[petekeller]

@rloew

<You need my SATA Patch to use ESDI_506.PDR with the SATA Controller.>


Yesterday I did a fresh install of Windows 98SE on a MSI 870S-G54 (AM3) using your SATA patch.
Installation was very fast and smooth. However, when I shutdown Windows, it hung and I had to
use the power button to complete. Shutdown,restart,warm restart, and shutdown to DOS all hung.
I knew from previous non-fresh installs that USB2 was causing the problem, so I installed NUSB35.
That fixed the problem and gave me USB2 support. In an earlier post you mentioned WinME modified
drivers. Why are they needed? What can go wrong?

This post has been edited by petekeller: 10 June 2012 - 01:23 PM

[Win98]

I have a HP Pavilion p6000. Is it at all possible to install 98 on this machine? I read about some sata patch but the guy says "You need my sata patch" but never leave a link or tell where to get it.

The specs on my computer are:
Athlon X2 220
8Gb ram
ATI Radeon HD 4200 (I know there arent win 98 drivers for this)

I really wish that computer manufacturers would tell what motherboard it had.. Looked the mobo over but see nothing.


Thanks!

This post has been edited by Win98: 19 May 2012 - 11:24 AM

[rloew]

Win98, on 19 May 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

I have a HP Pavilion p6000. Is it at all possible to install 98 on this machine? I read about some sata patch but the guy says "You need my sata patch" but never leave a link or tell where to get it.

The specs on my computer are:
Athlon X2 220
8Gb ram
ATI Radeon HD 4200 (I know there arent win 98 drivers for this)

I really wish that computer manufacturers would tell what motherboard it had.. Looked the mobo over but see nothing.


Thanks!

The SATA Patch is on my website http://rloew1.no-ip.com

This post has been edited by rloew: 19 May 2012 - 11:13 PM

[go98]

Thanks!
[/quote]
The SATA Patch is on my website http://rloew1.no-ip.com
[/quote]

Haha, it's really good you have solutions for windows 98, but (and remember it's just MY opinion, so no offense) $100 is way too much for unofficial things.
It would make me buy a modern Windows system instead, if I needed that functionality so badly.

[Foxbat]

go98, on 04 June 2012 - 10:28 AM, said:

Haha, it's really good you have solutions for windows 98, but (and remember it's just MY opinion, so no offense) $100 is way too much for unofficial things.
It would make me buy a modern Windows system instead, if I needed that functionality so badly.

That's for rloew's TERABYTE PLUS PACKAGE with the whole nine yards and then some. The listing for the SATA patch by itself is here.

[Laser98IX]

Recently got my hands on a used Aopen XCcube EZ65 "shoebox" computer.
Motherboard ID: 10/15/2003-Springdale-G-6A79AAB9C-00
Motherboard Name UX4SG-1394 (EZ65)
Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
EZ65 R1.1 Oct.15.2003 AOpen Inc.
Besides being able to run Win98SE M/B has integrated CD audio player on BIOS

• hit INS key during BOOT

Did a complete, successful, fresh, and easy install of Win98SE 4.10.2222 A w/o errors.
Then I loaded each of the device drivers in this order:

• Chipset
  
• VGA
  
• Audio
  
• USB
  
• LAN

All drivers from AOpen site loaded fine.

Then installed an AGP add-on card (V7100Pro64)

• All web searches say V7100Pro64 does not support W98SE.
  
• The card is actually nVidia NV11 GeForce2 MX-400.
  
• Found drivers and card works fine.

Max System Bus = 800Mhz (according to manual)
Max FSB Clock = 200Mhz (according to manual)
Max CPU Core Freq = 3200Mhz (according to manual)
Intel Pentium-4 478-pin CPU (Celeron 2.4Ghz installed) - (Faster CPU is possible?)
Intel 865 Chipset + ICH5
2Gb DDR266/333/400 max - 2 slots (1Gb installed)
AGP 8X slot
1 @ PCI slot
3.5" floppy capable (installed)
2 @ PATA (ATA33/66/100)
2 @ SATA
1 @ Integrated SVGA (EZ18 has 2 @ connectors)
PS/2 keyboard & mouse
Parallel printer port (DB25)
Serial port (DB9)
Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit LAN (RJ-45) 10/100/1000
3 @ IEEE 1394 (Firewire) Interface ports (2 Front, 1 Rear)
RCA coax port (EZ18 has S-Video)
S/PDIF (fibre optic TOSLINK connectors) IN (Rear) OUT (Front)
AC'97 Codec & H/W supports 5.1 channel sound output
(includes front & rear stereo + subwoofer capability)

