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#261 User is offline   xrayer 

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 07:11 PM

>SInce you had a problem with HIMEMX, use HIMEM.

I tried too, used himex for limiting XMS to 512M, I also limided by maxphyspage in system.ini on installed system but no effect.

>DO NOT USE AHCI, it will crash.

Of course, I use IDE mode.

>Go into Safe Mode, remove ALL Drivers, reboot into normal mode and redetect Drivers.

I tried to remove many system drivers that I guessed may cause problem but there was many entries, some doubled and I didn't have much time so I didn't clear it all an unable start in normal mode.

Does setup.exe work on your system too or you installed on other PC/VM ?
It's positive that it runs on some UEFI mobos, maybe it depend on how they take care about compatability module...


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 08:15 PM

View PostMarius, on 11 March 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

Now, the good news!
- There are 2 PCI slots to be used for a VGA and sound card.
- PCI VGA can be set as the active card in BIOS so that two cards (old PCI for Win98 and a new PCI-E card) can be installed in the same computer.


I was also thinking about this 2-VGA solution. I vaguely remember that Win98 should support more than 1 VGA (on just only monitors?)...
Would be possible to use secondary PCI VGA without switching it in BIOS? It would be anoying to go to setup before boot, maybe it could be reconfigured by writting to some chipset/vga PCI registers before win98 will boot...

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 09:23 PM

View Postxrayer, on 12 April 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

>SInce you had a problem with HIMEMX, use HIMEM.

I tried too, used himex for limiting XMS to 512M, I also limided by maxphyspage in system.ini on installed system but no effect.

Unless you limited memory to less than 768MB you need to set MaxFileCache as well.

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>Go into Safe Mode, remove ALL Drivers, reboot into normal mode and redetect Drivers.

I tried to remove many system drivers that I guessed may cause problem but there was many entries, some doubled and I didn't have much time so I didn't clear it all an unable start in normal mode.

I did say ALL.

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Does setup.exe work on your system too or you installed on other PC/VM ?
It's positive that it runs on some UEFI mobos, maybe it depend on how they take care about compatability module...

I cloned the Hard Drive from my MA785 Computer, which is about a year older, ran a Registry Script that stripped all of the Driver Entries except for a few ROOT and Network Entries, and redetected everything. A few of my Programs had to be reworked such as my SMM Hook, 64-Bit RAM API and Multi-Core API. The built in Ethernet had no Driver so I needed to add a PCI Card.

I have had so many problems with SETUP.EXE that I bypassed it years ago. I created a "pre-installed Windows Setup CD" that allows me to setup a new Machine without using Setup and with my Patches already Slip-Streamed in. I don't remember if I ever tried SETUP.EXE on the M5A97.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 03:11 AM

View Postrloew, on 12 April 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

Unless you limited memory to less than 768MB you need to set MaxFileCache as well.

Yes I limited to 64MB...

View Postrloew, on 12 April 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

I cloned the Hard Drive from my MA785 Computer, which is about a year older, ran a Registry Script that stripped all of the Driver Entries except for a few ROOT and Network Entries, and redetected everything.


I moved my installation too instead of clean instal. About 4 or 5 years ago I installed on Asus intel 945/ICH7 then moved to P31/ICH7 and now I was trying to move to B75...
I also moved Windows NT 4.0 - they are portable very well. I used even older install made on intel BX440, installed some drivers and still working. It's probably advantage of limited plug&pray, no ACPI etc... :)

View Postrloew, on 12 April 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

A few of my Programs had to be reworked such as my SMM Hook, 64-Bit RAM API and Multi-Core API. The built in Ethernet had no Driver so I needed to add a PCI Card.


Cool, I saw you made 64bit api and multicore support. I just tried the demo but didn't worked for me (C2D E8500), just display
"No Available Cores"
of course I had installed DEMOCORE.VXD and added in system.ini and rebooted.
I would like to know who want to develop some heavy computation using SMP on windows98 now but it's cool as tech. demonstration of possibilities. AFAIK Japheth or someone else was experimenting with 64b long mode under DOS but nobody used it in some app yet...

View Postrloew, on 12 April 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

I have had so many problems with SETUP.EXE that I bypassed it years ago. I created a "pre-installed Windows Setup CD" that allows me to setup a new Machine without using Setup and with my Patches already Slip-Streamed in. I don't remember if I ever tried SETUP.EXE on the M5A97.


Yes this is good idea. Win98 seems to be portable enough. I'm not sure if there's no problem with changing APM/ACPI HAL (could I call it HAL? You kno similar problem in 2k/XP..) ...I remember I was able to change from APM to ACPI, it redetected and installed devices but power button didn't worked. So making clean install on some generic HW like in som virtual machine and ther distrubute it to target PC and let system redetect all HW. Yes it seems to be only viable way...

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 09:49 AM

View Postxrayer, on 16 April 2013 - 03:11 AM, said:

Cool, I saw you made 64bit api and multicore support. I just tried the demo but didn't worked for me (C2D E8500), just display
"No Available Cores"
of course I had installed DEMOCORE.VXD and added in system.ini and rebooted.
I would like to know who want to develop some heavy computation using SMP on windows98 now but it's cool as tech. demonstration of possibilities. AFAIK Japheth or someone else was experimenting with 64b long mode under DOS but nobody used it in some app yet...

The Demo is obsolete. It only works with older AMD Multi-Core Porcessors. Due to lack of interest, I never updated the Demo.
I have upgraded the full Version to support Intel and newer AMD Processors.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 01:30 PM

@rloew - the NEW Demo only works on NEWER AMD, not (e.g.) AMD X2 (x64) 3800 Dual Core? If so, is there a possibility you would release a non-Demo of it (E521 I would like to use it on)? No $$$ is the reason I ask, otherwise... :(

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 05:14 PM

View Postsubmix8c, on 16 April 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

@rloew - the NEW Demo only works on NEWER AMD, not (e.g.) AMD X2 (x64) 3800 Dual Core? If so, is there a possibility you would release a non-Demo of it (E521 I would like to use it on)? No $$$ is the reason I ask, otherwise... :(

I haven't ported the changes from the Full Version to the Demo so there currently is no New Demo.
If you are interested in buying the API, I can port the changes so you can test it.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 05:18 PM

View Postsubmix8c, on 16 April 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

@rloew - the NEW Demo only works on NEWER AMD, not (e.g.) AMD X2 (x64) 3800 Dual Core? If so, is there a possibility you would release a non-Demo of it (E521 I would like to use it on)? No $$$ is the reason I ask, otherwise... :(

I haven't ported the changes from the Full Version to the Demo, so there is no "New Demo".
If you are interested in buying the API, I will port the changes so you can test it.

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