PM']To get Windows 98 SE to install on a SATA HDD I had to set my BIOS to RAID mode, or else after the 2nd reboot of the install the CD/DVD drives would become invisible, and 98 SE would not be able to copy files from them.[/quote]
Is your optical drive also SATA? That could be why win-98 wouldn't see it as you describe.[/quote]
My optical drives are both IDE. I don't have any SATA optical drives. The problem seems to happen when you have a SATA HDD and IDE optical drives, in this case when setup tries to initialize the protected-mode IDE driver after the 2nd reboot it will hang for about 5 minutes, then come up with a BSoD that says basically "You have some devices using 16-bit drivers and some using 32-bit, this setup is not allowed, so your Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller has been disabled." Then the drives are invisible. To get around this problem you need to set your BIOS to RAID mode. (This causes the PCI RAID Controller device to appear. If I copy all the files on the 98SE CD to my HDD and set the BIOS to IDE mode, then install, this device will not appear, but neither will my optical drives).
[quote name='98-Guy' post='787976' date='Aug 12 2008, 08:34 AM'][quote name='ALincoln' post='787871' date='Aug 11 2008, 10:07 PM']Even the fixed Windows 98 SE fdisk
does not support HDD larger than 137GB.[/quote]
I've used fdisk to partition 160, 250 and 500 gb SATA hard drives, so I don't know what you're talking about here.[/quote]
If you try to use 100% for your partition size using the fixed 98SE fdisk (there is a display bug that prevents you from entering the partition size in MB) it will create a partition that is only 137GB/128GiB in size, at least based on my experience. I usually use Linux to partition my drives so maybe there's a way to create partitions larger than the 137GB limit using 98SE fdisk, but I haven't found one.
[quote name='98-Guy' post='787976' date='Aug 12 2008, 08:34 AM'][quote name='ALincoln' post='787871' date='Aug 11 2008, 10:07 PM']If you plan to use Windows 2000 (or XP or VISTA) make sure all of your FAT32 partitions are under 32GiB in size. For some reason these OSes do not like FAT32 partitions larger than that.[/quote]
Again, this is wrong. A couple of years ago I installed XP-pro on a 250 gb hard drive formatted 100% as a single FAT-32 partition (with customized 4kb cluster size).
This confusion about 2k or XP not being able to handle FAT-32 partitions larger than 32 gb comes from the fact that 2K/XP will not themselves create a fat-32 partition larger than 32gb. This functionality (or handicap) is by design, because Microsoft wants you to use NTFS and to abandon fat-32 (for one convoluted reason or another). So many people think it means that you can't attach a pre-formatted fat-32 volume larger than 32 gb to a 2k/xp system. But you can.[/quote]
If you can use >32GiB FAT32 partitions with 2K/XP I stand corrected. I did come across some information on Google that recommended NOT to use FAT32 partitions larger than 32GiB with 2K/XP, so I decided to keep mine under 32GiB just to be safe.
[quote name='Rjecina' post='788016' date='Aug 12 2008, 11:53 AM']I do not see point in Nvidia 5X00 GPU. Much better are Nvidia 6x00 and ATI 9x00[/quote]
I had the 5200 in an old system so I decided to pull it and put it in the new one so I didn't have to buy a new video card just to get the system up and running. I plan to do so later. Also I plan to increase RAM to 3GB, hopefully 98 SE will still work with the SYSTEM.INI fixes and HimemX after I increase the RAM.
Edited by ALincoln, 12 August 2008 - 09:32 PM.