AOpen site still offers drivers:
(in "select a product" box search for "XC Cube" and in "select a Model" box search for "EZ65")

• BIOS
  
• VGA
  
• M/B chipset
  
• 1Gb LAN
  
• audio
  
• USB2.0

Also Quick Installation Guide and complete manual in PDF format.

Will be installing Win98SE-SP3.3 & NUSB3.6 on test hard drive soon.

[TmEE]

Best CPU you can install is P4 Extreme Edition, 3.4GHz but it is extremely expensive considering what it is. I have a 3.2GHz prescott in my machine. Got for like 7usd from ebay. EE goes for 150usd+

[Laser98IX]

Win98, on 19 May 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

I really wish that computer manufacturers would tell what motherboard it had.. Looked the mobo over but see nothing.

Depending upon your BIOS settings, and if the machine starts with a company logo or "flash screen" when you first turn it on, there should be a M/B "signature line" along the bottom of the screen when the BIOS version is being displayed. An example is from my post just above, like this: 10/15/2003-Springdale-G-6A79AAB9C-00.

Use that signature line to do a search for specific M/B information, such as O/S compatibility, driver files, support information, etc. I've even been able to find information for quite a few boards that otherwise would have been very difficult to locate.

TmEE, on 19 July 2012 - 06:51 AM, said:

Best CPU you can install is P4 Extreme Edition, 3.4GHz but it is extremely expensive considering what it is. I have a 3.2GHz prescott in my machine. Got for like 7usd from ebay. EE goes for 150usd+

Thanks, TmEE. I'll start looking around for those CPU's.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Laser98IX, on 17 July 2012 - 06:56 AM, said:

Will be installing Win98SE-SP3.3 & NUSB3.6 on test hard drive soon.

If you install SP 3.3, you don't need to install NUSB 3.6.
All you have to do is follow the USB 2.0 notice which lists the instructions.

[Laser98IX]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 21 July 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

Laser98IX, on 17 July 2012 - 06:56 AM, said:

Will be installing Win98SE-SP3.3 & NUSB3.6 on test hard drive soon.

If you install SP 3.3, you don't need to install NUSB 3.6.
All you have to do is follow the USB 2.0 notice which lists the instructions.

Thank you, PROBLEMCHYLD.

TmEE, on 19 July 2012 - 06:51 AM, said:

Best CPU you can install is P4 Extreme Edition, 3.4GHz but it is extremely expensive considering what it is. I have a 3.2GHz prescott in my machine. Got for like 7usd from ebay. EE goes for 150usd+

I found a P-4 3.4 Ghz, 800 SB, 512 Cache chip (not EE) at a local surplus computer place. I'll install it after I've finished upgrading and testing my O/S to SP3.4.

Thanks again, TmEE.

This post has been edited by Laser98IX: 08 August 2012 - 08:43 PM

[ragnargd]

Hi,

on the HW-Compat-Page we have the P965-chipset. I've seen no such board in this discussion (maybe i overlooked one?).

So, there is this ASRock board P5D-DE, with this P965 chipset, PCI-E only, DDR2, SATA2, etc., which can still be bought. There is no offficial Driver-Support from ASRock for W98SE.

What would i have to expect from such board regarding W98SE? Waste of time/money?

Ragnar G.D.

[schwups]

There's no official driver and xrayer's driver doesn't support intel chipsets G/P/Q965 and ICH8. It's your risk to buy this board. You can check it out and tell us your results.

I looked in the manual of P5B-DE (P5D-DE not found): AMI Bios, Storage Configuration: It's possible to set the compatible mode for legacy OS (4 devices).

This post has been edited by schwups: 12 September 2012 - 05:24 AM

[ragnargd]

schwups, on 12 September 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:

There's no official driver and xrayer's driver doesn't support intel chipsets G/P/Q965 and ICH8. It's your risk to buy this board. You can check it out and tell us your results.

I looked in the manual of P5B-DE (P5D-DE not found): AMI Bios, Storage Configuration: It's possible to set the compatible mode for legacy OS (4 devices).

@schwups: Thanks for your advice - I'd rather spend that money on something else.

P.S.: Still, then, *why* is that chipset mentioned as "supported", if there is no known board listed, anyway? I wonder...

Ragnar G.D.

[ragnargd]

Hi,

ASRock 775i65G R3.0 can now be bought:

http://www.jacob-com...nr-1409466.html

Homepage:

http://www.asrock.co...775i65G%20R3.0/

Unfortunately, no CPU-Compatibility-Entries, though... :-(

Ragnar G.D.

[schwups]

I tried to check Motherboard Gigabyte ga-P35-DQ6 (ICH9 chipset). Unfortunately it died    during testing. It went into an endless recurring restarting loop, like xrayer had experienced with the Gigabyte GA-P43-ES3G (Post 189) - random?. The graphics card was a Nvidia 7900GS and the CPU an Intel Celeron 430. I rewrote xrayers driver (inf files) for ICH10 to ICH 9. Also I wanted to test the original inf files for 2K/XP. I changed the signature "WINDOWS NT" to "CHICAGO". 

What worked until the mobo died:

The Win ME USB 2.0 driver
Graphics card - driver 82.69 with added 7900GS
Lan Realtek 8169 PCI card

What didn't:

-  ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Ports (Device Manager - yellow exclamation marks) and hence LAN onboard Realtek. I'm not sure about the three exclamation marks, where they were. Device status message was something like two PCI.VXD bustypes existing (Code 2). 

- Serial ATA Storage Controllers and Gigabyte SATA2 controller (10 devices).
  Primary and Secondary IDE controller (single fifo) had yellow exclamation marks.
  There isn't an option in BIOS to set compatible (four devices). I set them all to      
  IDE mode.
  The PATA HDD was switched in the DOS compatibility mode, as was expected.

(- Onboard sound set to disabled => no driver)

Before I could restore the registry to get rid of the DOS compatibility mode, the board died.

OS Win ME   

This post has been edited by schwups: 22 November 2012 - 02:33 PM

[buyerninety]

In Post #254, ragnargd said;
"ASRock 775i65G R3.0 can now be bought:"
[german 'newegg' type site referenced] & also said;
"Unfortunately, no CPU-Compatibility-Entries, though..."
Actually, there is cpu support list through here;
http://www.asrock.co...775i65G%20R3.0/
shows R3.0 version has added support for; 'WOLFDALE CPU: Core 2 Duo,
Pentium Dual Core & Celeron Dual Core'.
Core 2 Extreme, QX6800(G0) also added.
Other changes;
such as graphics max shared memory up to 96MB (R2.0 = 64MB),
supporting onboard D-Sub up to 2048x1536@75Hz, AMR port deleted,
LAN spec mentions 'PXE', several added LED indicators (e.g.
LAN 10 or 100), COM port 'connector' (instead of 'header') added,
USB charging (e.g. iPhone) in S1, S4 & S5,
Erp/Eup ready [=low pwr consumption in Off mode],
Possibly better VRM.
In BIOS; (Still PCI/AGP is selectable, but now also)
Internal Graphics Mode ('AUTO'- card{s} present=onboard off,
all card absent=onboard on, or 'ENABLED xxMB' - card ignored=onboard
always selected)->needs confirmation, anybody?,
[some of the Boot Settings Configuration may be missing?? for
HD's and CD/DVD's? unclear.]
No change to any w98 drivers-if something in previous Posts didn't have a
driver previously, it still doesn't now.
.
*Maybe AsRock (or a supplier) had a large amount of ICH5 remaining(?),
alternatively (or additionally);
*The addition of the COM connector suggests to me that some Vendor
of a commercial/industrial nature requested AsRock to reissue such a mobo,
possibly as an alternative to other more expensive? motherboards selling
currently that are intended for the industrial sector that use e.g. ICH7R.
[Ahh, describing those mobos is too much typing for this Post.]
*Is AsRock 775i65G R3.0 attractive for us?... not particularly...
as '98 Guy' [98Guy] notes;
http://www.win98bant...ead.php?t=51931
[Edit; Perhaps 98Guy meant '5.1' instead of '7.1'....and for sure, the driver in
'C-MmediaAC97DrvUDA044Logo_Win98seme2kxp.zip' lists only CM9738,
not 9761a, in its INF files for W95/W98.]

This post has been edited by buyerninety: 01 December 2012 - 04:40 PM

[Zollex]

775i65G support E8400 dual core? What cpu is the best for 775i65g motherboard?

[paoloapaolo]

CPU......the best for 775i65g motherboard?

Qx6800

This post has been edited by paoloapaolo: 08 March 2013 - 08:24 AM

[xrayer]

Hi,
I had a chance to test quite new mobo Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3V (for my colleague's parents) with UEFI for 2 days. CPU is intel Pentium G860 Sandybridge, chipset (PCH) intel B75 and 4GB RAM. It has integrated VGA - intel HD gfx in CPU core with configurable VRAM size (par of system RAM - I allocated 256MB). It has also one LPT, COM and PS/2 port.

I just done some quick tests using my utils to see how well it works under DOS. Logs are here.
You can look at new UEFI SETUP interface. It run in gfx mode and use mouse. http://rayer.g6.cz/1...75M-D3V/SETUP/. There are some legacy settings like SATA IDE mode vs AHCI, emulation of port 60/64 for USB KBD, mouse emulation, loading ROM and UEFI ROM modules from peripherals, setting of LPT mode, address and IRQ. There's no advanced. setting for COM ports. I found the setup has quite poor set of settings compared to my old classic Award BIOS 6.00.

I ran FreeDOS and MSDOS on it without problems. Kbd and mouse emulation works quite well. One issue I observed was that JEMMEX and HIMEMX detected wrong XMS size - only 0,5GB instead of 3,x GB like MS himem.sys from Win98 did. It is caused by some memory holes - non-contiognous area.
Further comments in thread on BTTR forum.

I tried to install Win98SE there just for fun but I was unable to run setup (regarless various options an configuration). So I copied my working copy of W98 but it failed to boot with message about missing c:\windows\system\vmm32.vxd - sure it was there and ending with message you ma turn off PC now. It happened in 1sec. When I enabled F8 tracking and answer no to load all drivers it booted in safe mode. That was all I can did.
This mobo is simply too new for Win9x
I expect it will be similar for different manufactures based on new PCH chipsets intel 5x/6x/7x. So last know working config remains iP/G41+ICH7, maybe ICH9-10...

WinXP works fine there. This machine has Samsung 840 SSD and I was able to install AHCI driver after installation but performance gain is weak:
IDE mode: 400MB/s, CPUI load 10%
AHCI mode: 405MB/s, CPU load 7%
I also tried to integrated iastor.sys into my instllation CD, then I was able to run windows setup in AHCI mode but after last restart (windows install almost complette) it didn't boot - ended in restart loop. So this is reason why I installed in IDE mode and enabled AHCI later. I suspect taht driver was installed but registry entry was not properly set to load iastor.sys _during_ system boot. But I don't know where to change it in install scripts. I was able to install all drivers for chipset, network, intel core VGA, sound... except:
radic jednoduche komunikace pro sbernici PCI
(controller of simple communication for PCI bus)
VID:8086 DID:1E3A sub 1C3A/1458 rev 04
but it's not important for working system.
It runs very fast from SSD, boot time about 12sec.

This post has been edited by xrayer: 11 April 2013 - 09:31 AM

[rloew]

xrayer, on 11 April 2013 - 09:05 AM, said:

I tried to install Win98SE there just for fun but I was unable to run setup (regarless various options an configuration). So I copied my working copy of W98 but it failed to boot with message about missing c:\windows\system\vmm32.vxd - sure it was there and ending with message you ma turn off PC now. It happened in 1sec. When I enabled F8 tracking and answer no to load all drivers it booted in safe mode. That was all I can did.
This mobo is simply too new for Win9x

I have Windows 98 running on an UEFI System. It is an Asus M5A97 with an 8 Core AMD Processor.

SInce you had a problem with HIMEMX, use HIMEM.
DO NOT USE AHCI, it will crash.
Go into Safe Mode, remove ALL Drivers, reboot into normal mode and redetect Drivers.